2 hours ago, Slayn said:

And will all that matter in 5, 10, 20, 50 years? Absolutely not. What will matter is how people remember her, and right now that's looking like talentless hack who got a cult to buy her **** music 73837393 times over! Bad week for you huh, TaylorsSquad—

the GP does not gaf, nobody in 2060 is going to be saying "b-b-but the variants!!!!!" unless this godforsaken site still exists

12 minutes ago, TaylorsSquad said:

This is how I know you're an OTH who pretends to be a fan. Imagine summing up Taylor's entire career to just FolkMore as if Red, Fearless, Speak Now, and TTPD won't be remembered.

My post was not to discredit her, but you have to be delusional to think people see Taylor Swift as one of the greatest artists of all time

Folklore and Evermore were the only time she received universal and unquestionable praise from everyone

That is something Beyonce who sells a lot less receives in every single album cycle, and other artists do it as often too.

Commercial success doesn't equal to greatness.

This isn't backlash. Taylor makes bad music. And has been making terrible music for 10 years, right after reputation. So now this has become what she's known for.

She's still successful regardless, but now she's the nickleback and the new Ed Sheeran of the industry.

She'll still remain successful and get #1's in predominately Caucasian areas and in the U.S.

Just now, Trent W said:

My post was not to discredit her, but you have to be delusional to think people see Taylor Swift as one of the greatest artists of all time

Folklore and Evermore were the only time she received universal and unquestionable praise from everyone

That is something Beyonce who sells a lot less receives in every single album cycle, and other artists do it as often too.

Commercial success doesn't equal to greatness.

Madonna and Pedo Jackson didn't receive "universal unquestionable" praise every Album bffr. By your own logic Madonna's discography won't stand the test of time aside from Ray of Light.

She released bad music, AGAIN. The negative press was too be expected. The world keeps spinning, and she can bounce back.

Yes, and it's overdue.

She's been making mediocre music since Midnights and critics were too soft on her. With Encore they finally said ENOUGH

Her discography needed this treatment ages ago.
Better late than never...

7 minutes ago, TaylorsSquad said:

Madonna and Pedo Jackson didn't receive "universal unquestionable" praise every Album bffr. By your own logic Madonna's discography won't stand the test of time aside from Ray of Light.

They both have at least 4-5 GOAT albums

I'm not gonna argue with a swiftie this because you people live in another world

The fact that you think her discography is on par with them is already absolutely insane

Edited Tuesday at 10:18 PM1 day by Trent W

Just now, Trent W said:

They both have at least 4-5 GOAT albums

I'm not gonna argue with a swiftie this because you people live in another world

The fact that you think het discography is on par with them is already absolutely insane

So now you're moving goal posts because you know they don't have actual acclaim and think calling their albums the GOAT without naming them says all I need to know. If Taylor's only remembered for Folklore/Evermore like you claimed when Fearless, Speak Now, Red and arguably TTPD will be remembered just as much as those two Albums it's safe to say Madonna's only Album where she was loved unquestionably was Ray of Light.

7 minutes ago, TaylorsSquad said:

Madonna and Pedo Jackson didn't receive "universal unquestionable" praise every Album bffr. By your own logic Madonna's discography won't stand the test of time aside from Ray of Light.

I'm sorry, but are you 12 years old?

Madonna's discography obviously has its duds, but pretending her entire legacy rests on Ray of Ligh because every album wasn't universally acclaimed is just historically illiterate. Her discography is iconic, hugely influential, and full of albums and songs that have shaped pop music for decades.

At this point, music history schools need to be opened for Swifties. The chart success of their fave has really deluded some of y'all into thinking commercial performance = unquestionable musical legacy. It's getting embarrassing.

1 minute ago, Patient Zero said:

I'm sorry, but are you 12 years old?

Madonna's discography obviously has its duds, but pretending her entire legacy rests on Ray of Ligh because every album wasn't universally acclaimed is just historically illiterate. Her discography is iconic, hugely influential, and full of albums and songs that have shaped pop music for decades.

At this point, music history schools need to be opened for Swifties. The chart success of their fave has really deluded some of y'all into thinking commercial performance = unquestionable musical legacy. It's getting embarrassing.

It's no different from pretending Taylor's entire discography can be summed up by Folklore or Evermore. You can't have a nuanced conversation and I don't know why an OTH would quote me without adding anything to engage in the context.

Edited Tuesday at 10:24 PM1 day by TaylorsSquad

You know what they say,better sooner than later

2 hours ago, TaylorsSquad said:

Taylor sold 4 million units in a week and is sending a deluxe re-release single to number 1, her career is fine regardless of the EPs critical reception or Twitter/ATRLs echo chamber. She's going to debut at #1 again and launch the lead single of TS13 to #1.

You can all the excuses you want but deep down you know she's a power hungry woman and money isn't enough for her at this point. The critics are definitely getting her lmao...

Look at her crying for reputation not being nominated and buying an award at the VMA, you know she's punching a wall and begging for good songwriters as we speak to block another woman from getting the next #1

She released 4 songs that some people don't like. Negative feedback is understandable, but I don't understand why it warrants this still ongoing movement against her because of this. However, it reaffirms her status in the music industry. I don't remember the last time some deluxe songs have caused this much discourse. For an artist, this in itself is an achievement.

Yes

Also, it clearly matters to her! The pick-me Queen in constant need of attention, sales, and $$$ while always playing the innocent victim.

10 minutes ago, TaylorsSquad said:

So now you're moving goal posts because you know they don't have actual acclaim and think calling their albums the GOAT without naming them says all I need to know. If Taylor's only remembered for Folklore/Evermore like you claimed when Fearless, Speak Now, Red and arguably TTPD will be remembered just as much as those two Albums it's safe to say Madonna's only Album where she was loved unquestionably was Ray of Light.

Lmao TTPD yeah right, you guys live in a cult

Are we gonna really put Fearless, Speak Now and TTPD vs Ray of Light or Like a Prayer?

Is there like a cult sessions you guys attend or something

The things you post here are insane

This was building for years. She should've disappeared for a while.

I don't get her obsession to release non stop other than money. She is no different than Ed Sheeran at this point who kept putting out music and the music just got worse as he went on.

4 minutes ago, Trent W said:

Lmao TTPD yeah right, you guys live in a cult

Are we gonna really put Fearless, Speak Now and TTPD vs Ray of Light or Like a Prayer?

Is there like a cult sessions you guys attend or something

The things you post here are insane

Glad you have no point and can just scream "CULT! CULT! CULT!" Into the ATRL echo chambers.

TTPD has like 4 great songs. the remainder are mid to trash.

TTPD a good album or one that's going to be remembered??

Maybe remembered for the awful turd it was, not anything else. Guaranteed.

Swifities are truly delulu af living in their own damn bubble.

Edited Tuesday at 10:41 PM1 day by MainB

Just now, TaylorsSquad said:

Glad you have no point and can just scream "CULT! CULT! CULT!" Into the ATRL echo chambers.

How else do you want me to explain it?

You put TTPD next to Ray of Light

You have to make sense for people not to scream CULT CULT CULT

Just now, Trent W said:

How else do you want me to explain it?

You put TTPD next to Ray of Light

You have to make sense for people not to scream CULT CULT CULT

Taylor's not just going to be remembered for Folklore or Evermore like you initially claimed that was my only point. You can go back to your meltdown.

Her recent decisions remind me of Weezer. Quality control is a major issue for some artists.

2 hours ago, Sasori. said:

nah it's just pop music. people are weird as hell

Huh? People aren't showing up to her private jets with pitchforks and flaming torches. Her terrible music is just being reviewed accordingly and dunked on across the internet. I would say that the backlash is commensurate. If you "just" produce **** art for long enough, you are liable to get **** on.

For making bad music? Or for hanging out with Zionists, MAGAs, ICE contactors, and Robert Kraft himself? In both cases, I'd say it's valid

Edited Tuesday at 11:56 PM1 day by BrokenMachine

i mean it's valid to dislike her music and drag it a biT, some drags here can be actually funny even if I don't agree, but overall the reactions are always SO blown up I basically don't even pay attention to her backlash anymore, it just feels disingenuous.