benyonce Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 26 minutes ago, Space&Time said: I disagree. I do believe there IS irreparable damage already done, yes, but it is up to Jay to defend his good name and his family. If he proves in court that this attorney and the plaintiff are liars and extortionist and wins a counter suit he can then speak out once the facts prevail in an extremely public way to clear his name in a way no one can disagree with. Ya'll have watch alleged pedos go down, but you haven't watched falsely alleged pedo's win. Many of you have no faith nor imagination. If he guilty, **** him, but if he not, some of you all will deserve the blame for going along with the smear campaign without any check and balances. I certainly hope this is true. In the age of social media, false news and click bait headlines dictating the direction of a large portion of the public's sentiment (the ones who aren't able to think critically) I fear it may be. either way I am not the one you are referring to in your last sentence, at most I'll post a few times in the base and keep it moving. 1
ToraeGilt Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Draper. said: I have to say… I expected this to get bigger, it seems like most people are actually waiting to see how this develops. I was just about to say this. When it first dropped I was like "wow"! There's no coming back from this but surprisingly it didn't get as much traction as I thought it would. I feel like majority of the noise is from folks who already thought he was guilty of something even before this came to fruition. 1
Cbreezy Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 21 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: This felt inevitable tbh Why, btw? I'm not even being shady, I'm legitimately curious. Why did it feel..."inevitable"? 1
ShouldersSideways Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 11 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: Why, btw? I'm not even being shady, I'm legitimately curious. Why did it feel..."inevitable"? I'm not going to speculate on the truth of the lawsuit one way or another, but ever since the Diddy thing happened I figured someone would accuse Jay eventually.
ToraeGilt Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 If anyone is interested in following the case https://x.com/meghanncuniff/status/1866237999249330489?s=46&t=ebj4mmcBA-bBmUmQ0P2ONQ 2
Kisuke Posted December 9, 2024 Author Posted December 9, 2024 They seem to be speeding it up. Also seems like B is walking the red carpet for Lk.
bijonse Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 1 hour ago, benyonce said: The timing of her first live performance in YEARS being two weeks after this is really sad. I can only imagine what is going on with her and her teams minds at these rehearsals. I feel most sad for Blue and the kids. I'll tell you one thing for free, I ain't dying on a hill defending Jay Z of all people. If he is found guilty, let him rot and Bey better make her choices accordingly or face (deserved) backlash. Until then, I will continue to think it is disgusting that Bey cops the brunt of the flack, for a males vile behaviour. MTEEEEEEE. The hive acting like we owe him allegiance or something is nuts it's the BEYhive not the CARTERhive. I wish she just never took his last name at all btw Beyoncé Knowles is way more ***** than the hyphen name 4
mariposa Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 yeah this will all be wrapped up by Friday https://www.instagram.com/mstinaknowles/p/DDX5GeBSlDr/?hl=en
Lose My Breath Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 Glad he's asking to speed up the process, the longer thus continues, the more damaging, not to mention I assume Beyonce has projects that could be hampered by this
Burn Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 (edited) You know what... we forget that this is news to us, not them. This extortion has been going on for months. They would have known about it when the Netflix halftime show was announced only a few weeks ago and been prepared for the possibility of him being named in the lawsuit since they weren't giving into the blackmail. Of course the show will go ahead. Just like it looks the Mufasa premiere is going to tonight. A united front is exactly what they should show. Business as usual. Edited December 9, 2024 by Burn 4 3
satellites.™ Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 Lot of thoughts on this, first and foremost I hope it's not true. The timing of this release feels very selective and makes me shake my head and wonder. That said, if he is guilty and there is evidence, she needs to make a clean break with herself and the children, if there is none, maybe the Carter fist of vengeance be fierce, because this is not the sort of thing you play with in the courts of the USA when we live in a world where "lawsuit" means true to most people. It's the sort of stain that stays with a person, but a lot of small details I want to connect to this. Jay's NFL connection and the fallout --> Drake/Wayne/Nicki diss + Kendrick Endorsement --> Jealousy and media games --> Drake pointing the finger at ANOTHER person in their Diddy friend group, these people all party TOGETHER! (+ Kanye fallout) I bet Bey has known this was coming for a long time and just didn't know the big details, I bet she already has a plan, but I dont know if she the timing of it and that is what is the worst. She could RISK being booed aloud in a stadium of Americans, and have a Janet moment in her 40's too. Like, this is already equivalent to MJ having his media circus over allegations that followed him to his grave. I don't think she deserves his backlash, but NFL crowds right now in the US are Trumpers and she is a known Kamala girl too, these connections in those communities matter and the media would love to see a black woman of Beyonces level be booed live as a "dig" against the elite, but in reality, it's to humble a woman, a black woman especially. I don't like this! 3
Space&Time Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 52 minutes ago, bijonse said: MTEEEEEEE. The hive acting like we owe him allegiance or something is nuts it's the BEYhive not the CARTERhive. I wish she just never took his last name at all btw Beyoncé Knowles is way more ***** than the hyphen name I don't think you have to be carterhive. People in this very thread are calling Beyonce's judgement into question due to her adjacentcy to Jay-Z. Beyoncé is a good person and when it comes to matters of "crisis" has generally always landed on the right side. I think assuming she married a rapist and will stand by him is calling her character and judgement into question. Beyoncé fans should not have to feel compelled to disparage Jay-z in an effort to delineate his alleged behavior from her. I think it's rash, and at worst presumptuous. In other words, considering what we've been presented there is nothing wrong with reserving judgement until this matter is settled.
Lose My Breath Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 14 minutes ago, Burn said: You know what... we forget that this is news to us, not them. This extortion has been going on for months. They would have known about it when the Netflix halftime show was announced only a few weeks ago and been prepared for the possibility of him being named in the lawsuit since they weren't giving into the blackmail. Of course the show will go ahead. Just like it looks the Mufasa premiere is going to tonight. A united front is exactly what they should show. Business as usual. Right, they received the letter in early November about a mediation. 1
Lose My Breath Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 14 minutes ago, Burn said: You know what... we forget that this is news to us, not them. This extortion has been going on for months. They would have known about it when the Netflix halftime show was announced only a few weeks ago and been prepared for the possibility of him being named in the lawsuit since they weren't giving into the blackmail. Of course the show will go ahead. Just like it looks the Mufasa premiere is going to tonight. A united front is exactly what they should show. Business as usual. Right, they received the letter in early November about a mediation.
Starshine Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 She is NOT getting booed at her halftime in her hometown of Houston. The Hive bought those resale tickets up. 1 1
suneclipse121 Posted December 10, 2024 Posted December 10, 2024 2 minutes ago, Starshine said: She is NOT getting booed at her halftime in her hometown of Houston. The Hive bought those resale tickets up. Ima be in there cheering for my girl. But I can't lie and say I'm not a little concerned. The crowd is mostly a football crowd first and foremost not a Beyoncé tour crowd. And the way tensions are sky high in this country I wouldn't put anything out of reach. I think a negative reaction from the crowd is a small but valid possibility. They are already mad at her for going country and her politics and then toss these allegations in the mix…Don't underestimate a perfect storm.
Triton Posted December 10, 2024 Posted December 10, 2024 Eh… he didn't need to release a statement. Just keep it moving faster, close it up and then make a quick PR statement after he's cleared his name and brought that lawyer to shambles. They shouldn't keep low, keep things going as normal, maybe include some more "family man" leaks here and there and remind people of what he's done for the community, some donations to help out with press if needed but keep up appearances to drown this out. Going fully silent would be bad but also don't want to respond right away. The young man line was a lol though. I'm kind of glad we can see Jay release all his fury, like truly go and be the big honcho everyone claims he is and use all his resources to win that case. Obviously not the ideal circumstances but finally be that boss everyone cries about. As far as the victim, nobody knows what went on that night and they better be prepared with their lawyer. Filing a second suit after the first one didn't work is fishy AF. Glad Jay called out the civil vs criminal suit. Now Beyonce is media trained so she won't get any questions about it but hopefully this pushes her to release more work related things, the HT show will be great to drown this, Mufasa also great for the family, just keep the head high, drown the stories with other appearances and media. 1
Fleahive Posted December 10, 2024 Posted December 10, 2024 3 hours ago, Space&Time said: 100% Hive needs to wake it up. They have been out for this man and projecting rape and pedophilia on him mainly because they've been influenced by a prophetess on YouTube who wears a ******* table cloth on top of her quick weave. A lot of times, with actors like Diddy and R Kelly where there is smoke there is fire. Can some one please point me to the smoke about Jay-Z?! Quickly. With that said, he deserves a presumption of innocence until proven otherwise. Beyoncé deserves to stand by her man up until such time as well. If you all are leaving spouses over mere accusations by slimy attorneys you don't know what loyalty is. Only the chronically online teenagers say this and super try hard feminists. I remember all the ladies of The Talk on CBS shamed Bill Cosby wife for staying with him. Months later a co-host of the Talk Julie Chen Moonves' husband had accusations and they both got kicked off CBS. She still hosts big brother to this day and avoids all questions about her husband but made sure to put emphasis on announcing her husbands last name when he introduced herself. Prior to the allegations she always went by her maiden name. In the real world people aren't going to ditch someone they've been with for years because the internet wants them to lol. That's so dumb. Especially when no one is going to prison and it's all based on he said she said. People are so black and white nowadays it's cringe. And I could go even further into this but I don't feel like arguing with people who are assuming the worst of the worst is true. 1
Jon Snow Posted December 10, 2024 Posted December 10, 2024 Whatever the truth is, I think this is not the last Jay Z allegation we will be hearing about. And even if they turn out not to be true, he's surely done other bad things we'll find out about. I will not defend him, and I won't be as comfortable in this fandom as I used to be if large numbers of the Hive go defending him. I hope Beyoncé is innocent in all of this and doesn't support him if he ends up being guilty. I am not willing to compromise my morals, so it'a really hard time for me as a stan right now. I hope she stays true to what she has built her image upon. But most of all, I hope the children will be alright. They never choose to be born into all of that 1
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