2 minutes ago, Sept said:

2NE1. People seem to forget that they used to have back to back hits 

 

Clap Your Hands - Go Away - Can't Nobody were literally released on the same day

Lonely - IATB - Hate You - Ugly were simultanously released as well

I mean yeah but I'm sure there were more cases between 2NE1 and New Jeans. Maybe Sistar in like 2014? Twice around 2017-208? Still, so long ago lmao

ngl i thought they were gonna go all in and completly change the formula

the whole endless tv stages, brand embassador, performance<>coreography videos on yt

which is SO formulatic but i can't complain too much right, i don't think it's ever gonna change

7 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

How is Hype Boy still top5 across all platforms still after like 6 monhts?  Is it viral on Tik tock or something?

 

I don't keep up with charts much, when was the last time a group had such digital power? I can't see it for BP to have multiple songs smahsing like this since their releases are so sparse, maybe Twice? 

I think it's because many celebrities and idols covered this song in October and November which makes a resurgence in streams + The releasing of Ditto and OMG make people revisit their previous discog

1 hour ago, Narima said:

that's my fav part

what i don't like is the baby baby baby 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, hallucinate said:

HYBE won huh 

 

it’s the catchiest part of the song tho

 

1 hour ago, Cain said:

That's the best part

 

 

 

 

I'm so worried around here that I'm hearing people thinking that's the best part. Like genuinely worried. That part os so ugly on the ears, how can y'all stand it?

Just now, AxelFox said:

I mean yeah but I'm sure there were more cases between 2NE1 and New Jeans. Maybe Sistar in like 2014? Twice around 2017-208? Still, so long ago lmao

Twice truly SMASHED with Cheer Up - TT - Knock Knock 

SISTAR released once every year so it's not really comparable

10 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

How is Hype Boy still top5 across all platforms still after like 6 monhts?  Is it viral on Tik tock or something?

the choreo went viral

Seeing LSF, IVE, and NJ’s success really makes me wonder what SM needs to do to gain international appeal off the jump.  They’ve literally never had that before even groups like Itzy had that appeal (before the release of one too many duds). 
 

Is it really just the music? Bc they’ve been slacking on views and streams all across the board outside of Korea compared to other groups.

Just now, Sept said:

Twice truly SMASHED with Cheer Up - TT - Knock Knock 

SISTAR released once every year so it's not really comparable

I remember Touch My Body and I Swear were released close to one another that's why I thought of them 

 

2 minutes ago, PerfectSacrifice said:

I think it's because many celebrities and idols covered this song in October and November which makes a resurgence in streams + The releasing of Ditto and OMG make people revisit their previous discog

Hm okay I guess that help, still very impressive nonetheless

8 minutes ago, Tomek said:

that attention release was just too good. no ads, no marketing, no pre-release promo

the only thing you could judge was the material

 

 

now everyone wants rookie groups to debut this way (see babymonster)

 

now let's talk about attention

the song was fresh, the european mv was fresh, the visuals were fresh (the natural hair was kind of genius tbh)

who's doing it like them?  this proves how much people love innovation, especially in a formulatic industry like k-pop. PERIOD

+ they did not try to be blackpink 10.0

what the ****

newjennies INDEED

 

 

 

What is this?

 

Jeon Somi is such a star. It’s a shame she’s stuck in the dungeon under YG/TBL making bad music. 
 

 

the way newqueens had everyone shook when they held the top 2 & had a 3rd song in the top ten with their debut

 

only for them to hold the top 3 & have a fourth song in the top 10 a few months later 

At least it passed ditto somewhere 

 

 

32 minutes ago, Tomek said:

that attention release was just too good. no ads, no marketing, no pre-release promo

the only thing you could judge was the material

 

 

now everyone wants rookie groups to debut this way (see babymonster)

 

now let's talk about attention

the song was fresh, the european mv was fresh, the visuals were fresh (the natural hair was kind of genius tbh)

who's doing it like them?  this proves how much people love innovation, especially in a formulatic industry like k-pop. PERIOD

the 1-2-3 punch that shook the whole world

 

attention surprise release - who tf are these kids moment while serving innovative song and fresh mv/aesthetics

hype boy with 5 different mvs next day

hurt the 3rd day

 

MHJ knows what she's doing

but the material was just too strong and fresh

29 minutes ago, Cotton said:

Seeing LSF, IVE, and NJ’s success really makes me wonder what SM needs to do to gain international appeal off the jump.  They’ve literally never had that before even groups like Itzy had that appeal (before the release of one too many duds). 
 

Is it really just the music? Bc they’ve been slacking on views and streams all across the board outside of Korea compared to other groups.

SM makes noise thats it.

 

Not in a BLACKPINK way, BLACKPINK and YGs brand of 'noise' is basically minimalistic songs that rely heavily on swagger and rhythm which BLACKPINK really does pull off.

 

SM makes noisy music, its not catchy nor coherent, ANTIFRAGILE may be noisy for many but it has a clear cut opening verse prechorus chorus and post hook. Not to mention its melody is STRONG, many say its overproduced but its still in the Top 200 on Spotify Global.

 

SM really needs to focus on choosing GOOD catchy pop songs first and not whatever the hell nævis and KWANGYA need bc

it’s hilarious how Aespa blows up with NL, then IVE comes in with Love Dive and everyone’s is like whoa they got a bigger hit than NL, then NJ comes with Hype Boy and now that’s looking like it could be bigger than Love Dive 

 

 This generation is insane with the smashes so far. A new group is popping up with a national hit every year so far

old jennies  

 

 

Also people need to stop think lyrics don’t matter in Kpop. They do. Lyric videos get tens of millions of views for popular songs. 
 

SM struggles digitally and on streaming services most of the time because their lyrics are AWFUL (outside of Taeyeon and RV half the time). 
 

The songs they think have international appeal are all dated 2010 pots and pans music. The fact that Aespa had Savage in 2021 that literally had a DUBSTEP dance break followed by screeching  and then on top of that they have nonsensical lyrics.

 

But Dubstep in this decade? SM is so out of touch. They’ll never be that group internationally again. They had it 1st and 2nd gen with YG but now they’re completely outclassed.

Edited January 4, 20233 yr by Gaia

 

9 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Also people need to stop think lyrics don’t matter in Kpop. They do. Lyric videos get tens of millions of views for popular songs. 
 

SM struggles digitally and on streaming services most of the time because their lyrics are AWFUL (outside of Taeyeon and RV half the time). 
 

The songs they think have international appeal are all dated 2010 pots and pans music. The fact that Aespa had Savage in 2021 that literally had a DUBSTEP dance break followed by screeching  and then on top of that they have nonsensical lyrics.

 

But Dubstep in this decade? SM is so out of touch. They’ll never be that group internationally again. They had it 1st and 2nd gen with YG but now they’re completely outclassed.

the I Got A Boy print!

16 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

SM makes noise thats it.

 

Not in a BLACKPINK way, BLACKPINK and YGs brand of 'noise' is basically minimalistic songs that rely heavily on swagger and rhythm which BLACKPINK really does pull off.

 

SM makes noisy music, its not catchy nor coherent, ANTIFRAGILE may be noisy for many but it has a clear cut opening verse prechorus chorus and post hook. Not to mention its melody is STRONG, many say its overproduced but its still in the Top 200 on Spotify Global.

 

SM really needs to focus on choosing GOOD catchy pop songs first and not whatever the hell nævis and KWANGYA need bc

ANTIFRAGILE is literally a reggaeton song and Latino music is really hot right now

 

SM's music is entirely different

 

The prob with SM is marketing. They had a chance with Bad Boy and Psycho but didn't do anything. And they chose Life Too Short out of all songs to promote aespa  

The fact that ditto is just right now is straying to really grow in the charts 

 

 

Almost top 10 

 

Riseee 

 

Top 50 

 

 

Actually I want Baby Monster to have songs like I Love You, Clap Your Hands & Hate You by 2ne1, all strike a good balance between feminine & YG’s signature girl crush concepts. They shouldn’t rehash DDDD & How You Like That type songs tho bc while those songs worked for BP, giving the new group that will surely create resentment within Blinks once they feel BP are completely sidelined in lieu of Baemon.

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