Brick walls. Very much brick wall behavior going on in here

3 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

The funny thing is, things do change when people vocalise their unhappiness against wrongdoings. But instead you're choosing to bootlick and never call her out on any poor choices, because "hey, she's a billionaire so who cares about her morals!!!11". Not to mention telling us we should unstan someone we've loved for decades because we're unhappy with a decision she's made.

 

You (and several others) have really shown your true colours in this situation and it's really sad to see a fan base that I so loved being a part of, because we stand up for minorities and praise our fave for doing the same, become just as toxic as the others.

You better keep hope alive. You and you’re lil handful digital army are really about to burn your survivor video camo bra’s and start a revolution. 
 

Act II: viva la resistance 

So can we agree now that @OnMyCoolJis the most annoying Hive member and not me? I feel these past few pages prove a point

 

37 minutes ago, XXX. said:

This argument is much like the never ending capitalism debate.  In theory, being a billionaire is unethical, or supporting multi billion corporations that mass produce items due to supply chains, under paid workers, warehouse conditions, etc.  

 

Yet we still go out and spend our money on these items that uphold these very institutions we say are unethical.  Like the irony of making posts or tweeting critique on iPhones that someone somewhere probably helped create in a 18 hour work day for 2 cents an hour or something.  

 

Beyoncé performing in Dubai for an hour, flying private and what that does to the environment, mass producing Adidas clothing (we can unpack this for days), being a billionaire, etc.  They’re all things you can pick apart and find ethical issue with.

 

If her ethics upset you over Dubai, it might be time to step back and consider moving on from celebrity worship & commercialism altogether, because this is what it entails.  And we’re all complicit in it.   And that’s the truth.  Truth hurts.

This is truly the worst take we've seen on the topic. 

Essentially no one have an opinion on anything because you're all part of the system. I weep 

until the laws change or God floods out the earth again...there's nothing we can do about capitalism. period. it's the way of the world. Beyonce suddenly taking a vow of poverty & moving from her mansion into the hood is not going to put a dent in it. Most people don't really care about capitalism itself more than them not being a recipient of it. many people complaining don't even spare any change for their local homeless but wagging their finger at others making a living.

2 minutes ago, bijonse said:

Beyoncé doesn’t truly have any boots to lick and I think that’s what other people have been getting at. She is not a politician and she’s not getting involved in the affairs of the UAE. Shes a singer entertainer and businesswoman. Some rich (and probably gay) ppl over there are paying her to do a performance. And it’s a LOT of money in an era where music recordings themselves are not making that much money. Pop musicians are about making money from their music and **** like this lady talks about how rich she is and stuff in her music and has been doing so for like 20 years soooooo 

Nobody is saying she needs to be standing up and fighting for LGBTQ+ rights in the country. We're saying it's hypocritical that she's going to a country where homosexuality is criminalised, to perform for the wealthy elite, whilst in the middle of an era dedicated to the LGBTQ+ community.

 

It's absolutely trash behaviour and saying "get your money BEYONCEEEE" and "she's not a politician, she can do what she wants" are trash takes. Not to mention the straight up gaslighting of those of us who are unhappy that she's made this choice.

 

Beyoncé has made a career about making political choices, fighting for racial and gender equality and this fan base have been loud in their support for her of that. But now suddenly we shouldn't be calling her out for this hypocrisy because she's "not a politician"?

2 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

So can we agree now that @OnMyCoolJis the most annoying Hive member and not me? I feel these past few pages prove a point

 

Screaming at you mainly staying out of it and rehabbing your image

 

 

2 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

until the laws change or God floods out the earth again...there's nothing we can do about capitalism. period. it's the way of the world. Beyonce suddenly taking a vow of poverty & moving from her mansion into the hood is not going to put a dent in it. Most people don't really care about capitalism itself more than them not being a recipient of it. many people complaining don't even spare any change for their local homeless but wagging their finger at others making a living.

I live a pretty fortunate life as I imagine some others in here do and try to do what I can, but none of us wield the cultural capital or influence she does by a wide, wide margin. 

 

I think a lot of the criticism of her is overinflated on social media for the engagement, but she and Jay do make morally questionable moves sometimes. As do all celebrities and people in general; it's just that of course people more invested in Bey like her fanbase are going to have a stronger opinion on what she does, one way or another.

1 minute ago, Otter said:

This is truly the worst take we've seen on the topic. 

Essentially no one have an opinion on anything because you're all part of the system. I weep 

Oh well!  You disagree.  
 

The difference is I’m not denying being a part of a system that even puts a billionaire pop star in a position to land a $24 million paycheck at a private event, in the first place.  
 

 

4 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

So can we agree now that @OnMyCoolJis the most annoying Hive member and not me? I feel these past few pages prove a point

 

Damn you got dethroned huh? 
 

bow before me. 
 

Just now, XXX. said:

Oh well!  You disagree.  
 

The difference is I’m not denying being a part of a system that even puts a billionaire pop star in a position to land a $24 million paycheck at a private event, in the first place.  
 

 

They are so b*tthurt at their hypocrisy being put on full display 

3 minutes ago, OnMyCoolJ said:

Damn you got dethroned huh? 
 

bow before me. 
 

Im lowkey jealous. I might have to consider another round of complaining.

 

1 hour ago, G'Day said:

I’m having conversations in the Beyoncé base about an upcoming concert that Beyoncé is having. 
 

You’re in the Beyoncé base talking about how you don’t care about something that Beyoncé is doing and getting angry at people who are discussing the only piece of news we have to discuss.

You’re whining about the concert because she has been under the radar during the era. We are fine listening to act i and waiting for the visuals. It’s y’all who feel the need to complain that she’s “starving” you like she owes you something for being a fan. Get over it girl 

2 minutes ago, OnMyCoolJ said:

They are so b*tthurt at their hypocrisy being put on full display 

The irony is, you guys are the ones being hypocrites and you're so blinded by your obsession that you can't even see it. Bootlicking at its finest.

2 minutes ago, OnMyCoolJ said:

They are so b*tthurt at their hypocrisy being put on full display 

I just feel like if we’re going to call a spade a spade on human rights and ethics, then let’s do it across the board and not stop and start with LGBTQ.  And after we’re done, let’s see what’s left.

Me after arguing with strangers on a pop music forum and getting called a miserable communist all day

 

 

We're gonna get locked

2 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Screaming at you mainly staying out of it and rehabbing your image

 

 

I live a pretty fortunate life as I imagine some others in here do and try to do what I can, but none of us wield the cultural capital or influence she does by a wide, wide margin. 

 

I think a lot of the criticism of her is overinflated on social media for the engagement, but she and Jay do make morally questionable moves sometimes. As do all celebrities and people in general; it's just that of course people more invested in Bey like her fanbase are going to have a stronger opinion on what she does, one way or another.

 

she's not Mother Teresa and never proclaimed to be...she's a singer & dancer. when push comes to shove...the best interests of herself & her family are always going to come first before any agenda for women, black community, and gay people. AS THEY SHOULD. if Beyonce is overhyped in any area...its her influence. some stuff is beyond her & that includes things like capitalism, homophobia, racism, housing crisis, etc. 

55 minutes ago, XXX. said:

This argument is much like the never ending capitalism debate.  In theory, being a billionaire is unethical, or supporting multi billion corporations that mass produce items due to supply chains, under paid workers, warehouse conditions, etc.  

 

Yet we still go out and spend our money on these items that uphold these very institutions we say are unethical.  Like the irony of making posts or tweeting critique on iPhones that someone somewhere probably helped create in a 18 hour work day for 2 cents an hour or something.  

 

Beyoncé performing in Dubai for an hour, flying private and what that does to the environment, mass producing Adidas clothing (we can unpack this for days), being a billionaire, etc.  They’re all things you can pick apart and find ethical issue with.

 

If her ethics upset you over Dubai, it might be time to step back and consider moving on from celebrity worship & commercialism altogether, because this is what it entails.  And we’re all complicit in it.   And that’s the truth.  Truth hurts.

VERY well said

1 minute ago, MrLovett said:

The irony is, you guys are the ones being hypocrites and you're so blinded by your obsession that you can't even see it. Bootlicking at its finest.

Forget about the boots and get off beys t*t, How ‘bout that? 
 

focus on your own contributions to society miss mother Theresa. 

Also, theres somewhat a slight sense of sensation I feel dragging Bey for her life and making sure her legacy falls apart. Its the idea that people like her feel like they are untouchable in their position and when they truly fall, they eat the most delicious humble-pie. It would indeed make me laugh. Let me get my crystals ready for my 2023 wishes

 

Woah..

 

@*-ChriZ-* keeping out of it

@ShouldersSideways finally engaging in the silliness

@MrLovett Serving ethical king, I love it...

 

@giRLbye. serving girlbye

This place is truly in shambles omg

Just now, Lose My Breath said:

Woah..

 

@*-ChriZ-* keeping out of it

@ShouldersSideways finally engaging in the silliness

@MrLovett Serving ethical king, I love it...

 

@giRLbye. serving girlbye

i'm off work two weeks for the holidays and don't have anything to do for a couple days, so might as well dive on in

 

can y'all shut the **** up 

Just now, ShouldersSideways said:

i'm off work two weeks for the holidays and don't have anything to do for a couple days, so might as well dive on in

 

You've been Switzerland for months, nice to see you speaking your mind!