We are going to need the YourMovieSucks and Jenny Nicholson reviews though

 

I gave Grace's video a spin and she definitely makes points. She's absolutely not an OGH, to be fair to her she's praised her multiple times on her channel before (even gave HoG praise in this video) and I really think she's just commenting on the trajectory of the film at it's current point. But she is absolutely pointing out some obvious cracks in Gaga's acting rhetoric. Not every actors career is made up of Oscar bait movies. It's easy now to say "this was never Oscar bait cause sequels don't tend to be" or whatever, but on paper when she signed up to this project (a sequel to a movie that received 11 Oscar nominations and grossed $1B+) it absolutely would have been a factor she took into consideration. And I guess as she pointed out in Hollywood realm, if you're seen trying too hard they almost don't want to give you it?

 

I will say her acting career absolutely isn't over, nor do I agree she's "Hollywood poison", and to be fair she also somewhat defends her against this label, by saying it's not her fault they chose to use her to sell the movie but then ultimately not have her in a lot of it. But if she wants her acting career to perhaps be taken more seriously (not that isn't already) it definitely wouldn't hurt to look into acting in smaller roles and non-Oscar bait films on a more frequent level, therefore having her name out there as a actress more prominently. I just found it funny, as someone who isn't much of a cinephile, to hear her talk about how her red carpet look was "too Gaga" and took away from the movie and the point of why they were there. It's just a completely different expectancy comparing the world of cinema to the world of music, even for a mega-star like her.

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I'm honestly not going to complain about a February release when we have the lead coming out in a few weeks

 

 

even if it's spaced out with breaks, I am not complaining about a 5 month+ album campaign. After the last era, I'm all for more content. 

11 minutes ago, hausofbryan said:

it's wild because another artist that's often below her on their spotify charts is getting so much support, the payola difference is really frustrating (no shade, but there's no other explanation for it)

 

I'm not that mad for Joker2 after a day. 

Its reality, sometimes you lose. 

She should pick better roles and scripts next time to fully commit herself and stay away from white heretosexual co lead men. 

 

Knowing she's happy makes me happy. Its what matters. And award season just started, some cute supporting actress noms can save the day and we can focus on the era. 

 

I'm sure she'll tour shortly after and do another movie just like  

Joanne tour ends - she shot asib 

Chromatica era ends - she shot house of gucci

Chromatica tour ends - she shot joker

 

 

7 minutes ago, sunbathinganimal said:

 

11 minutes ago, Edonis said:

I'm honestly not going to complain about a February release when we have the lead coming out in a few weeks

 

 

even if it's spaced out with breaks, I am not complaining about a 5 month+ album campaign. After the last era, I'm all for more content. 

I assume a second single will come before the album too. Gaga wants to stack on those pre-orders and SPS from the leads beforehand to ensure a big first week. I don't blame ha!

 

20 minutes ago, unison stan said:

why did she wait to launch LG7 this much? did she record only one album since 2019/2020? like taylor recorded and released 9 albums since chromatica and probably more is coming before LG7 also it's streaming era, 5 years break can easily ruin a mainstream career. she better milk the era this time or it's over 

most of Taylor's albums have literally been just her going into the studio and shoddily re-recording lol. No thought, no effort needed.

 

14 minutes ago, Jack! said:

I gave Grace's video a spin and she definitely makes points. She's absolutely not an OGH, to be fair to her she's praised her multiple times on her channel before (even gave HoG praise in this video) and I really think she's just commenting on the trajectory of the film at it's current point. But she is absolutely pointing out some obvious cracks in Gaga's acting rhetoric. Not every actors career is made up of Oscar bait movies. It's easy now to say "this was never Oscar bait cause sequels don't tend to be" or whatever, but on paper when she signed up to this project (a sequel to a movie that received 11 Oscar nominations and grossed $1B+) it absolutely would have been a factor she took into consideration. And I guess as she pointed out in Hollywood realm, if you're seen trying to hard they almost don't want to give you it?

 

I will say her acting career absolutely isn't over, nor do I agree she's "Hollywood poison", but if she wants her acting career to perhaps be taken more seriously (not that isn't already) it definitely wouldn't hurt to look into acting in smaller roles and non-Oscar bait films on a more frequent level, therefore having her name out there as a actress more prominently. I just found it funny, as someone who isn't much of a cinephile, to hear her talk about how her red carpet look was "too Gaga" and took away from the movie and the point of why they were there. It's just a completely different expectancy comparing the world of cinema to the world of music, even for a mega-star like her.

I'll have to watch later but this all feels very "grasping at straws" lol. Big-name actresses making grand entrances at their respective premieres have always been a thing?

 

If she called Gaga "Hollywood poison" then she's just flat-out being stupid as hell.  Every single movie she has been in has resulted in her being considered the best part.

13 minutes ago, Jack! said:

I gave Grace's video a spin and she definitely makes points. She's absolutely not an OGH, to be fair to her she's praised her multiple times on her channel before (even gave HoG praise in this video) and I really think she's just commenting on the trajectory of the film at it's current point. But she is absolutely pointing out some obvious cracks in Gaga's acting rhetoric. Not every actors career is made up of Oscar bait movies. It's easy now to say "this was never Oscar bait cause sequels don't tend to be" or whatever, but on paper when she signed up to this project (a sequel to a movie that received 11 Oscar nominations and grossed $1B+) it absolutely would have been a factor she took into consideration. And I guess as she pointed out in Hollywood realm, if you're seen trying too hard they almost don't want to give you it?

 

I will say her acting career absolutely isn't over, nor do I agree she's "Hollywood poison", and to be fair she also somewhat defends her against this label, by saying it's not her fault they chose to use her to sell the movie but then ultimately not have her in a lot of it. But if she wants her acting career to perhaps be taken more seriously (not that isn't already) it definitely wouldn't hurt to look into acting in smaller roles and non-Oscar bait films on a more frequent level, therefore having her name out there as a actress more prominently. I just found it funny, as someone who isn't much of a cinephile, to hear her talk about how her red carpet look was "too Gaga" and took away from the movie and the point of why they were there. It's just a completely different expectancy comparing the world of cinema to the world of music, even for a mega-star like her.

I guess, but I don't know how anyone can watch HoG and think that movie is Oscar bait.  Sure, Gaga campaigned and had buzz, but that's because her performance was praised and because of her name. The premise of the movie itself and its script was over-the-top and at times silly — Even the almost comedic sex scene near the start  Hardly something anyone truly thought was aiming for a Best Picture win.

 

Besides, it's not like she's ever going to have a film that people don't speculate about her awards prospects. It's no different than how almost anything Angelina Jolie does is tossed into the awards conversation because of her star power. You become a victim of your own success, but that shouldn't intimidate her. As long as she remains humble and supportive of her teams, the cast, and gracious when passed over, no one is going to be viewing her as "poison" — That kinda politics thinking in Hollywood is dying in the streaming era in the same way it is music. 

 

This isn't aimed at you, btw, more a response to her. (I don't think she was being negative either, FWIW.)

 

30 minutes ago, Human Fly said:

Grace basically said if you have Lady Gaga in it then its basically Lady Gaga movie and if you promote her as co lead since day 1, expectations should meet with it. 

I believe most people disappointed because of that certain reason. 

 

Her being such a big name also a curse in her hollywood acting career. 

 

So in the end Joker movie turns out to be Lady Gaga's movie, and Todd heavily cut her scenes because he didnt wanted this to be a lady gaga movie. 

 

And she said they shouldnt have premiered the movie this early or shouldve just premiered the first 40-50 mins and edit the rest of the movie closer to the premiere so you have time to edit it again depending on the narrative.

i agree with her pretty much about the last part, they shouldve tested the waters with the film premiere and then adjust it if necessary for the WW premiere 

Honestly wouldn't mind her going back to limited series. Like hop on a good Netflix series sis. Those tend to have more longevity & visibility these days. 

3 minutes ago, Sannie said:

most of Taylor's albums have literally been just her going into the studio and shoddily re-recording lol. No thought, no effort needed.

 

well she has released 5 brand new albums since traumatica  ga ga taking looooong breaks and not promoting her stuff are only damaging her career. we need to be fed with weirdoGa again 

1 minute ago, unison stan said:

well she has released 5 brand new albums since traumatica  ga ga taking looooong breaks and not promoting her stuff are only damaging her career. we need to be fed with weirdoGa again 

"only damaging her career" while she's currently sitting atop all the global streaming services and joker 2 is poised to pull in 130m first debut? can we be ******* real for a second.

 

1 minute ago, FameIsForever said:

Honestly wouldn't mind her going back to limited series. Like hop on a good Netflix series sis. Those tend to have more longevity & visibility these days. 

Honestly, some of the best work to come out of Hollywood is being released this way. I'd love to see her on an Apple TV series since they're always investing big money in good content.

6 minutes ago, Sannie said:

"only damaging her career" while she's currently sitting atop all the global streaming services and joker 2 is poised to pull in 130m first debut? can we be ******* real for a second.

 

Honestly, some of the best work to come out of Hollywood is being released this way. I'd love to see her on an Apple TV series since they're always investing big money in good content.

atp it doesn't seem likely to pull 130M ow, we should lower our expectations tbh

1 minute ago, Sannie said:

"only damaging her career" while she's currently sitting atop all the global streaming services and joker 2 is poised to pull in 130m first debut? can we be ******* real for a second.

 

she's nowhere in decade lists thanks to her not releasing anything but an abandoned album. also we don't really know what will be LG7's chart performance. her streaming numbers were serving katy perry before dwas   so it's clearly damaging 

2 minutes ago, unison stan said:

 

she's nowhere in decade lists thanks to her not releasing anything but an abandoned album. also we don't really know what will be LG7's chart performance. her streaming numbers were serving katy perry before dwas   so it's clearly damaging 

Sis, what's the reason for all of this?

 

I know you mean well, but Gaga is slaying left and right, even if JFAD got mixed reviews (as almost anyone could've guessed judging by the first movie's reviews.) She ain't releasing any faster just because of a concern about her "chart performance" that's apparently concerning enough that she's #8 on Spotify after 16 years in the industry. She'll be all good.

FWIW, I'd rather Gaga be the lead in a garbage movie than a side character in a mixed reviewed one. People want to see Gaga, not utilizing her and editing her down is criminal. What Im saying is Todd Philips is a nincompoop 

The dramatics over reviews when the movie isn't even out yet for the general public. I know I'm sarcastic most of the time but a lot of you always go off the deep end. Watch the movie and judge it for yourself instead of melting down over some critics. And that Grace person is reviewing something she hasn't even watched yet? This world we live in where we rely on other people's opinions of something is too much

7 minutes ago, oinkamaraj said:

atp it doesn't seem likely to pull 130M ow, we should lower our expectations tbh

Word and mouth might be good

Spoiler

It wont, but you never know 

 

I think we all can agree that MakeASong Polansky and Lady Gaga deserve to be having a nice evening right now. 

 

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18 minutes ago, FameIsForever said:

Honestly wouldn't mind her going back to limited series. Like hop on a good Netflix series sis. Those tend to have more longevity & visibility these days. 

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a good drama/psycho thriller series too.

Why y'all hates HOG? Her acting was really good and the only "bad" thing in that movie was Jared Leto + editing 

 

Spoiler

And maybe some Gaga's cringe moments on interviews 

 

42 minutes ago, Jack! said:

I gave Grace's video a spin and she definitely makes points. She's absolutely not an OGH, to be fair to her she's praised her multiple times on her channel before (even gave HoG praise in this video) and I really think she's just commenting on the trajectory of the film at it's current point. But she is absolutely pointing out some obvious cracks in Gaga's acting rhetoric. Not every actors career is made up of Oscar bait movies. It's easy now to say "this was never Oscar bait cause sequels don't tend to be" or whatever, but on paper when she signed up to this project (a sequel to a movie that received 11 Oscar nominations and grossed $1B+) it absolutely would have been a factor she took into consideration. And I guess as she pointed out in Hollywood realm, if you're seen trying too hard they almost don't want to give you it?

 

I will say her acting career absolutely isn't over, nor do I agree she's "Hollywood poison", and to be fair she also somewhat defends her against this label, by saying it's not her fault they chose to use her to sell the movie but then ultimately not have her in a lot of it. But if she wants her acting career to perhaps be taken more seriously (not that isn't already) it definitely wouldn't hurt to look into acting in smaller roles and non-Oscar bait films on a more frequent level, therefore having her name out there as a actress more prominently. I just found it funny, as someone who isn't much of a cinephile, to hear her talk about how her red carpet look was "too Gaga" and took away from the movie and the point of why they were there. It's just a completely different expectancy comparing the world of cinema to the world of music, even for a mega-star like her.

I think she made no points - how can she be Hollywood poison if she was underutilized in 2 films (more so this current one)? One of the biggest casting directors in Hollywood recently praised Gaga's performance in this film, saying before FaD, Gaga wasn't previously on her radar like that. Now she is. Also, big fashion is where it's at for actresses, if anything it improves their careers and visibility, like Anya Taylor Joy and Zendaya. I would conceed if she made points, but Grace likes to talk like an insider that knows everything about the business, when I really don't think she's got her eye on the zeitgeist like she thinks (plus, she at the end of the day she's a youtuber).  

2 minutes ago, Power&Control said:

Why y'all hates HOG? Her acting was really good and the only "bad" thing in that movie was Jared Leto + editing 

 

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And maybe some Gaga's cringe moments on interviews 

 

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