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Why did Alicia start flopping?

? 126 members have voted

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    • Her time expired
      28%
      35
    • Trends changed
      32%
      40
    • She was exposed as Swiss Beats home wrecking *****
      34%
      43
    • Other (explain)
      5%
      7

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She was a FORCE up until like 2010, debuting records with like 600k plus! 
 

where did it all go wrong for Mrs Keys? 

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  • discosean
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    We all **** with other women's husbands on the regular so we can't be canceling people for doing that. 

  • The home wrecker narrative obviously had anything to do with it. I just think she lost the soulful edge and became very watered down and corporate friendly. She never reinvented herself or took risks.

  • never releasing the 'put it in a love song' video 

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15 minutes ago, Bentley said:

She was a FORCE up until like 2010, debuting records with like 600k plus! 
 

where did it all go wrong for Mrs Keys? 

When she took that woman’s husband. 

5 minutes ago, luckythisway said:

No hit single to follow up Girl on Fire 

Girl on Fire was the beginning of the end. I think she just didn’t continue with success after No One. Her songs didn’t have that feeling they did in the 2000s. 

She relied on a big hits to carry her through eras and once they stopped coming her career faded.

never releasing the 'put it in a love song' video 

3 minutes ago, Ryan said:

When she took that woman’s husband. 

We all **** with other women's husbands on the regular so we can't be canceling people for doing that. 

She failed to adapt to the current music and she declined quality wise from TEOF to GOF. She is so talented but she lasted a whole decade and got them classic so the sis is fine.

Alicia should've been more open to new sounds. She tried to stay true to her artistry as a "piano pro" but the industry changes quickly.

 

I even imagined that during TEOF/GOF eras she was gonna pull a pop diva persona but at the end of the day that wasn't her thing. 

People mentioning the whole homewrecking, was it really that big of a scandal? To the point of affecting her career?

GOF (the song) was a notable dip in quality and the song being a “hit” felt extremely forced. I’ve kind of forgotten to check with her since then. 

 

Her first four albums are CLASSICS though. 

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6 minutes ago, discosean said:

We all **** with other women's husbands on the regular so we can't be canceling people for doing that. 

To post this take is insane :skull:

She had a good run, i think her time was just up. Same thing happened to Usher i believe, he was huge and now not so much.

 

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Just now, UnusualBoy said:

People mentioning the whole homewrecking, was it really that big of a scandal? To the point of affecting her career?

It wasn't, ATRL is trolling as usual. 

The home wrecker narrative obviously had anything to do with it. I just think she lost the soulful edge and became very watered down and corporate friendly. She never reinvented herself or took risks. She also loves to think she’s a soprano singer when she’s not.

22 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said:

People mentioning the whole homewrecking, was it really that big of a scandal? To the point of affecting her career?

If she would have kept releasing bops it wouldn't have mattered. But it definitely wasn't a good look to be putting out female empowerment anthems like 'Girl on Fire' and then go directly into taking another woman's husband :rip:

 

But the biggest factor was that she got pregnant which delayed the release of her new album by several years. And then dropped a lackluster album that was DOA by the time it came out. It was also 15 years into her career so it was just her time to flop.

Post "Element Of Freedom":

 

- No Kerry Brothers Jr. (her most prolific collaborator)

- Moving from a big fish in a small pond (Clive Davis-helmed boutique label J Records) to a big fish in a massive pond (RCA - home to her equally-huge contemporaries Xtina, Pink, JT, Britney).

- Definitely moved toward writing camps (but with no proper album threading) which created projects that are not very cohesive.

- Movement away from stately, piano driven records, allowing her protégés to move into that lane (for example, H.E.R. "Focus", Jazmine Sullivan "Stuttering")

9 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said:

People mentioning the whole homewrecking, was it really that big of a scandal? To the point of affecting her career?

Yes. Back then Mashonda wrote an open letter on twitter calling Alicia out on being a homewrecker and her and Swizz Beats were going at each other online it was very messy :skull:  it was all over the blogs back then. Alicia even did an interview denying being a home wrecker.  Her core fanbase (black women) did not support her the same after this.

 

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this video also details some of the drama and the effect on Alicias career

 

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47 minutes ago, discosean said:

We all **** with other women's husbands on the regular so we can't be canceling people for doing that. 

Baby, who is we? I’m not canceling her for it, I’m saying it affected her fan base. I don’t believe you can “steal” anyone from someone but her relationship with her husband started messy and for some it turned them off to her. 

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