It's kinda sad seeing how Hyorin's career went nowhere despite being one of the most talented vocalists.

 

She really needs to maybe give a ballad or two every once in a while or she's gonna run out of funds 

 

4 hours ago, hallucinate said:

i still don’t undersand why SM delayed everything  is there something going on behind the scenes?

it might have something to do with them not having enough money to pay producers or something, that's what i've heard anyway.

 

people here seem to forget they delayed red velvet's comeback too, why would SM be threatened by ive & newjeans in that case 

Edited September 11, 20224 yr by Billionaire

18 minutes ago, Eternium said:

t’s still too premature to know who will end up bigger, but the way this thread always paints Aespa as a failure in 2022 when they’re still #1 for digitals and physicals in September with just one comeback is almost comical. They’ve hit a point where they don’t have to fear anyone.

aespa sold 1.1M albums in just 7 days and have 1.1B+ Circle digital points in 2022 despite only 1 release this year, but apparently they're "over"

 

 

15 minutes ago, Flomik said:

where do you always find these iconic gifs

added to my favourites on imgur long time ago but it was probably from one of the previous threads

i make my own gifs sometimes tho

 

9 minutes ago, Billionaire said:

it might have something to do with them not having enough money to pay producers or something, that's what i've heard anyway.

 

people here seem to forget they delayed red velvet's comeback too, why would SM be threatened by ive & newjeans in that case 

they have several million selling groups, where is that money going  

20 minutes ago, xrosup said:

EXO's success was all smoke and mirrors but we're not ready for that conversation yet

 

EXO was the most streamed SM act of last year with a 5 track album, they are currently out streaming Dream, 127, Treasure and Ateez on Spotify all much newer groups who “sold millions” the first two stans bragging about 10 million in a year, they are the 2nd most streamed boy group on Melon and in the top 10 overall, have a 200M in tour grosa and they only had one “world tour” if that’s smoke and mirrors, god help us when these storages are exposed with millions of albums thrown in.

 

happy bday queen

I keep getting IVE stages on instagram and wonyoung lips bother me so much 

23 minutes ago, Hitchhiker said:

EXO was the most streamed SM act of last year with a 5 track album

This is just false.  Red Velvet, NCT Dream, NCT 127, and aespa got more streams last year. 

 

2021 Spotify streams for SM artists:

1. Next Level - 155m
2. Savage - 122m
3. Hot Sauce - 84m
4. Queendom - 79m
5. Dreams Come True - 69m
6. ZOO - 55m
7. Hello Future - 55m
8. Favourite - 44m
9. Bambi - 44m (Baekhyun outstreaming his whole group )
10. Weekend - 44m
11. Hello - 41m
12. Don't Fight the Feeling - 41m
13. Don't Call Me - 40m
14. Advice - 39m

They're getting the same amount of streams as SHINee (and SHINee gets more daily streams so they're going to overtake EXO soon).  I don't know who told you that EXO were the most streamed SM act of last year, but... you're very wrong. 

 

Congrats to EXO for getting a couple of streams on their older hits back when they were relevant. Great for a throwback!

Edited September 11, 20224 yr by Spark

2nd week in the top 10 

 

4 minutes ago, Spark said:

This is just false.  Red Velvet, NCT Dream, NCT 127, and aespa got more streams last year. 

 

2021 Spotify streams for SM artists:

1. Next Level - 155m
2. Savage - 122m
3. Hot Sauce - 84m
4. Queendom - 79m
5. Dreams Come True - 69m
6. ZOO - 55m
7. Hello Future - 55m
8. Favourite - 44m
9. Bambi - 44m (Baekhyun outstreaming his whole group )
10. Weekend - 44m
11. Hello - 41m
12. Don't Fight the Feeling - 41m
13. Don't Call Me - 40m
14. Advice - 39m

They're getting the same amount of streams as SHINee (and SHINee gets more daily streams so they're going to overtake EXO soon).  I don't know who told you that EXO were the most streamed SM act of last year, but... you're very wrong. 

 

Congrats to EXO for getting a couple of streams on their older hits back when they were relevant. Great for a throwback!

now this is just a lie though he is obviously talking about the whole discography

one exo song probably outstreams shinee 

EXO was huge idk why you guys keep trying to prove ortherwise, like what that would change?  it's pretty pointless

HAHAHA! 

EXO was huge and the #1 boy group until BTS appeared. NCT when was the #1 BG? never

 

EXO members are actually known by the gp in korea and also outside but no one cares about NCT members at all 

 

EXO wins in everything 

3 hours ago, Eternium said:

I’m a Britney stan, which means I’ve followed K-pop since before almost everyone here (2003). 
 

EXO had potential to be a force, but they fumbled the bag so quick. They were a laughing stock their first year like RV and NCT, but unlike them, EXO were over after 6 years.

6 years which makes more than 5 songs... 

 

25 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

they have several million selling groups, where is that money going  

SM is one of those companies that get investigated every year and make it seems it's usual for a big corporation to get investigated that frequently. I mean when the!ceo is know by the international authorithies for embezzlment, bribe and fraud. Plus he was exposed for having companies (under his name) where SM put money in it, but those companies never did nothing.

The NCT stans in here have become insufferable 

Coming for the likes of Red Velvet and EXO when at their prime they were both much much bigger than NCT ever were  

 

Edited September 11, 20224 yr by Billionaire

6 hours ago, Dark Horse said:

and so was f(x) with 4walls

RV is a legacy act at this point.

SM really fumbled the bag... and aespa is unlikely to lead gen4 at this rate

the historical revisionism 

but i'll let it slide since 4 Gods BOPS

 

these new girls couldnt

1 hour ago, xrosup said:

EXO's success was all smoke and mirrors but we're not ready for that conversation yet

 

The way y’all are not even trying to be creative with the trolling anymore

2 hours ago, Adama said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mention special:

 

 

 

 

SM was insane for this! They need to brings this energy and the real music for their new bg 

 

 

 

 

The way they started off with the cringy lore which went nowhere so they changed into GOOD music and the rest is history 

Just now, Sugden said:

now this is just a lie though he is obviously talking about the whole discography

one exo song probably outstreams shinee 

Just because you have more monthly listeners doesn't mean you get more streams, which is what the user said. It's not "obvious" because what the user said was just... false. 

 

Saying EXO has the 2nd amount highest amount of monthly listeners in SM is different to say they got the 2nd most streams in SM with a 5 track EP.  Their EP last year bombed on Spotify. This is a fact.

 

Again, EXO are a great nostalgia act. 

 

1 minute ago, Sorecer said:

HAHAHA! 

EXO was huge and the #1 boy group until BTS appeared. NCT when was the #1 BG? never

 

EXO members are actually known by the gp in korea and also outside but no one cares about NCT members at all 

 

EXO wins in everything 

True, BTS and NCT ended them. 

BTS and NCT didn't need to do fraud tactics like recording an album in two different languages with different member lineups and counting the sales as one either. 

 

Y'all can keep going on about "feeling", but the stats in 2022 (not 2013 - 2018) are with NCT. 

2 minutes ago, Billionaire said:

The NCT stans in here have become insufferable 

Coming for the likes of Red Velvet and EXO when at their prime they were both much much bigger than NCT ever were 

 

Yeah, that's why Red Velvet's career album sales are 2m, and NCT's 2020-present album sales are 20m.  

 

FACTS OVER FEELINGS 2022.

800k before release day? we can do it 

 

 

 

The Feels > TTT

 

 

who did NCT end? they dont have a single hit

EXO has Growl which is a national hit at this point

22 minutes ago, Spark said:

This is just false.  Red Velvet, NCT Dream, NCT 127, and aespa got more streams last year. 

 

2021 Spotify streams for SM artists:

1. Next Level - 155m
2. Savage - 122m
3. Hot Sauce - 84m
4. Queendom - 79m
5. Dreams Come True - 69m
6. ZOO - 55m
7. Hello Future - 55m
8. Favourite - 44m
9. Bambi - 44m (Baekhyun outstreaming his whole group )
10. Weekend - 44m
11. Hello - 41m
12. Don't Fight the Feeling - 41m
13. Don't Call Me - 40m
14. Advice - 39m

They're getting the same amount of streams as SHINee (and SHINee gets more daily streams so they're going to overtake EXO soon).  I don't know who told you that EXO were the most streamed SM act of last year, but... you're very wrong. 

 

Congrats to EXO for getting a couple of streams on their older hits back when they were relevant. Great for a throwback!

EXO was the most streamed SM act of last year: They are RIGHT 

 

Most streamed K-pop artists on Spotify in 2021: 

 

 

1. BTS

2. BLACKPINK 

3. TWICE

4. Stray Kids

5. TXT 

6. IU 

7. Seventeen 

8. ITZY 

9. EXO

10. Red Velvet 

11. ENHYPEN 

12. NCT Dream 

13. NCT 127 

14. (G)I-DLE 

15. ATEEZ 

16. Mamamoo 

17. BLACKPINK’s Rosé

18. DAY6 

19. BLACKPINK’s Lisa 

20. Agust D (BTS’ Suga) 

 

Most streamed K-pop groups on Spotify in 2021:

1. BTS

2. BLACKPINK 

3. TWICE

4. Stray Kids

5. TXT 

6. Seventeen 

7. ITZY 

8. EXO 

9. Red Velvet 

10. ENHYPEN 

11. NCT Dream

12. NCT 127 

13. (G)I-DLE 

14. ATEEZ

15. Mamamoo

16. DAY6

17. Monsta X 

18. GOT7

19. Loona 

20. SHINee

 

this thread has been crickets these past few days and scrolling through the last pages I know why. 

 

OT: Love Shot and The Eve are peak BG music.

12 minutes ago, getinthezone said:

who did NCT end? they dont have a single hit

EXO has Growl which is a national hit at this point

I see so many absurd takes in this thread that I’ve stopped indulging at this point 

does the public even know any NCT members that you’re coming for EXO out of all the bgs? 

Edited September 11, 20224 yr by Witnessed ET