5 minutes ago, Negev said:

The lack of content, music and zero communication from Gaga pushed them over the edge. She's really quiet and is rightfully resting and enjoying life

 

Meditative queen. Maybe we could learn from her. Lemme stream 

 

Well, at least base hasn't hit page 2 in a minute 

2 minutes ago, EnigmaticAndroid said:

It's literally certified in 16 countries, double Hold My Hand. And its getting the streams it's getting 3 years after its release, not 1. One song has been in the recurrent phase for like 2 years, the other is just starting it. You're not making sense. 

 

Even if we want to consider Hold My Hand a moderate success, there's literally no logical argument that it's more of a success than Rain On Me. 

and thats what makes it a major smash  its getting streams its getting 3 years later on par with the supposed so called flop b/c it was a frontloaded hit, thats all it was. a recently new global smash song should not be getting outstreamed and outviewed by way older actual singles and audio pages 

 

the chart run in basically almost all the markets were abominable, dropping off like rocks after its quick lil peak, heck even HMH outlasted in a few  

10 hours ago, Jessie said:

Not those visualisers gagging me a bit. It goes to show just how strong her iconography was at her peak that some of the same concepts / visuals I’ve imagined for those songs are so similar to what they created (so many men being murdered sksksk).

 

And honestly that mummy dancing scene in Monster in front of a huge temple? Her heart getting eaten in a graveyard? Truly would have cemented The Fame Monster as her Thriller serve. 
 

 

She can always steal these ideas for the darkpop LG7

We went from having global smash hits to comparing which one of her singles is the bigger flop when in reality both of them are flops... Where are the dark bawps when you need them the most?

The Top Gun editors are to blame for Hold My Hand’s underperformance. The song should have played earlier in the movie. Instead of being a credit song. 

The One Republic song got to play during the sexy beach scene. In the original, TMBA played in the middle of the movie. 

At least Gaga received composer credits because HMH. They used it all over the score. She is already one of the most financially successful female composers because of that song 

I’m 50/50 on HMH. Its a decent track, on one hand it should’ve got more push bc TG was obvs gonna be huge. On the other hand I’m glad it wasn’t heavily pushed – prob would’ve inspired her to continue this OST/ballad route. 
 

Hopefully Joker inspired her to bring the RAH RAH back with a more mature aesthetic.

6 hours ago, hausofdave said:

6M+ debut -> ~900k

900k debut -> ~300k 

 

ah yes ROM the so called major hit that was originally suppose to hit 1B+ back by its first anniversary until it suddenly dropped to the edge of no tomorrow, now 3 years later, pathetically crawling its way to the benchmark when other major female collabs have already reach past the threshold, lets not even talk about its abominable YT recurrent streams unlike Hold My Oscar steadily decline that’s pale in comparison 

No offense but these are nothing to brag about when HMH's success is infinitesimal compared to her soulful ballads like Shallow and ARUTW. HMH was a humbling experience that proved that the GP are not going to eat up any ballad by Gaga. The GP wants QUALITY ballads from Gaga like ARUTW not some soulless pop produced ballad that fails to have its "Here I Go Again" rock moment. 

 

I LOVE LOVE LOVE HAC Gaga. ARUTW is easily one the best songs of her discography. Shallow is so beautifully written and will be remembered even 100 years from now. I'll Never Love Again has one of her most beautiful vocals to date. Dope and Speechless are gut wrenching. Million Reasons is extremely relatable. Hold My Hand on the other hand...sounds like a song that AI generated at a McDonalds factory. 

 

If I can compare HMH to any of her pop songs it would definitely be Stupid Love. Both are vapid and soulless.

 

 

6 hours ago, EnigmaticAndroid said:

It's literally certified in 16 countries, double Hold My Hand. And its getting the streams it's getting 3 years after its release, not 1. One song has been in the recurrent phase for like 2 years, the other is just starting it. You're not making sense. 

 

Even if we want to consider Hold My Hand a moderate success, there's literally no logical argument that it's more of a success than Rain On Me. 

The ENORMOUS elephant in the room that everyone is conveniently ignoring is that, what if HMH wasn't attached to Top Gun? I remember an AC Youtuber reviewer pointed this out and this base got mad but he didn't lie in that the song isn't as good as her previous ballads and it wouldn't have made any noise if it weren't attached to Top Gun unless Gaga did some promo for it. We all know that Gaga's singles usually need a "helping hand" and thats not a bad thing at all. Million Reasons became more successful after the SuperBowl. Shallow became more successful after the Oscar win.

 

I will say the Gaga Ballad with the most ORGANIC success is hands down Always Remember Us This Way (She's just THAT *****). Aside from the film, the song was able to have its own success without Gaga lifting a finger! It was never released a single and yet the GP still said YES. It's beautifully written, her vocals are so charismatic and it's relatable. Imagine if it were actually a single  Can you imagine the streams it would have by now? ARUTW is the AC template Gaga needs to follow and not HMH which is McDonalds quality.

Did everyone try Chromatica oreos? I thought Chromatica oreos were lovely

21 hours ago, hausofdave said:

Hold My Oscar stable across all platforms after more than one year of release unlike all her last album's singles, why?

 

 

 

17 hours ago, Vroom Vroom said:

Gaga ballads always receive good stable streaming numbers years after being released. Her dance pops can’t relate. 
Once Speechless goes viral it will be her biggest hit 

this video from yesterday doing numbers, 410k views

 

 

1 hour ago, Marry The Gods said:

I LOVE LOVE LOVE HAC Gaga. ARUTW is easily one the best songs of her discography. Shallow is so beautifully written and will be remembered even 100 years from now. I'll Never Love Again has one of her most beautiful vocals to date. Dope and Speechless are gut wrenching. Million Reasons is extremely relatable. Hold My Hand on the other hand...sounds like a song that AI generated at a McDonalds factory. 

 

If I can compare HMH to any of her pop songs it would definitely be Stupid Love. Both are vapid and soulless.

 

 

nnnnnn this is a bit much.

 

We all know HMH isn't her best ballad but it's still a good and well-written song. It's unfair to say Gaga put no soul into it given how excited she was about it's release and how much she tweeted about the lyrics.

 

The GP isn't always going to eat up every Gaga ballad/single and that's okay. We're also forgetting that it actually smashed for a soundtrack. Soundtracks don't normally hit near Top 40 (let alone the Hot 100) and rack up millions of views and streams.

 

As always, stans put these unfair standards on Gaga like assuming this song should have been another Shallow just because it was attached to Top Gun. That audience did not go to see a Tom Cruise military porn flick for the music.  

1 hour ago, Marry The Gods said:

No offense but these are nothing to brag about when HMH's success is infinitesimal compared to her soulful ballads like Shallow and ARUTW. HMH was a humbling experience that proved that the GP are not going to eat up any ballad by Gaga. The GP wants QUALITY ballads from Gaga like ARUTW not some soulless pop produced ballad that fails to have its "Here I Go Again" rock moment. 

Rom w/ Ariana is the only ‘PopGa’ song that fans liked with good overall streams released in streaming era - even katy has Harley’s and NRO either with good overall streams or good daily streams. So, with that in mind she has indeed a knack for ballads. She should still do things that pleases fans but if it’s bop music the production  choices will be crucial or if it’s an album a range of singles need choosing.  MR HMH ARUTW all have terrible playlisting. Speechless and esp Gypsy deserve for not being picked as singles @Vroom Vroom

1 minute ago, Mr. Stratus said:

Rom w/ Ariana is the only ‘PopGa’ song that fans liked with good overall streams released in streaming era - even katy has Harley’s and NRO either with good overall streams or good daily streams. So, with that in mind she has indeed a knack for ballads. She should still do things that pleases fans but if it’s bop music the production  choices will be crucial or if it’s an album a range of singles need choosing.  MR HMH ARUTW all have terrible playlisting. Speechless and esp Gypsy deserve for not being picked as singles @Vroom Vroom

I do agree with you but I feel like her best bops and her best ballads are when she's not trying to appease to any audience but herself. ROM and HMH are very different from each other but they both felt like they were tossing around between catering to the GP and catering to Gaga fans. I know Gaga has a lot of creative freedom but I cant help but feel like at times she's often pressured by her label and other entities where they come in and pressure her on what will be more marketable. And I get it...Music is a business but Gaga is at a point in her career where she's already solidified herself as an A list household name and one of the biggest people in the music industry. Realistically I think LG7 will be a mix batched of dance pop songs and ballads but I'm hoping for something more out of her element even if its only in a couple songs. 

 

 

where is the chromatica ball movie

Next IG post: “After watching the final TCB film we’ve created I’ve decided that this was a really tough time for me and I’ve decided to move forward with my creative journey and leave that part of my life in the past.”

I like Hold My Hand more than Rain On Me. What now?

Would actually be funny for her to announce it tomorrow and say it’s coming out in a week (which would be July 17). Realistically I’m sure they’d want at least a few weeks lead up 

50 minutes ago, Devin said:

Next IG post: “After watching the final TCB film we’ve created I’ve decided that this was a really tough time for me and I’ve decided to move forward with my creative journey and leave that part of my life in the past.”

I wish she said something like that regarding ARTPOP so that liddos can stop crying about ACT II 

4 hours ago, Marry The Gods said:

No offense but these are nothing to brag about when HMH's success is infinitesimal compared to her soulful ballads like Shallow and ARUTW. HMH was a humbling experience that proved that the GP are not going to eat up any ballad by Gaga. The GP wants QUALITY ballads from Gaga like ARUTW not some soulless pop produced ballad that fails to have its "Here I Go Again" rock moment. 

 

I LOVE LOVE LOVE HAC Gaga. ARUTW is easily one the best songs of her discography. Shallow is so beautifully written and will be remembered even 100 years from now. I'll Never Love Again has one of her most beautiful vocals to date. Dope and Speechless are gut wrenching. Million Reasons is extremely relatable. Hold My Hand on the other hand...sounds like a song that AI generated at a McDonalds factory. 

 

If I can compare HMH to any of her pop songs it would definitely be Stupid Love. Both are vapid and soulless.

 

No offense but MR relatable my a***, the only reason its faired decently was because of the nonstop promotion it had, 36791292417x performances, discounts, not to mention her last single to receive actual radio PR payola. b-b-but no TTH  as if playlisting it during its single run could save its pathetic short faith. the song's somewhat local success was driven by EXTREME efforts to push it and the release of ASIB later that significantly boosted its recurrent stats, not because it's a natural hit. its the definition of a inorganic, try-hard, cockroached bland song. MR was the first ballad that proved that the GP wouldn't give flying rats about a horse-croacked ballad if she didn't continuously shove that song down our throats like no tomorrow

This whole narrative in this base that she either needs to go direction A - Pop/DanceGa; or B - HAC/BalladsGa needs to die. It's so limiting to Gaga's talent and there are countless sounds out there left for her to explore.

Wow things are getting real in here.

Yeah CBM is coming on July 17