So if you agree here that Bey is primarily out for herself and only about her coins doesn’t that give some credence to her using BLM and the social climate of that time during LEMONADE. 

7 hours ago, Massive_Teardrop said:

Ppl ignoring the FACT that the Dubai performance (and the fact that this is her first full performance in nearly half a decade) is contradictory to the intentions of the Renaissance album are the fake fans in here

The real ones been knew. 

 

 

50 minutes ago, yonsé said:

I said this yesterday and there were several ppl in here trying to say I was being obtuse but that’s the reality

And its still a shallow, reductive response to anyone who cares. Emphasis on response because you weren't just making a stand alone statement, you were specifically responding to those who were critical of her and referred to them as "jokes"

"Melanie C pulls out of Poland NYE gig in solidarity with 'communities I support"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64101556

"lorde cancels concert scheduled for Rel Aviv"
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/music/lorde-cancels-israel-concert-after-boycott-movement-weighs-n832571

Trying to reduce the dynamics of the world by just telling everyone celebrities don't care or share your politics does not move the needle. Many artists build their brand by projecting such values through their music and their personas. They put their own money into supporting communities and movements. It's absolutely fair to hold them to it, and to judge them against the values that you as in individual respect. Sometimes they nudge & learn from it.

When Rihanna was getting dragged for featuring Johnny Depp, do you think it would make sense to go around deflecting all criticism with the same tired point of "She's not a politician"? Or would you just accept that criticism is valid and her job really doesn't have anything to do with the discussion? And I don't even care about Dubai but the logic of that deflection tactic is not strong.

Edited December 27, 20223 yr by Otter

55 minutes ago, yonsé said:

I said this yesterday and there were several ppl in here trying to say I was being obtuse but that’s the reality

Some of them are still struggling to accept it. 
 

They think it’s bootlicking or ass kissing to acknowledge that if the Dubai performance is true, she don’t give a damn. 
 

like what we supposed to do? Beat her ass to hold her accountable 

 

If the Tiffany’s blood diamonds discourse didn’t phase her , this won’t

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Island Goddess said:

Some of them are still struggling to accept it. 
 

They think it’s bootlicking or ass kissing to acknowledge that if the Dubai performance is true, she don’t give a damn. 
 

like what we supposed to do? Beat her ass to hold her accountable 

 

If the Tiffany’s blood diamonds discourse didn’t phase her , this won’t

HOW did I forget the Tiffany blood diamonds

 

if that didn’t let y’all know, idk what would

25 minutes ago, Otter said:

And its still a shallow, reductive response to anyone who cares. Emphasis on response because you weren't just making a stand alone statement, you were specifically responding to those who were critical of her and referred to them as "jokes"

"Melanie C pulls out of Poland NYE gig in solidarity with 'communities I support"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64101556

"lorde cancels concert scheduled for Rel Aviv"
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/music/lorde-cancels-israel-concert-after-boycott-movement-weighs-n832571

Trying to reduce the dynamics of the world by just telling everyone celebrities don't care or share your politics does not move the needle. Many artists build their brand by projecting such values through their music and their personas. They put their own money into supporting communities and movements. It's absolutely fair to hold them to it, and to judge them against the values that you as in individual respect. Sometimes they nudge & learn from it.

When Rihanna was getting dragged for featuring Johnny Depp, do you think it would make sense to go around deflecting all criticism with the same tired point of "She's not a politician"? Or would you just accept that criticism is valid and her job really doesn't have anything to do with the discussion? And I don't even care about Dubai but the logic of that deflection tactic is not strong.

And the meltdowns continue 

 

no one cares sweetie. I think we’ve made that clear.

 

and somehow you can’t stop namecalling me when I didn’t even mention you. A hit dog will holler though.

 

going on my mute list 

Edited December 27, 20223 yr by yonsé

Had there been something else this era, we'd have more to share, to discuss, to debate, to opine, to experience together. But since there's nothing to talk about beside an album we all listened to and agree is exceptional, inevitably complaints will rise from the VOID that is this era. Now let's nod, smile, and rank her singles run from 2003-04 and make fake album tracklists I guess since that will mean we're Going Clear in Beyoncetology and must have tighter holes, harder ****s, clearer skin, and masters degrees!

6 minutes ago, Island Goddess said:

Some of them are still struggling to accept it. 
 

They think it’s bootlicking or ass kissing to acknowledge that if the Dubai performance is true, she don’t give a damn. 
 

like what we supposed to do? Beat her ass to hold her accountable 

 

If the Tiffany’s blood diamonds discourse didn’t phase her , this won’t

 

 

 

Like they keep going in circles. 
 

the bttm____ is the PRIVATE event is STILL happening and there’s nothing they can do about it. 

"reductive" is not name calling 

lmao who gives a **** honestly

 

the forced outrage over some performance

 

the way y'all would gladly take $24m to perform anywhere and anything. it's really not that serious

19 minutes ago, G'Day said:

 

I guess some people are willing to die on any hill as long as it means their fave remains wealthy and unbothered.

we…don’t…care….

 

it’s not defending Beyoncé by acknowledging that she cares about money and we don’t care about that. LOL

2 minutes ago, yonsé said:

HOW did I forget the Tiffany blood diamonds

 

if that didn’t let y’all know, idk what would

She’s been shown her ethos!

 

Some of the hive & GP was talking about the discrepancy about blood diamonds after BIK & rightfully so imo. 
 

Once the Tiffany’s ad came out and they heard her version of moon river every one moved on. 
 

 

2 minutes ago, OnMyCoolJ said:

Like they keep going in circles. 
 

the bttm____ is the PRIVATE event is STILL happening and there’s nothing they can do about it. 

The way some of you don't read. I do not care about the Dubai concert. I do not even agree with the politics that you shouldn't perform in nations with questionable laws (although there are lines I draw)... I do however respect the stance of those who do care

Edited December 27, 20223 yr by Otter

1 hour ago, MrPiggyMoka said:

Oh wow you guys are still having meltdowns over Dubai??

 

Some of you really need some fresh air.

 

Its hilarious. 
 

 

2 minutes ago, Otter said:

"reductive" is not name calling 

Calling me shallow though is…don’t cherry pick honey

Just now, yonsé said:

we…don’t…care….

 

it’s not defending Beyoncé by acknowledging that she cares about money and we don’t care about that. LOL

this exactly

 

like I'm not defending her..... I guess I see how it could be kinda ****** up but in reality it's not doing any real damage and the people who care are just about morals and the desire of being the wokest of them all

 

I really don't care what she does it's her bag and her business

 

she's been giving us performances after performances for 20+ years

 

she'll eventually perform this album like relax lol

2 minutes ago, Island Goddess said:

She’s been shown her ethos!

 

Some of the hive & GP was talking about the discrepancy about blood diamonds after BIK & rightfully so imo. 
 

Once the Tiffany’s ad came out and they heard her version of moon river every one moved on. 

So true.

 

self righteous hive is so fake lol

Just now, yonsé said:

Calling me shallow though is…don’t cherry pick honey

The take is shallow. It's not personal.

3 minutes ago, yonsé said:

we…don’t…care….

 

it’s not defending Beyoncé by acknowledging that she cares about money and we don’t care about that. LOL

 The faux hive pretending to be the morality police in here 
 

 

8 minutes ago, OnMyCoolJ said:

Like they keep going in circles. 
 

the bttm____ is the PRIVATE event is STILL happening and there’s nothing they can do about it. 

It’s just hilarious to me

 

You say stop stanning and worshipping celebrities morally , Beyoncé included and it’s akin to bootlicking/ass kissing
 

 

 

Edited December 27, 20223 yr by Island Goddess

Just now, Island Goddess said:

It’s just hilarious to me

 

You say stop stanning and worshipping celebrities, Beyoncé included and it’s akin to bootlicking/ass kissing
 

 

 

Right go stream Mel C & Lorde. 
 

in here acting like bey is having a private audience with Putin at the Kremlin 

3 minutes ago, Island Goddess said:

It’s just hilarious to me

 

You say stop stanning and worshipping celebrities, Beyoncé included and it’s akin to bootlicking/ass kissing
 

Why do you need to worship someone to be critical of them?

The irony is the side claiming indifference, must keep downplaying other peoples feelings. If you were truly indifferent, you wouldn't feel the need to double down. That in essense is the bootlicking 

Edited December 27, 20223 yr by Otter

3 minutes ago, yonsé said:

So true.

 

self righteous hive is so fake lol

I don’t even think it’s self righteousness tbh

 

They just really want content & engagement 

 

Because once she posts pics at Dubai all will be forgotten just like the India wedding performance. 
 

 

2 minutes ago, OnMyCoolJ said:

Right go stream Mel C & Lorde. 
 

in here acting like bey is having a private audience with Putin at the Kremlin 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Island Goddess said:

I don’t even think it’s self righteousness tbh

 

They just really want content & engagement 

 

Because once she posts pics at Dubai all will be forgotten just like the India wedding performance. 
 

 

right we see right through them like they bathing in the windex. Or whatever the young prophet Mariah said on obsessed. 

Edited December 27, 20223 yr by OnMyCoolJ
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