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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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Now we have lurkers in here lord we need to clean this house up:redface: someone post their top 5 songs STAT

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1 minute ago, giRLbye. said:

You don't know what she needs...she obviously said yes for a reason. Nothing is unethical about it any more than her performing in the USA. This is for the grand opening of a hotel resort....not the president of Dubai. It's not closeminded...its logical.

It doesn’t matter if bey was performing on the moon. They would stil be butthurt and weeping. The location is just collateral :skull:

Just now, giRLbye. said:

You don't know what she needs...she obviously said yes for a reason. Nothing is unethical about it any more than her performing in the USA. This is for the grand opening of a hotel resort....not the president of Dubai. It's not closeminded...its logical.

Nobody NEEDS $24 MILLION like sis :clown:. Yes it’s more unethical, at least the U.S. pretends to have some rights and we just recently codified federal protection for marriage equality :bird:. She was also born in the U.S. and lives here, performing in the country makes sense. Going across the world to perform at a hotel resort in a homophobic country is not logical it’s gross :supaspaz:

5 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Bey at the opening of her GLAAD Awards performance next summer as "please mother fuckers ain't stopping me" intro blasts behind her

 

 

See this is what I mean I'm bellowing at my desk rn

7 minutes ago, XXX. said:

First of all, I didn’t say these issues were identical. But are you denying that capitalism and commercialism is still at the root of Beyoncé being in a position to land a $24 million payday?  That was my point.  And much like this argument, there are a myriad of issues you can unpack that directly impact the conditions of human life.  Especially at the farming & labor level.

 

Of course we can survive in a capitalistic state.  But it doesn’t make it any less ethical.  
 

Next. 

Your bottom line argument doesn't mean anything, it's just hot air. Capitalism cannot determine the full implications of any meaningful topic. Someone can be promoting a healthy protein shake and someone else a dangerous weightloss pill... both actions can be driven by capitalism, but they're ultimately separate actions with different ethical weight behind them. You can support one but be critical of the other.

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1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

Nobody NEEDS $24 MILLION like sis :clown:. Yes it’s more unethical, at least the U.S. pretends to have some rights and we just recently codified federal protection for marriage equality :bird:. She was also born in the U.S. and lives here, performing in the country makes sense. Going across the world to perform at a hotel resort in a homophobic country is not logical it’s gross :supaspaz:

 

Unstan and go away then

 

tf you want us or Beyonce to tell you? lol

Just now, SashaDevachelli said:

Now we have lurkers in here lord we need to clean this house up:redface: someone post their top 5 songs STAT

1. Daddy

2. World Wide Woman

3. Love Drought

4. Still In Love (Kissing You)

5. IIWAB (Brittany Jean Carlson version)

1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

Nobody NEEDS $24 MILLION like sis :clown:. Yes it’s more unethical, at least the U.S. pretends to have some rights and we just recently codified federal protection for marriage equality :bird:. She was also born in the U.S. and lives here, performing in the country makes sense. Going across the world to perform at a hotel resort in a homophobic country is not logical it’s gross :supaspaz:

Speak for yourself. 
 

im def not turning down a 24 mill check. 
 

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1 minute ago, XXX. said:

You also don’t remember me name calling and attacking differences of opinion. 
 

What I said still stands.  There is a huge issue with children and women being overworked, sexually assaulted, and abused under poor working conditions to mass produce in the fashion industry. But you likely have never had any issue with Beyoncé or any other pop star on the cover of VOGUE.

 

You cannot call people bootlickers when it suits your agenda.  You are just as complicit. 

You say that as if I'm name calling you in that post. Or are you just choosing to victimise yourself for another reason? Your point does not stand, because it's absolutely ridiculous to be expecting people to be fighting for all causes simultaneously, otherwise their activism is irrelevant.

 

I don't know much about the poor working conditions of the fashion industry, but would love to be educated on that at a time that isn't explicitly being used to distract from another conversation. But nobody has attempted to do that when VOGUE threads appear. If I was purposefully ignoring that when those conversations are arising, then absolutely call me out for complicity and bootlicking, but right now you're using a "whataboutism" argument because you're unhappy that I'm holding Beyoncé accountable for this poor decision.

 

1 minute ago, OnMyCoolJ said:

You have no points. You’re the ultimate bootlicker and the biggest hypocrite in here. 
 

you came back to weep once you saw nobody was going to ride your miserable little wave with you. 

:toofunny3: And who exactly am I bootlicking, sis? Aren't you the one crying that she's not a politician, whilst she's made a career off her political views? Meanwhile I've had support from several members in this thread, both publicly and privately. Meanwhile you're getting dragged as one of the most obnoxious users in the Basé. :)

Just now, OnMyCoolJ said:

Speak for yourself. 
 

im def not turning down a 24 mill check. 
 

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You're never going to be confronted with this particular moral dilemma so you'll be fine.

Just now, ShouldersSideways said:

Not me just realizing IIWAB was written by someone named Brittany Jean :rip: 

:rip:

 

What ever happened to BC Jean

Just now, ShouldersSideways said:

Not me just realizing IIWAB was written by someone named Brittany Jean :rip: 

Yes, Beyonce stole it from her :camping:

Just now, SashaDevachelli said:

Now we have lurkers in here lord we need to clean this house up:redface: someone post their top 5 songs STAT

VIRGO'S GROOVE is that girl. SOTY. Song of the Decade, actually. Maybe even Song of the Millennium.

 

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1 minute ago, giRLbye. said:

 

Unstan and go away then

 

tf you want us or Beyonce to tell you? lol

Why would I unstan? I don’t like her decision and I’m voicing my opinion. When your mom does your laundry incorrectly do you move out of the basement? 
 

Ideally she would see the backlash and reconsider worst case scenario nothing happens but at least I stood up and didn’t let my morals crumble like you :clown:

4 minutes ago, XXX. said:

You also don’t remember me name calling and attacking differences of opinion. 
 

What I said still stands.  There is a huge issue with children and women being overworked, sexually assaulted, and abused under poor working conditions to mass produce in the fashion industry. But you likely have never had any issue with Beyoncé or any other pop star on the cover of VOGUE.

 

You cannot call people bootlickers when it suits your agenda.  You are just as complicit. 
 

 

And im screaming at the other one with the Tiffanys music video gif trying to serve moral high ground :rofl:

 

like I said. Unserious. 

2 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

You're never going to be confronted with this particular moral dilemma so you'll be fine.

:ahh:

I feel like some of you have been waiting for a reason to pounce on each other. The way some of these attacks on people’s character are being hurled left and right:deadbanana4:

 

GET IT TOGETHER HIVE!!:weeps:

1 minute ago, ShouldersSideways said:

You're never going to be confronted with this particular moral dilemma so you'll be fine.

 

 Neither will most of the critics so its easy to keep up with the virtue signaling

3 minutes ago, OnMyCoolJ said:

Speak for yourself. 
 

im def not turning down a 24 mill check. 
 

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What skills do you possess to earn $24 million?

 

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2 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

 

 

:toofunny3: And who exactly am I bootlicking, sis? 

Plenty of people on here have pointed out that by your own flawed definition of bootlicking. You’ve been the bey bootlicking blueprint on here over the years. A bootlick pioneer if you will. :alexz2:

I grew into Energy and Move, that's 15/16 songs I love. Church Girl however I can absolutely do without. :nicole:

2 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

Why would I unstan? I don’t like her decision and I’m voicing my opinion. When your mom does your laundry incorrectly do you move out of the basement? 
 

Ideally she would see the backlash and reconsider worst case scenario nothing happens but at least I stood up and didn’t let my morals crumble like you :clown:

 

Beyonce is going to over to perform...not get pissed & shitted on like your mom would

 

this has nothing to do with morals

8 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

 

Her vo-

 

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I'm crying at this because didn't Rihanna date like a Saudi Arabian prince or whatever :dies: that would be a somewhat relevant drag too in this scenario

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