6 minutes ago, eclipsed said:

If Jay Z chooses the performers why would he ever pick Gaga again to headline her own show if Beyoncé herself hasn't headlined a second solo show. No way she's getting a second show before Bey does

Let me hold your hand when I tell you this: there's no going to be a Jay-Z in a few years from now

LoveGame in Dolby Atmos/Spatial Audio absolutely F*CKs (raw and lubeless too)

2 hours ago, David_Greengrass97 said:

Did you go see any Japan dates @GipJo ?

I read on Twitter, you guys did a small project 🥹🥹🥹🥹 it's so cute

Yes, I got DITD

41 minutes ago, Bhumisah said:

If Gaga does end up as a surprise performer, she will definitely sing Americano and then exit

Crazy that for one of her songs to be socially/politically charged we have to go back to BTW. Angel Down being the only exception I think, Come To Mama is just trash lets not even try.

I hope LG8 has something to say other than musically/sonically

Edited February 7Feb 7 by opbranden

49 minutes ago, eclipsed said:

If Jay Z chooses the performers why would he ever pick Gaga again to headline her own show if Beyoncé herself hasn't headlined a second solo show. No way she's getting a second show before Bey does

Jay-Z is in the Epstein files. I don't think we have to worry

1 minute ago, opbranden said:

Crazy that for one of her songs to be socially/politically charged we have to go back to BTW. Angel Down being the only exception I think, Come To Mama is just trash lets not even try.

I hope LG8 has something to say other than musically/sonically

If he is standing up for LGBTQ+ like he says he is, I fear it'll be BTW

1 minute ago, thesegayz said:

Jay-Z is in the Epstein files. I don't think we have to worry

A bit OT, but if anyone thinks that just because Epstein died, that kind of horrific stuff stopped… think again. The whole thing was clearly a massive network of enablers and predators. So I bet someone will still protect these monsters.

+ It's chilling that, according to those files, someone Gaga considered a friend was in contact with Epstein and allegedly tried to get her to meet him... Especially during the ARTPOP era, when she was clearly at her most vulnerable. That's genuinely scary and disgusting...

I'm not confident we will ever get the whole truth and that every single one of those poor victims will get the justice they deserve

Edited February 7Feb 7 by opbranden

8 minutes ago, opbranden said:

Crazy that for one of her songs to be socially/politically charged we have to go back to BTW. Angel Down being the only exception I think, Come To Mama is just trash lets not even try.

I hope LG8 has something to say other than musically/sonically

She spoke out against the Russian war on Die With A Smile

Our love is the only war worth fighting for...

I didn't know being in the Epstein files prevented people from mantaining positions of powers in the US. Could've sworn it was actually the other way around.

8 minutes ago, opbranden said:

A bit OT, but if anyone thinks that just because Epstein died, that kind of horrific stuff stopped… think again. The whole thing was clearly a massive network of enablers and predators. So I bet someone will still protect these monsters.

+ It's chilling that, according to those files, someone Gaga considered a friend was in contact with Epstein and allegedly tried to get her to meet him... Especially during the ARTPOP era, when she was clearly at her most vulnerable. That's genuinely scary and disgusting...

I'm not confident we will ever get the whole truth and that every single one of those poor victims will get the justice they deserve

This is where we gotta give Bobbé his flowers: He might not be the best day to day manager, as y'all continue to point out every macro-mistake of her career trajectory since he took over, but he managed to rehaul her image on GAGA's terms, while also keeping her away from the ghouls of Hollywood and not selling her out to the likes of Epstein.

Troy Carter would have sold her out for sure.

there i said it, princess die is only good as an unreleased track.

1 minute ago, Arthoe said:

This is where we gotta give Bobbé his flowers: He might not be the best day to day manager, as y'all continue to point out every macro-mistake of her career trajectory since he took over, but he managed to rehaul her image on GAGA's terms, while also keeping her away from the ghouls of Hollywood and not selling her out to the likes of Epstein.

Troy Carter would have sold her out for sure.

100%. He might not be the greatest manager, but at that point she needed a friend first and a manager second, and Bobby always genuinely seemed to care about her. He definitely has his faults (Ritchy), but at least, as you said, he gave her space and helped keep her away from a lot of other questionable people who were circling her at the time. Troy never really cared about her imo

I'm sorry but the fact that we have to compare Bobby's skills as a manager to imaginary scenarios as serious as Troy Carter selling her out to ******* Epstein…….

Jeffrey was interested in her since 2011 and nothing happened so let's not with these fantasies plz

With the Super Bowl approaching, I can't help but think this is the year she should have done it.

Don't get me wrong, I loved her 2017 show, but now… she's at the absolute peak of her artistry, both musically and mentally. (Just rewatch the documentary and you'll see that the 2017 halftime show was done through sheer struggle.) A Super Bowl performance this year would have been amazing and the perfect way to end this incredible era.

Little Monsters be like: "At least this new manager didn't try to kill her"

2 minutes ago, Bimbo said:

I'm sorry but the fact that we have to compare Bobby's skills as a manager to imaginary scenarios as serious as Troy Carter selling her out to ******* Epstein…….

Jeffrey was interested in her since 2011 and nothing happened so let's not with these fantasies plz

Are we talking about the same Troy, the one that should've protected her image and career, who gave the ok to a track with a known abuser and then thought it was a great idea to push it WW and make it the second single?

What? You want to make a MV for it directed by another abuser? Sure!!! Let's go for cOnTrOvErSy( the mv was shelved right after troy left btw thanks bobby)

It's really not hard to imagine what else he might've considered "okay" for her at the time If he stayed

7 hours ago, jesus del rey said:

Even though Madge and Grace Jones treated Gar so badly in her early days, other legends, such as Elton John and Tony picked her up so I don't really support the whole "She was unloved by her icons" narrative

I wonder if thats why she turned to male icons instead of female i cant think of one female icon off the top of my head

11 minutes ago, opbranden said:

Are we talking about the same Troy, the one that should've protected her image and career, who gave the ok to a track with a known abuser and then thought it was a great idea to push it WW and make it the second single?

What? You want to make a MV for it directed by another abuser? Sure!!! Let's go for cOnTrOvErSy( the mv was shelved right after troy left btw thanks bobby)

It's really not hard to imagine what else he might've considered "okay" for her at the time If he stayed

So why didn't he immediately fly her out to the island if Epstein wanted to be involved in the BTWF and ARTPOP?

Just now, Bimbo said:

So why didn't he immediately fly her out to the island if Epstein wanted to be involved in the BTWF and ARTPOP?

We're not saying that would've definitely happened and that Troy was an Epstein pimp, just that Bobby was first and foremost her friend, helped her turn her career around, and created a safer environment for her to work in. Troy didn't do that, and that's not really speculation... it's based on what we know and what actually happened.

That being said, maybe Bobby wasn't a great friend either cause he made her believe that A-YO could be a huge hit

On September 3, 2013, Gaga asked her fans through Twitter to help her choose the second single: options given were "Manicure", "Sexxx Dreams", "Aura" and "Swine".^[19] On September 20, 2013, Gaga announced that "Venus" had been chosen as the second single, and that it would be released before the album.^[20] A snippet of "Do What U Want" debuted in a US commercial for Best Buy/Beatson October 17, 2013.^[17][21][22] It was also used in promotion for British mobile company, O2, as part of their "Be More Dog" campaign.^[23]Because of how popular "Do What U Want" quickly became upon its premiere on October 21, 2013, when topping various iTunes charts, Gaga and her label decided to release that as the second official single from Artpop, instead of "Venus".

You had to be there.

Not people defending Troy in here

10 minutes ago, Smarticle said:

I wonder if thats why she turned to male icons instead of female i cant think of one female icon off the top of my head

Cher, who showed her so much grace she recorded a duet with her before she was even famous ddd like that's a huge flex on Gaga's part

But yeah for some reason female artists were really petty to each other in the 80s and 90s and that pettiness stayed with those icons as they aged

Edited February 7Feb 7 by Aden

1 minute ago, DaphneGuinness said:

Not people defending Troy in here

Who is?

Everybody's got to love each other
Stop throwin' stones at your sisters and your brothers
Man, it wasn't that long ago we were all living in the jungle
So why do we gotta put each other down
When there's more than enough love to g-g-go around?

Come to mama
Tell me who hurt ya
There's gonna be no future
If we don't figure this out

Dude in a lab coat and a man of God
(Come onto mama, come on, mama)
Fought over prisms and a forty-day flood
(Come onto mama, come on, mama, ooh)
Well, I say rainbows did more than they've ever done
So why do we gotta fight over ideas?
We're talkin' the same old **** after all of these years

Come to mama
Tell me who hurt ya
There's gonna be no future
If we don't figure this out

Oh, come tomorrow
Who are you gonna follow?
There's gonna be no future
If we don't figure this out

Psychic guru catches minnows in the harbor
(Come onto mama, come on, mama)
Everyone tells him he should work a little harder
(Come onto mama, come on, mama) hey, man, get to work! Catch 'em!

They all tell you that freedom must be bought
But, baby, he's already caught 'em
So why do we gotta tell each other how to live?
The only prisons that exist are ones we put each other in

Come to mama
Tell me who hurt ya
There's gonna be no future
If we don't figure this out

Oh-oh, come to mama
Who are you gonna follow?
There's gonna be no future
If we don't figure this out

Come to mama
Come onto me, woah, oh-oh-ooh, oh-ooh-oh
Come on mama
Come on mama
Come on mama, woah, oh-oh-ooh
Woah, ooh-oh (woah, ooh-oh-oh)
Woah, ooh-oh (woah, ooh-oh-oh)

'Cause I wanna be there
I wanna be there for you
I wanna be there

Why do we gotta tell each other how to live?
The only prisons that exist are ones we put each other in
Why do we gotta tell each other how to live?
Look what that rainbow did

Ooh-hoo, woohoo-ooh-hoo, woohoo-hoo
Ooh-hoo, woohoo-ooh-hoo, woohoo-hoo
Ooh-hoo, woohoo-ooh-hoo

Is Bobby still even her manager?