I feel like Blue dancing on this tour is good for her sense of self/growth in her art, so it doesn't really feel like some forced nepotism moment for me. 

 

If Blue was dropping and performing her own music on the tour it'd potentially be a different conversation. 

Nepotism is what Hailey Bieber has - privilige through birth with 0 actual talent.

Same goes for the Kardashians or North West. 0 talent, 0 work ethic, just pure granted privilige.

 

Blue CLEARLY works behind the scenes and puts in the work to get better. Her stage presence at 13 years old is already better than that of Selena Gomez. Yes, she has privilege, but she works towards improving and actually has to deliver to get her does (thanks Mama Bey). 

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Blue Ivy is getting overrepresented in the press and clips from this tour because people LOVE seeing her on the stage.

 

in reality, she's not in the spotlight for more than 4-5 minutes out of the full 3 hour (Protector, AHAP, Deja Vu). the rest of the show she's either in the background with all the other dancers, or sometimes she's fully absent.

 

the crowds are not "pissed" at Blue being featured at all. she gets the loudest cheers and applause from the crowd. remember — most people go to these shows once or twice and don't follow every night like some of us are. people are NOT tired of seeing Blue and Rumi. they are touched and celebrate the girls. it's only bum gays on atrl that have a problem with it.

5 hours ago, Devin said:

why would the dancers be upset abt the headliner's fam doing they job? they getting a check for doing less work now lol.

some of us love art and like to do the art without nepotismo getting in the way. It's ******* insulting

47 minutes ago, Mr.X said:

some of us love art and like to do the art without nepotismo getting in the way. It's ******* insulting

Don't watch it then if you're so offended.

58 minutes ago, Mr.X said:

some of us love art and like to do the art without nepotismo getting in the way. It's ******* insulting

If you're insulted by Blue Ivy dancing, you've got major issues that stem from something else, cause... 

9 hours ago, Mr.X said:

would rather have the dancers doing their thing rather than blatant nepotismo being pushed around a 13year old who isn't even that great at it. 

 

If I was a dancer on that tour I would be pissed off too

weirdo behavior. if her kid wants to be a part of it theres nothing wrong with that.

 

beyonce will quit this **** and go be a full time mom in a heartbeat. she dgaf about all this. her KIDS are her life now. 

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7 hours ago, Devin said:

most ppl attending are paying $300-2000 to see HER not the carter fam. so i can see where its frustrating. 

7 hours ago, Jay07 said:

Exactly. I understand why she wants them as part of the show and moments like Protector are sweet. But having Blue featured so heavily, especially for Deja Vu seems like she's trying to create the next generation of the Carter dynasty on the backs of people who paid to see her.

y'all act like blue got herself a whole set in the middle of the show. shes in the front for 15 seconds during AHAP and then has a 45 second solo with deja vu. the remainder of the show shes a backup dancer like the rest. its a THREE HOUR show. there's plenty of beyonce. my god lol

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1 hour ago, Mr.X said:

some of us love art and like to do the art without nepotismo getting in the way. It's ******* insulting

Do you really think that one single dancer on that stage (many of whom have known Blue and rehearsed alongside her for years) has any resentment that she gets the spotlight for 60 seconds of her mother's three hour show? 

Never mind Beyonce being compared to JUST black girlies anymore. She's also compared to the white ones too to sometimes an even greater degree!!! 
 

Like these MFers cannot wrap their mind around a black woman being 10x better than their faves - male or female. White or black. They don't GET IT.

 

And then you have a bunch of the black community acting "confused" as to why some of these RnB girlies aren't "popping off" when they KEEP sticking to the same RnB sound. Beyoncé wasn't like that and obviously knew in order to fully dominate the industry you HAVE to completely change the game. And lucky enough Beyoncé had the talent to do so. 
 

Beyoncé has managed to do something I don't think any artist in history really has. I don't think we have seen this level of evolution through artistry, performance, and longevity with anyyyy mainstream artist. Ever. For her to literally and FACTUALLY be better than 99% of these people and even especially the new breeds is what doesn't sit right with ANYONEEE. She's literally Pandora's box.  

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@Teezy downvoting everyone again.

1 hour ago, yonsé said:

y'all act like blue got herself a whole set in the middle of the show. shes in the front for 15 seconds during AHAP and then has a 45 second solo with deja vu. the remainder of the show shes a backup dancer like the rest. its a THREE HOUR show. there's plenty of beyonce. my god lol

but ms x said the ppl want bey only. keep them kids in school. 

Spoiler

11 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Blue is murdering the stage during AHAP tho. She dances just as fiercely as any background dancer, so theres that. Blue is the heir we deserve and have to push! No other ***** will be able to fill the hole Bey will leave, so we gotta act strategic 

I think it's really cool to see her dance, especially how much better she's gotten. I think it's interesting how people treat her though. Because she's Beyoncé's daughter, will y'all automatically stan her without any notable talent? 

11 hours ago, Mr.X said:

would rather have the dancers doing their thing rather than blatant nepotismo being pushed around a 13year old who isn't even that great at it. 

 

If I was a dancer on that tour I would be pissed off too

I would rather see Honey and the ballroom scene than Blue dancing to Deja Vu. But that's just my opinion!

9 hours ago, Lose My Breath said:

Yuck, why are you here?

 

 

9 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

i don't like the whole family stick either but i'd rather see her perform with blue than with him so i'll take it ig 

 

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9 hours ago, Devin said:

i love seeing the kids as cameo appearances or interlude dance offs. but there should be a balance.

 

most ppl attending are paying $300-2000 to see HER not the carter fam. so i can see where its frustrating. 

Yea, balance is important. I don't think it's over the top. But… if Blue continues to be part of every concert/live performance, maybe even singing on albums, and in visuals I personally would find that to be a peculiar choice 

8 hours ago, Blumoon said:

How could Beyonces dancers be pissed off? Blue has been in the choreo since the beginning, she is apart of the show. If theyre mad its entitlement to being more featured despite it NOT being the artists vision.

I 100% imagine some dancers have resentment towards Blue taking someone's spot when she's not trained

8 hours ago, Jay07 said:

Exactly. I understand why she wants them as part of the show and moments like Protector are sweet. But having Blue featured so heavily, especially for Deja Vu seems like she's trying to create the next generation of the Carter dynasty on the backs of people who paid to see her.

I think it makes sense that Bey would want to push her own daughter. She's clearly tried making other artists happen. But my question is, what talent does Blue possess (vocally mainly!). I'm curious if she's going to be a Tinashe or a Beyoncé 

8 hours ago, Devin said:

why would the dancers be upset abt the headliner's fam doing they job? they getting a check for doing less work now lol.

Imagine a different job, a cleaning business. The manager starts taking their kid on the job and instead of taking the usual 2 employees, now they only take 1 because the kid can fill the other spot. The rest of the cleaners probably want that spot for themselves.

8 hours ago, Chris said:

Blue Ivy can be in ALL of Beyonce's shows.

 

That's her f*cking child.

 

Period.

We all know she can be. Same with Jay Z. He can be in all of Beyoncé's shows. The question is do we want that? At least Jay Z is an established artist!

8 hours ago, alien superstore said:

Blue has been heavily incorporated into Beyonce's projects since 2013 in Self-Titled. Nobody who's a current fan of Beyonce is put off by her presence enough for it to affect her continued inclusion. I personally don't think showbiz is a safe place for kids to be, and I don't think I'd want my own kids on stage, but I do think the fleeting moments Blue gets on this tour (and they really are fleeting) are special and cool, and it's all a bit of fun in the end! If there was an OTR III and it was Bey and Blue as joint headliners then we'd be having a different convo, but this feels fine imho. And this is coming from someone who also doesn't love the family show vibe. But seeing the tour last night convinced me that - at least live - it really works.

Idk about heavily incorporated, but we stan Blue ft Blue Ivy in this household

7 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

The way yall will switch when Ms Blue will serve vocals at the age of 16-17 because she's been secretly taking vocal lessons ever since she was 8

 

The Hive is so 2000 and late.

Ivy League is the FUTURE

 

 

If anyone could turn someone into a superstar it would be Beyoncé

7 hours ago, Titanbaddie said:

Only Beyonce stans would sit here and complain about a literal 120 second dance break from Beyonce's oldest daughter in a 2 Hour and 45 minute stage show. 

 

Y'all are so damn spoiled 

7 hours ago, Blumoon said:

People want Blues segment replaced with background dancers people didnt pay to see either.  Beyonce is not physically on stage 100 percent of the time.  Some other part of the show (dancers, singers or instrumentalist) would take that space when Beys changing or breaking.  Its fine that its Blue.

It's fine, but is it the best option!

7 hours ago, TizTiz said:

I totally understand ppl's gripe with her including the children as permanent piece of the show, but I'm part of the fraction who don't mind. 
 

- As someone stated, they're not completely intertwined into the threading of the full show.  Yes, Big Boss Blue has advanced from the 15 minute routine "MY POWER/BLACK PARADE", but it's only bits and pieces. Though I don't understand having her constantly switching on & off stage during certain songs that could be inappropriate when it would make sense just have her deliver 30-45 minutes and disappear from the show, but I digress. Blues the manager here! 

- She's noticed the girls desire to take part in her work life that could lead to them trailing into showbiz. There's no better way to show them the ropes than to have them step into her world firsthand. She's made it know she wants to focus on them, as they're growing up, so this is her avenue for continuing to tour while spending time with them. 
 

- For some reason, she's performed this particular tour on the 'safe' side. Adding the kids is simply just an added bonus in my eyes. From the songs she chose to bring back, the choreo, wardrobe, she's pretty much catered to a more family friendly environment this particular tour, which brings me to my only opposing point.

 

- In my eyes, their children only create the small issue to where she's not as 'sexy' with them here. Looking back at "PARTITION", "PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA" & "THIQUE", now "DESERT EAGLE", "Crazy in Love" & "II HANDS II HEAVEN", they're too tamed and easily corky. I think with the children so keen into the show, it takes away from certain moments, because her mind is still in Mommy Mode. 
 

But that's it, Blue can stay, she continue to get better and be a real problem❗️

 

Let's wake it up. Would we have ever gotten the Partition chair sequence from MCWST, if blue was dancing on stage for a lot of the numbers? I don't want her to hold back because her teen daughter is off watching in the wings while she straddles a sofa

3 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Nepotism is what Hailey Bieber has - privilige through birth with 0 actual talent.

Same goes for the Kardashians or North West. 0 talent, 0 work ethic, just pure granted privilige.

 

Blue CLEARLY works behind the scenes and puts in the work to get better. Her stage presence at 13 years old is already better than that of Selena Gomez. Yes, she has privilege, but she works towards improving and actually has to deliver to get her does (thanks Mama Bey). 

Tbh Blue is showing a lot of progress, imagine where she'll be at 5 years from now

3 hours ago, kimberly said:

Blue Ivy is getting overrepresented in the press and clips from this tour because people LOVE seeing her on the stage.

 

in reality, she's not in the spotlight for more than 4-5 minutes out of the full 3 hour (Protector, AHAP, Deja Vu). the rest of the show she's either in the background with all the other dancers, or sometimes she's fully absent.

 

the crowds are not "pissed" at Blue being featured at all. she gets the loudest cheers and applause from the crowd. remember — most people go to these shows once or twice and don't follow every night like some of us are. people are NOT tired of seeing Blue and Rumi. they are touched and celebrate the girls. it's only bum gays on atrl that have a problem with it.

I agree, remember the halftime performance. The audience lit up when they realized Blue was dancing during Texas Hold Em

 

5 hours ago, nooniebao said:

 

 

 

DESERVES 

6 hours ago, Kisuke said:

I feel like Young Money is behind the smear campaign 

Sddddddddddddddddddd

 

now see..

The black community are just as weird as the non black community when it comes to Beyonce. I don't get comparing Beyonce to the other early 2000's R&B Women when Beyonce was clearly molded after Tina Turner and MJ. Some dumbo on twitter said Beyonce was molded after Amerie. They are actually serious too. 

Not y'all in here complaining about blue ivy dancing during an outfit change. People definitely pay to see Blue Ivy my sister was one of them last tour. And if we are being 100% honest Blue gets a louder pop than Beyonce does at any point in the show sksk.

a bunch of grown [gay] men crying bc she's bringing her daughters on stage, pls seek help 

I just rewatched OTRII and forgot how every song they both performed was a HIT. That concert was not just for stans but casuals. It was upbeat the entire time. May be a top 3 tour from her but y'all don't want to hear it. Also, the best visuals from any tour. Boop!

 

 

3 hours ago, futuresuperstar2023 said:

The black community are just as weird as the non black community when it comes to Beyonce. I don't get comparing Beyonce to the other early 2000's R&B Women when Beyonce was clearly molded after Tina Turner and MJ. Some dumbo on twitter said Beyonce was molded after Amerie. They are actually serious too. 

I've seen miles long Twitter threads with people going back and forth about whether Crazy in Love ripped off One thing even though the latter truly came later by 2 years

The best thing you guys can do is stop letting your blood pressure shoot up when you see those posts. These people are the minority; they're loud, miserable, and usually really stupid.

 

We're going to be fighting the water wars in thirty years, and some old ***** next to you is still gonna be saying Ashanti deserved Bey's success while we're all hiding in our wildfire tornado shelters.  It's just not that serious.

 

 

So I ended up with a ticket in section 122 and I'm more than happy with that and to just be there after being in Club Renaissance on the last tour. 

But does B ever come over to her left hand side (i.e what songs) near this section?  

 

Does anyone have opening times for Tottenham Hotspur shop, I've heard that it's open before, during and after the show to buy merch ? Any pics of what merch is available and prices too. 

7 hours ago, Anvarie said:

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I think it's really cool to see her dance, especially how much better she's gotten. I think it's interesting how people treat her though. Because she's Beyoncé's daughter, will y'all automatically stan her without any notable talent? 

I would rather see Honey and the ballroom scene than Blue dancing to Deja Vu. But that's just my opinion!

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Yea, balance is important. I don't think it's over the top. But… if Blue continues to be part of every concert/live performance, maybe even singing on albums, and in visuals I personally would find that to be a peculiar choice 

I 100% imagine some dancers have resentment towards Blue taking someone's spot when she's not trained

I think it makes sense that Bey would want to push her own daughter. She's clearly tried making other artists happen. But my question is, what talent does Blue possess (vocally mainly!). I'm curious if she's going to be a Tinashe or a Beyoncé 

Imagine a different job, a cleaning business. The manager starts taking their kid on the job and instead of taking the usual 2 employees, now they only take 1 because the kid can fill the other spot. The rest of the cleaners probably want that spot for themselves.

We all know she can be. Same with Jay Z. He can be in all of Beyoncé's shows. The question is do we want that? At least Jay Z is an established artist!

Idk about heavily incorporated, but we stan Blue ft Blue Ivy in this household

If anyone could turn someone into a superstar it would be Beyoncé

It's fine, but is it the best option!

Let's wake it up. Would we have ever gotten the Partition chair sequence from MCWST, if blue was dancing on stage for a lot of the numbers? I don't want her to hold back because her teen daughter is off watching in the wings while she straddles a sofa

Tbh Blue is showing a lot of progress, imagine where she'll be at 5 years from now

I agree, remember the halftime performance. The audience lit up when they realized Blue was dancing during Texas Hold Em

 

Its interesting reading ur take because u decisively say Blue isn't talented and thats where ur apprehension comes from.

 

I would argue she clearly is talented because it takes star quality to perform the way she does in front of 50k people at that age. You cannot teach the things shes already doing naturally + shes already dancing better at 13 than Bey did at that age. 

The argument of the dancers feeling some type of way is also bs since they are the ones spending time with Blue and teaching her + they are getting paid for it.