5 minutes ago, Johnny Jacobs said:

it is tho.. its a joke just cause the topic is your fave? pls

 

im not the address for your stupid responses 

You do realize this means that every artists in history that worked with different producers in their career is a risk taker? 

1 hour ago, elincomprendid said:

Will ATRL ever stop creating some delusional thread to cry about Taylor's power every other month?

1. Jump from country to pop
2. Removing her catalog from Spotify
3. folklore/evermore
4. Re-Recordings

All these are probably a bigger risk than whatever your basic favs have ever done but don't worry you can keep crying I guess is hard for OTHs in times like this
 

The Spotify thing alone

 

She is not a risk taker in terms of switching up the sound (it’s more of an evolution with her) but she made some very risky career choices. Just because they didn’t backfire doesn’t mean they weren’t risky.

Taylor going from country to pop isn’t as big as a risk as Swifties make it out to be.

 

Before 1989, Taylor was never a hillbilly local Arkansas girl who made pure country music and wasn’t in the pop culture sphere. She already laid the groundwork with the Fearless MVs and songs for Love Story and YBWM and then did it again with the songs and MVs for Red. She was already making pop music so 1989 really isn’t that ‘out of left field’ album that could have potentially alienated her entire fanbase.

What exactly is a risk according to ATRL? 

Yes the only reason, people don't realize is because it always worked in her favour in the end.

Musically, NO.

But she had a nerve to drag Apple last time. In business, she's a risk taker.

23 minutes ago, Love Again said:

Taylor going from country to pop isn’t as big as a risk as Swifties make it out to be.

 

Before 1989, Taylor was never a hillbilly local Arkansas girl who made pure country music and wasn’t in the pop culture sphere. She already laid the groundwork with the Fearless MVs and songs for Love Story and YBWM and then did it again with the songs and MVs for Red. She was already making pop music so 1989 really isn’t that ‘out of left field’ album that could have potentially alienated her entire fanbase.

She had some crossover hits, but it was still a risky move given that her fanbase was mainly attracted to her country music. There's a reason many people didn't think 1989 was going to sell as much as her previous albums because of that.

57 minutes ago, Helios said:

If Im not mistaken her first albums were labeled as country/pop right? Taylor was not seen in any way as a pop singer. Didn't she win entertainer of the year at the CMAs?  She was basically labeled a country singer. Thats why I said it was a risk. Completely switching genres and basically abandoning a large segment of what made you popular in the first place is risky (in my opinion). We can argue about the substance of the songs but I wouldnt say she has played it safe her entire career.

Fearless and Speak Now were countrypop for sure. 

26 minutes ago, Bloo said:

What exactly is a risk according to ATRL? 

Wearing colorful wigs and costumes? 

Just because they’ve all paid off for her doesn’t mean there weren’t risks involved. A risky career move is abandoning your musical bubble (which is what Nashville is) to go make pop music. No one at her label thought it would work, the opening predictions for 1989 were a significant decline (like 650k), and there was a notable narrative of her hardcore country fans turning on her after she announced 1989. However, with hindsight, that fear seems ludicrous given how successful the album was, but it was certainly a risk for her in 2014. If it hadn’t panned out and she’d had to slink back to country music, there’s no way she’d still have done as well as she had before. It was a risk (and a bigger risk than anything Gaga or Britney or Rihanna or whoever you stan has actually pulled) but it paid off for her. 

Lol 

 

NO!

Me wasn’t risky, it just sucked!

1 hour ago, TheHiveMind said:

Wearing colorful wigs and costumes? 

Apparently showing your vajayay is the only thing that counts as risky to most ATRLers.

1 hour ago, wastedpotential said:

Just because they’ve all paid off for her doesn’t mean there weren’t risks involved. A risky career move is abandoning your musical bubble (which is what Nashville is) to go make pop music. No one at her label thought it would work, the opening predictions for 1989 were a significant decline (like 650k), and there was a notable narrative of her hardcore country fans turning on her after she announced 1989. However, with hindsight, that fear seems ludicrous given how successful the album was, but it was certainly a risk for her in 2014. If it hadn’t panned out and she’d had to slink back to country music, there’s no way she’d still have done as well as she had before. It was a risk (and a bigger risk than anything Gaga or Britney or Rihanna or whoever you stan has actually pulled) but it paid off for her. 

Gaga has definitely take more risks with her music.  Substance wise Taylor has always made very safe music. 

16 minutes ago, CrimsonX said:

Me wasn’t risky, it just sucked!

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2 hours ago, Klein said:

You do realize this means that every artists in history that worked with different producers in their career is a risk taker? 

if they were super successful with the previous ones then yes.. i do.. it makes sense.

 

not many have done that and stayed as successful

 

 

18 minutes ago, Helios said:

Gaga has definitely take more risks with her music.  Substance wise Taylor has always made very safe music. 

Gaga never took any risks with her music.

ATRL doesn’t like to admit it because all her risks paid off massively 

Business wise yes Taylor has taken risks that have paid off tremendously. For most people on this site, though, I think they’re looking for risqué, instead of risky. 

her risks are paying off doesnt mean she didnt take risk.

Name one country star that successfully transfer to become a pop star like that. Even Shania couldn`t do it.

 

If another artist went from making pop albums like Reputation and Lover then released Folklore, you could definitely say they were taking a risk. However, Taylor and her team know how many fans she has and so anything she does that could be considered risky for other artists, doesn't really apply to her. 

Also her going from Country -> Pop wasn't risky. 

Most pop girls took risks at some point. Sure she wasn’t as risky as Madonna or maybe Beyonce, but she’s way more riskier than Gaga, Rihanna, Katy, Adele, Ariana and others.

1 hour ago, Helios said:

Gaga has definitely take more risks with her music.  Substance wise Taylor has always made very safe music. 

I love Gaga but where? Just because she flopped, doesn't mean the music was risky (Even my favourite album of her, Artpop, was dated on arrival).

BTW? Joanne? Chromatica? You can put so many songs from one album to another and it fits.

 

Taylor is only "safe" because she doesn't flop. Her risk for all the OTH:

 

1. Releasing an album where she is the solo writer for all tracks except one deluxe track with 19! and selling more than 1 Million copies first week.

2. Changing genre from country to pop with the risk of loosing her fanbase
3. Removing her music from Spotify and writing an open letter to f*cking Apple! 

4. Releasing reputation with the snake image AFTER she received backlash from half of Hollywood 

5. Re-Recording all her catalogue with an public feud against Scooter 

6. You Need To Calm Down, Equality Act and political involvement 

7. Releasing not one, but two alternative/folk albums less than a year after her bubblegum pop era 

8. Releasing 5 albums and 2 re-recording in 4! years

 

Talk to me, when your fave (when it's not Madonna) took actually career risks (and flopping is not a risk).

No

1 hour ago, zuper said:

I love Gaga but where? Just because she flopped, doesn't mean the music was risky (Even my favourite album of her, Artpop, was dated on arrival).

BTW? Joanne? Chromatica? You can put so many songs from one album to another and it fits.

 

Taylor is only "safe" because she doesn't flop. Her risk for all the OTH:

 

1. Releasing an album where she is the solo writer for all tracks except one deluxe track with 19! and selling more than 1 Million copies first week.

2. Changing genre from country to pop with the risk of loosing her fanbase
3. Removing her music from Spotify and writing an open letter to f*cking Apple! 

4. Releasing reputation with the snake image AFTER she received backlash from half of Hollywood 

5. Re-Recording all her catalogue with an public feud against Scooter 

6. You Need To Calm Down, Equality Act and political involvement 

7. Releasing not one, but two alternative/folk albums less than a year after her bubblegum pop era 

8. Releasing 5 albums and 2 re-recording in 4! years

 

Talk to me, when your fave (when it's not Madonna) took actually career risks (and flopping is not a risk).

I mean Born this way was literally a gay anthem in 2011 when there was still a lot of backlash against the LGBT in the US. At that point she was arguably one of if not the biggest popstar on the planet and she completely changed her image and sound. You cant tell me that the Born this way album wasnt a risk coming from the fame.  Taylor can not and would not ever do something like that. Her music and image is far too safe.