Time for track 4, I think. 
 

Out of the Woods >  tis the damn season > Don’t Blame Me > exile > I Knew You Were Trouble > Hey Stephen > Speak Now > The Man > A Place in this World

Is Sweeter Than Fiction going to be on 1989 TV? It made more sense to include it on Red TV  

 

I mean, I know it's Taylor + Jack but it fits Red TV more imo

Edited April 23, 20224 yr by Squall

1 hour ago, wastedpotential said:

I really do believe it. Her career is healthier than it's been in years after RED (TV). This is the most well liked she's been since like 2008. It's the most acclaimed she's ever been. She managed to do 850k copies of a surprise alternative release with no physical copies in stores for people to buy. She managed to clear 600k with an already 8x Platinum album that came out a decade before and had no pre-release singles. If Taylor has a strong lead that gets radio support and good playlisting from Republic, a few promo slots on the places that still matter (SNL and Fallon, basically), and actually remembers her Twitter and Instagram passwords in the time leading up to the release, I see no reason why she wouldn't have a shot at clearing 1M. Maybe something like 700k pure and 300k SEA would be achievable 

Yeah exactly this. If Lover opened with like 180K SEA with 2 songs which were almost non events after the first month, I don't see TS10 receiving less than 250k SEA first week

Even though I know it wouldn't be enough to chart, would Billboard count The Lakes vinyl towards the Hot 100?

I finally got the Evermore vinyl from her web store’s latest drop, arrived yesterday and  The pristine perfection of her songwriting shines through more than on Spotify, and it sounds so quiet and intimate. I had Folkie and SacRed ahead of it as of yesterday but this has kind of settled the ranking debate in my mind, Evergod is her best album. Whew.

 

I feel like it makes sense though. She was clearly in a creative fever high in summer 2020 and she was only starting to hit her stride with it on Folklore, the Evermore lyrics go even deeper under the surface and are more challenging topically. Ugh. What an alb.

Has anyone noticed that track 7 is Taylor's most flop?

6 hours ago, Squall said:

Is Sweeter Than Fiction going to be on 1989 TV? It made more sense to include it on Red TV  

 

I mean, I know it's Taylor + Jack but it fits Red TV more imo

It fits with the 80s themed sound imo

The Archer is so dull and boring

I dont remember the last time I finished that song

Mostly skipping it after 1st chorus

She really released 3 worst tracks as first 3 songs we have ever heard from Lover

7 minutes ago, pccp said:

Has anyone noticed that track 7 is Taylor's most flop?

I kinda thought that Miss Americana would end it

But yeah, that song doesnt get many daily streams either these days

 

That Halsey sound is quickly dated 

Joel Little really made most of her weakest songs 

 

 

In the other hand, seven deserves much more

Idk how this is me farting and explicit affair outstreamed ha

Gave Loser a spin on my walk the other day, it mostly holds up, but yeah the Joel tracks are truly the worst of her career. The way he (and Lorde kii) have declined since Pure Heroine is startling.

 

The 12 track Antonoff album hidden on Lover (along with It’s Nice To Have A Friend) >>>>> the full album we got

Edited April 24, 20224 yr by Beyonnaise

It's crazy how Joel Little got 3 of his 4 songs as singles. I know he's had a few, but she seems so adverse to making Jack's songs singles for what ever reason. She really needs somebody in her camp that's not a yes man and can help her make decisions like Scott did.

What are people talking about? Miss American is one of the few tolerable tracks on Loser. Also seven is an AMAZING track!

Miss Americana is one of her best pop songs 

 

Also, YNTCD is more Taylor's fault than Joel

On 4/22/2022 at 6:18 PM, Gork said:

right where you f*** me 

bye I've been laughing at this for like five minutes  it works so well

 

but you f*** my old scarf from that very first week

 

pleeease, f*** me, in the trees

I hit my peak at seven feet 

 

I sneak in and f*** your friends 
And her snotty little family all dressed in pastel 

 

 

48 minutes ago, Ithinkforme13 said:

It's crazy how Joel Little got 3 of his 4 songs as singles. I know he's had a few, but she seems so adverse to making Jack's songs singles for what ever reason. She really needs somebody in her camp that's not a yes man and can help her make decisions like Scott did.

I think it’s interesting that she did 5 songs with Little, and 4 of them are the most overtly political songs of her career. I think she definitely went into those writing sessions with the intention of making ~topical hits~ with him, for some reason. It’s kinda odd that she chose to write about those subjects with a stranger rather than with Jack. I’d love to know the thought process that went into writing those particular songs with that particular collaborator. Now that I’m thinking about it… the Little sessions were the only ones featured in Miss Americana… so she chose to write the ~topical message~ songs with him so that the documentary could delve into those topics.
 

Also, I’m surprised she wasn’t contractually obligated to release I Forgot That You Existed as a single as a condition of writing with Duke/Bells. But knowing her, it probably would’ve been single #5 before covid killed the era.

2 hours ago, Safe&Sound said:

The Archer is so dull and boring

I dont remember the last time I finished that song

Mostly skipping it after 1st chorus

She really released 3 worst tracks as first 3 songs we have ever heard from Lover

How dare you 

Oops I’m late but

 

Track 3:

Treacherous > Love Story > Style > the last great american dynasty > gold rush > Lover > Back To December > Teardrops On My Guitar > I Did Something Bad 

 

Track 4:

tis the damn season > Out Of The Woods > exile > Speak Now > Don’t Blame Me > I Knew You Were Trouble > Hey Stephen > The Man > A Place In This World 

10 hours ago, idkwiam said:

The way @wastedpotentialis right.

 

With the best promotion of her career TS10 might open with 1m. If she really achieves it it can be her biggest achievement of her career.

10 hours ago, Achilles. said:

I think so too. Her position right now is giving like, Adele post-21, Gaga post-ASIB universal love. Fortunately Taylor is not dumb enough to squander that on a shitty comeback song or subpar album. 
 

9 hours ago, wastedpotential said:

I really do believe it. Her career is healthier than it's been in years after RED (TV). This is the most well liked she's been since like 2008. It's the most acclaimed she's ever been. She managed to do 850k copies of a surprise alternative release with no physical copies in stores for people to buy. She managed to clear 600k with an already 8x Platinum album that came out a decade before and had no pre-release singles. If Taylor has a strong lead that gets radio support and good playlisting from Republic, a few promo slots on the places that still matter (SNL and Fallon, basically), and actually remembers her Twitter and Instagram passwords in the time leading up to the release, I see no reason why she wouldn't have a shot at clearing 1M. Maybe something like 700k pure and 300k SEA would be achievable 

Sistren - I know she can do it. The biggest factor is, I feel, that she needs to announce it and open preorders a few months in advance including vinyls. A few Stan’s might cry about it, but it’s the surest path to the million mark. Vinyls first week, a single that actually makes some waves in a positive way, decent promo on the week it drops, and a little critical acclaim - perfect storm. She’s right at the perfect moment for the lightning to strike - the Red TV era has proven that! I think at this point a new album won’t come until at least November, and maybe not until the rerecordings are done, but I have a hard time believing the goodwill she’s built lately will fade in that time.

 

The real question is kinda whether 1989 TV could do it, tbh 

Also, hate for The Archer hurts my soul. 

At least with Fearless TV & Red TV we 100% knew she's recording something (her tweets). Now it's pure speculation.

 

4 hours ago, Cruel Summer said:

Also, hate for The Archer hurts my soul. 

Some people truly have no taste 

T4 - tis the damn season > Don’t Blame Me > exile > the rest

The Archer is so… sad. So, so sad. If you get it, you get it. 

Holding onto that one purple heart for dear life i can't wait any longer i need Haunted (TV) right now

Here for The GODcher stanning  The song revived my hope for the Loser era after the 1-2 PUNCH of MEth! and Calm Down.

 

That said, it's still one of her weakest Track 5s. But that's mostly because the others are just too good.