Inspired by this thread where no one seems to mention that they’ve listened to one of her albums in full. And yes, ATRL only represents a certain demographic and not the GP, but it is telling that a lot of people dont really know her discography outside of her big hits.

 

Aside from that, what is her impact, her influence? She has tons of sales, but record sales alone do not a legend make. You could say shes inspired tons of vocalists, but I’d argue that Whitney and Mariah played a larger role in that.

 

With all that, what makes Celine a legend? What is her mark on pop culture, what is her artistic identity? 

My Heart Will Go On alone is enough to make her a legend.

She's got a ton of classics. I guess soccer moms listened to her albums when they bought them, but I doubt anyone got them on replay to this day as they are not classic albums by any means despite the gargantuan sales. 

because she sold a lot of albums

5 minutes ago, lovemehateme said:

My Heart Will Go On alone is enough to make her a legend.

So one huge song makes you a legend now? 

Are you serious?? Close this mess before you get dragged sweetie. The nerve , The disrespect wow! You have tinashe as your picture & you doing this. Wtf

Edited June 13, 20224 yr by Power love

"a lot of people dont really know her discography outside of her big hits" that's exactly what hits are for?  you don't expect people to know 'disco heaven' by lady gaga or 'little thing called love' by rihanna lol.

 

she is a legend because she's one of the most impressive commercial singers of all time; her music was/is incredibly successful in most of the world, she has charisma, touring power, and multiple iconic projects under her belt. she is THAT *****.

6 minutes ago, Love Again said:

 

Inspired by this thread where no one seems to mention that they’ve listened to one of her albums in full. And yes, ATRL only represents a certain demographic and not the GP, but it is telling that a lot of people dont really know her discography outside of her big hits.

 

Aside from that, what is her impact, her influence? She has tons of sales, but record sales alone do not a legend make. You could say shes inspired tons of vocalists, but I’d argue that Whitney and Mariah played a larger role in that.

 

With all that, what makes Celine a legend? What is her mark on pop culture, what is her artistic identity? 

I'm pretty sure she was one of the pioneers of making Vegas residencies a viable option. The fact that she was able to remain a huge attraction for over 20 years there shows her power and worth.

She’s only one of the most global pop stars in the history of music…

1 minute ago, Love Again said:

So one huge song makes you a legend now? 

With that voice, yes.

4 minutes ago, Kevin Parker said:

"a lot of people dont really know her discography outside of her big hits" that's exactly what hits are for?  you don't expect people to know 'disco heaven' by lady gaga or 'little thing called love' by rihanna lol.

 

she is a legend because she's one of the most impressive commercial singers of all time; her music was/is incredibly successful in most of the world, she has charisma, touring power, and multiple iconic projects under her belt. she is THAT *****.

Gaga, Taylor, Bey etc all have albums track getting good daily streams and recognition under the GP and they are on their way to become legends

1 minute ago, lovemehateme said:

With that voice, yes.

Right. Oftentimes the Big 3: Whitney, Mariah & Celine are considered legends from their voices, alone. Withholding any touring receipts, awards, or sales. Their longevity and continued success in the industry cemeted their "legend" status. I'm sure someone can dig more into the numbers. But in terms of cultural impact, the three of them were immediately hailed as divas from talent alone. 

Not by me tbh

 

I think one of the makings of a legend is to transcend generations. I'm not quite sure Celine is doing that. I mean... the streams of her biggest hits are ok-ish, but I get the impression that my generation only knows her vaguely and the one after ours doesn't know her at all as an artist. Certainly not in the same way they know Whitney, Mariah and Madonna. It has a lot to do with the fact that she's been promoting herself as a legacy act since 2000 whereas Madonna and Mariah were still kicking throughout that decade. But an act like her was also not commercially viable in the 2000's tbh. Of course I'm only judging based on my environment and experiences so... maybe I'm wrong

I swear I’ve never heard a song by her aside from MHWGO  Her songs aren’t really on the radio here I feel and no one I know is a fan of hers

 

But her sales and touring numbers are super impressive so a lot of people must like her

Well first we should define what a legend even is...

 

A legend being someone whose work/artistry/talent is widely revered and respected and whose name precedes them meaning, you don't actually have to know anything about Céline or have heard her music, but the name alone conjures an idea of what she's done and respected for. Example: you may not have listened to Ella Fitzgerald, but if you pay any attention to music discussions you would pick she is highly regarded and important and has made a mark in her industry.

 

 

In Céline's case, it's primarily her voice that makes her a legend, that soaring, roaring, kind of silly and campy vocal style of her's that has sold millions of albums around the world. This voice has mad her into an icon with many important classics, and with time, a legend for having achieved so many great things (some of the biggest soundtrack singles ever, a signature, game-changing Vegas residency that paved the way for all the MPGs doing it in the 2010s and on, an AOTY Grammy, and of course the fact that she's slayed not just the French music industry, but the English one too).

 

That certain people haven't listened to her albums in full does not mean much, when MILLIONS have around the world and in more than one language. Most people probably don't listen to a lot of Aretha Franklin or Judy Garland or Bille Holiday albums but that doesn't at all mean they are not certified legends.

 

 

8 minutes ago, Power love said:

Are you serious?? Close this mess before you get dragged sweetie. The nerve , The disrespect wow! You have tinashe as your picture & you doing this. Wtf

 

8 minutes ago, Kevin Parker said:

"a lot of people dont really know her discography outside of her big hits" that's exactly what hits are for?  you don't expect people to know 'disco heaven' by lady gaga or 'little thing called love' by rihanna lol.

 

she is a legend because she's one of the most impressive commercial singers of all time; her music was/is incredibly successful in most of the world, she has charisma, touring power, and multiple iconic projects under her belt. she is THAT *****.

 

7 minutes ago, ifyouseekLEM said:

I'm pretty sure she was one of the pioneers of making Vegas residencies a viable option. The fact that she was able to remain a huge attraction for over 20 years there shows her power and worth.

 

7 minutes ago, HïFidelity said:

She’s only one of the most global pop stars in the history of music…

 

2 minutes ago, ifyouseekLEM said:

Right. Oftentimes the Big 3: Whitney, Mariah & Celine are considered legends from their voices, alone. Withholding any touring receipts, awards, or sales. Their longevity and continued success in the industry cemeted their "legend" status. I'm sure someone can dig more into the numbers. But in terms of cultural impact, the three of them were immediately hailed as divas from talent alone. 

All of this. Her voice is amazing, she’s had several massive hits and consistently sells out shows because she’s a legend. As for the OP, this thread is a master class in how to say you have no taste without saying that you have no taste. Take notes y’all. 

Because she’s a great singer and sold a lot of records.
 

She has no impact compared to Madonna, Mariah, Whitney & Janet. 

A Dua stan getting brave  

Probably because she has a catalog stacked with classics. 

She has one of the best voices ever, has sold over 200 million records and is one of the most global artists ever: she managed to conquer every market from North America, to Europe (where she has the highest certified album ever tied with 21), Asia, Africa, etc. She also broke barriers in french music by being able to be successful in markets that usually ignore french music.

Maybe cause she has several diamond albums and MHWGO is one of the most known songs of all time 

5 minutes ago, swissman said:

Well first we should define what a legend even is...

 

A legend being someone whose work/artistry/talent is widely revered and respected and whose name precedes them meaning, you don't actually have to know anything about Céline or have heard her music, but the name alone conjures an idea of what she's done and respected for. Example: you may not have listened to Ella Fitzgerald, but if you pay any attention to music discussions you would pick she is highly regarded and important and has made a mark in her industry.

 

 

In Céline's case, it's primarily her voice that makes her a legend, that soaring, roaring, kind of silly and campy vocal style of her's that has sold millions of albums around the world. This voice has mad her into an icon with many important classics, and with time, a legend for having achieved so many great things (some of the biggest soundtrack singles ever, a signature, game-changing Vegas residency that paved the way for all the MPGs doing it in the 2010s and on, an AOTY Grammy, and of course the fact that she's slayed not just the French music industry, but the English one too).

 

That certain people haven't listened to her albums in full does not mean much, when MILLIONS have around the world and in more than one language. Most people probably don't listen to a lot of Aretha Franklin or Judy Garland or Bille Holiday albums but that doesn't at all mean they are not certified legends.

 

 

All of this is absolutely true. To be a legend doesn't mean getting streams from the newest generation. It's all about, well, building a legacy that will be respected forever. And that's Celine Dion.

Just because her impact may not be as noticeable, does not mean it's not there. There were plenty of Céline copycats in the Euro-ballad / French-airwaves in the 1990s and 2000s. And so many SINGER-singers include her as an influence.

Wtf is this thread?  just do your research like….  She is very clearly a legend whether 22 year olds on ATRL have listened to her discography or not. It’s not debatable.

Compare your fave’s sales to Celine’s and you’ll see the light, Celine succeed regardless of Madonna, Mariah and Whitney being around, she just stomped and with every era a classic was delivered so american idol contestants can have a song to cover.