3 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

since we’re discussing idols and english, this is still so iconic to me 

Sunmi’s not fluent but her English is iconic lmao.

Also she speaks it better than most non native speakers. I just wish she smashed internationally. She has the music and personality for it. Oh well, in another life I guess.
 

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tiktok viraliTY should make it happen though 

 

23 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

Sorry y’all but this English speaker comparison is so weird lol. Especially when you’re doing it among people who were born or raised in English speaking countries. Ofc they’re gonna be fluent in English since they spent time there during their formative years. 
 

now let’s talk about idols who didn’t really grow up in English speaking countries but have really good English like CL or Jackson Wang (even though he’s from hongkong so idk if I should count him). 

English-speaking idols (native or not) is such a dynamic concept in general to me. I’m always baffled when I take idols in account that had never set foot in an anglophonic country prior, but have immaculate enunciation in English like CL and Giselle (though I’ve heard that English is actually Giselle’s primary language), but you have native speakers like Mark Tuan that are perplexing accented or have weird diction, despite spending most of their formative years speaking the language.

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is that irene or sieun

Of all idols BoA still impresses me the most with her language skills. Despite debuting at age 13 she somehow found the time to become completely fluent in Japanese and very strong in English too  A savant

 

Japanese skill has really decreased among idols over the years as the market has become less relevant. In 2nd gen you had whole groups that spoke at least decent Japanese, like Kara and Shinee. Now you're lucky to have one ethnic Japanese member and that's the extent of it

6 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

since we’re discussing idols and english, this is still so iconic to me 

her tweet after this iconic

 

2 minutes ago, Rhythm said:

I’m always baffled when I take idols in account that had never set foot in an anglophonic country prior, but have immaculate enunciation in English like CL and Giselle (though I’ve heard that English is actually Giselle’s primary language)

CL and Giselle attended international schools from a young age, so were taught in English, that's why they are so good at it.

 

In fact, when aespa first debuted, J-netz bashed Giselle for sounding "foreign" in Japanese, so English really is her strongest language it seems, probably down to her schooling growing up.

Just now, Witnessed ET said:

Sunmi’s not fluent but her English is iconic lmao.

Also she speaks it better than most non native speakers. I just wish she smashed internationally. She has the music and personality for it. Oh well, in another life I guess.
 

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tiktok viraliTY should make it happen though 

 

she’s kinda close tbh! her onstage banter for the GGGM tour was great and clear, and she even had some quick rapport with the crowd at times

 

like yeah she has to work at it a little, but she’s able to joke around and stuff which is really fun

 

also unrelated but this just reminded me that someone gave her a (new!) bra at the end of my show 

 

neeeed the tiktok twinks to make her choreo go viral

we need the #TailChallenge or something 

5 minutes ago, FACT said:

We can’t wait for his hiatus 

 

Dark Blood trailer is a masterpiece 

It really is. Now I hope the music follows 

 

2 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

her tweet after this iconic

 

not 115k likes  iconic queen

 

4 minutes ago, Rhythm said:

English-speaking idols (native or not) is such a dynamic concept in general to me. I’m always baffled when I take idols in account that had never set foot in an anglophonic country prior, but have immaculate enunciation in English like CL and Giselle (though I’ve heard that English is actually Giselle’s primary language), but you have native speakers like Mark Tuan that are perplexing accented or have weird diction, despite spending most of their formative years speaking the language.

yeah it all depends on the individual I believe. Because I’ve seen firsthand examples of people immigrating to the US way before me from their motherlands but my American accent is way stronger than theirs. I think there’s a lot of factors that define a person’s speaking style. 
 

 

5 minutes ago, Harrier said:

Of all idols BoA still impresses me the most with her language skills. Despite debuting at age 13 she somehow found the time to become completely fluent in Japanese and very strong in English too  A savant

 

Japanese skill has really decreased among idols over the years as the market has become less relevant. In 2nd gen you had whole groups that spoke at least decent Japanese, like Kara and Shinee. Now you're lucky to have one ethnic Japanese member and that's the extent of it

BoA really put in the WORK! 
queen has always put in the time and effort
 

4 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

her tweet after this iconic

 

her legendary no homo moment!

2 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

It really is. Now I hope the music follows 

That moment when Sungh**n kicked Jungw*n balls

 

7 minutes ago, Zack said:

CL and Giselle attended international schools from a young age, so were taught in English, that's why they are so good at it.

 

In fact, when aespa first debuted, J-netz bashed Giselle for sounding "foreign" in Japanese, so English really is her strongest language it seems, probably down to her schooling growing up.

Yes, that seems to be the common thread for English-speaking foreign idols. It's the case for Jackson, as well. Those expensive international schools are incredibly thorough.

 

I realized Giselle likely wasn't 100% perfect with the Japanese language when aespa performed there last year, and she stumbled for a few words in her monologue. 

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no one has ever served absolute CVNT like this 

Are there any k-pop boy groups that can beat SM BG's when it comes to weird music and fashion? 

The only ones I can think of is early VIXX and BIGBANG. (But only the fashion, not the music)

 

 

 

I miss how ridiculous they looked before 2018. 

 

 

 

 

And just like that, the k-pop industry was never the same. 

It was camp, thank you EXO. 

 

 

 

Mozart, what are you doing on the floor? 

 

 

 

Just terrible.

Thankfully, they gave us sexy, free & single a month before. 

 

3 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

no one has ever served absolute CVNT like this 

The REAL definition of serving CVNT! 
the way she actually looked like a cat  also the song has grown on me so much since then. 
 

11 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

she’s kinda close tbh! her onstage banter for the GGGM tour was great and clear, and she even had some quick rapport with the crowd at times

 

like yeah she has to work at it a little, but she’s able to joke around and stuff which is really fun

 

also unrelated but this just reminded me that someone gave her a (new!) bra at the end of my show 

 

neeeed the tiktok twinks to make her choreo go viral

we need the #TailChallenge or something 

there are so many challenges that can be done with her songs tbh  Tail challenge, Heartburn challenge, pporppippam challenge…..

we already have Gashina challenge that the whole kpop industry did in 2017 

But I want the next comeback to pull a Cupid  

mainfesting 

23 minutes ago, FACT said:

That moment when Sungh**n kicked Jungw*n balls

 

Glad I’m not the only one who noticed that 

 

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aww this is sweet

 

Also @kendoll2001 did you watch this? Dokyeom’s personality is seriously so LOUD I feel like him and Youngji are made for each other 

 

he should've been in NCT 

42 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

her tweet after this iconic

 

She said "no homo" in the cutest way she could

 

 

Unforgiven coming today, let see if they can surpass Antifragile

 

 

 

On 4/29/2023 at 11:02 PM, Mitsuki said:

 

 

230k in the 1st day 

Omg Hyunjin and Felix cbars social distancing and this is just first day of the preorders 

 

I'm kinda surprised Lee Know cbar was that low considering his popularity in China. But then again this is just first day of preorders so anything could happen.

 

 

23 hours ago, karlo_98 said:

 

I just don't get why Mnet chose him over Jay or Yoo Seungeon  He's literally a Kim Jaehwan 2.0

Because he's the WK1 trainee there's no way all of them didn't debut that's why Mnet reveal his finale interim placement at #11 in order for his fanbase (mostly Korean) to vote for him. Notice that Mnet partial interim placement was all WK1 trainee and Shanbin who's at #3 probably behind Zhang Hao and Matthew 

 

Matthew and Taerae might be the new Dayeon and Chaehyun in ZB1 I fear considering Matthew was the PD choice from what I knew cause only watch Boys Planet highlights. Cnetz truly obsessed with Matthew because of that and all of them melting down and threatening to destroy his photocard when he revealed to debut at #3.

 

22 hours ago, Mitsuki said:

MAXIDENT just casually selling like hot cakes 

 

 

 

 

Stays are buying Maxident out of spite because 5-Star was sold out at that moment.

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Sometimes I totally forgot Giselle is Japanese  

1 hour ago, Josh said:

link pls

 

Just now, worldwide angel said:

 

thanks

51 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

@kendoll2001 did you watch this? Dokyeom’s personality is seriously so LOUD I feel like him and Youngji are made for each other 

 

Yes I was howling through out  I screamed at how wasted they all were by the end

 

6 hours ago, Cyanide said:

Sakura seems like such a genuinely sweet, thoughtful, and intelligent person

Her interactions with little kids is always great 

11 hours ago, Witnessed ET said:

They’re way more relevant with the GP than any 4th gen bg that’s for sure. For their own generation, I guess they’re not as big as EXO or BTS with the GP but have had their own share of well known GP hits like Aju Nice, Pretty U, Don’t Wanna Cry etc which charted well and had longevity in Korea. Plus they’re still consistently charting well with their title tracks to this day as we can see with SUPER and that’s already an indication of good GP support. If it was just fanbase, they probably would have fallen after the first day itself. 

Are u really ignoring seungkwan popularity in Korea? I mean he even won awards for his variety skills