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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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I know these comparisons with trendy hits are kinda unfair but they are still funny:

 

Please Please Please by Sabrina Carpertener is doing Beyoncé's entire discography numbers today alone (both at around 12M) :oh:

Nasty by Tinashe alone is outstreaming the entire Renaissance album :oh:

 

Neck, what have you done to us :psyduck:.

I know complete silence (with no sights or rumours of vacation) could mean she's working but still............. so unnecessary :psyduck:

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It's quite nice not caring about Beyoncé's legacy just like Beyoncé herself :)

 

Let me dive deep into stanning these other pop girlies! I have overcome! And y'all can too!

 

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8 minutes ago, Rafael said:

I know these comparisons with trendy hits are kinda unfair but they are still funny:

 

Please Please Please by Sabrina Carpertener is doing Beyoncé's entire discography numbers today alone (both at around 12M) :oh:

Nasty by Tinashe alone is outstreaming the entire Renaissance album :oh:

 

Neck, what have you done to us :psyduck:.

I know complete silence (with no sights or rumours of vacation) could mean she's working but still............. so unnecessary :psyduck:

Its the complete and utter refusal to do anything after hitting the upload/submit button during album release for me nnnn she literally treats her own albums like I used to treat my essays and thesis during college years :suburban:

as a hybrid Hive/SweeTee, I've been enjoying seeing the one who's continued to hustle her ass off despite tanking for a decade 1) finally get some recognition and 2) capitalize on the moment 

 

really puts how complacent the bigger artists can get into perspective

 

Like yes, Bey has already been through that period of nonstop grinding, but there are ways she/her team can support her music without any effort on her part. My flop faves remind me that quality and drive aren't enough - sometimes you just need that little extra bit of luck to push through. 

She is stubborn to a fault and frankly has a big ego. She thinks she's proving a point by not lifting a finger and as most stubborn people do she's simply hurting herself. 

again, the people I feel bad about are the small artists that make art pieces for her who could really use the promo. I mean that etsy shop person's business BOOMED once it was found out she made the sequined hat.. Especially since most of them probably loan her the pieces and are banking on the hype that they worked on a beyoncé project, meanwhile the whole process is being held up because the billionaire isn't getting paid enough from streaming companies... 

 

Why do I feel like in 5 years Nadia will be also be saying what a nightmare it was directing this project with NDA's, no info on when it will be released, and late night texts from Bey saying she doesn't like it and they need to reshoot some videos

 

:suburban:

One thing I don't want is multiple monologues scattered throughout like Lem and BIK

 

Gurl don't nobody wanna hear your bedtime voice. Give us something a la ST with transitions in between, a story line and choreo throughout 

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I keep coming back to CC every second week, it's such a slow-burner masterpiece for me. Usually I consume new releases up front, I'm taking my time with this one and I really like it!

1 minute ago, Lose My Breath said:

Listened to CC 3x today while doing stuff 

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1 hour ago, king_queen said:

One thing I don't want is multiple monologues scattered throughout like Lem and BIK

 

Gurl don't nobody wanna hear your bedtime voice. Give us something a la ST with transitions in between, a story line and choreo throughout 

Don't worry girl, you will be getting THIS AND MORE!

 

4:3 aspect ratio this second, 16:9 the next, then 3:2 just for the hell of it, then a Super8 filter the next frame, then 21:9 all of a sudden with no f**kin reason and not even a smooth transition. just random ass aspect ratios all over the place like they used camera presets and didn't bother editing

like, i swear to god, lemonade and Black Is king are great, but the editing is hot f**kin garbage. i wish they never let her use editing software back in i am world tour dvd. that's where this incoherent editing sh*t began

2 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

She is stubborn to a fault and frankly has a big ego. She thinks she's proving a point by not lifting a finger and as most stubborn people do she's simply hurting herself. 

Bey's antics are grating, but I really really realllly take umbrage with the "she doesn't give a f**k" and has this huge ego rhetoric. 

 

I think it's more a case of how she "lifts her finger" now looks different from before. 

 

When she was sweating it on the promo rounds, she wasn't simultaneously producing feature-length, cinematic visual albums. Which is a point that shouldn't be negated.

 

I think she, and by proxy me as a fan, have unplugged from this notion of her being this machine with everything to prove. As her art matures and the demands of the scale she's embracing heighten (aka film-scale visuals), the lion's share of her energy will be funneled into that. At this age and stage, pretending to be able to do it all or trying to do it all, isn't humanly feasible. Or reasonable looking at how many of our idols have burned out.

 

It continues to be the toughest pill to swallow for me as a fan, but theoretically, acts are supposed to bust their behinds on the rise to be able to reach the level where their success is somewhat automated...like Bey's.

 

Make no mistake, she's f**king up having zero visibility while she works on whatever she's working on. She has more than enough resources to ensure she/the project have even a mild presence to ensure sustained buzz and she's not doing that. I don't get ego or hard-headedness from this, I just get not reading the room or better yet the industry. 

 

 

Also, if the rock era is even true atp, she needs to give THIS

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not whatever that mess was in the CR Fashion Book :jonny2:

Reading these posts, it's shocking that some fans of Bey still dont accept what has become of her work. Like it's not going to change. What  Bey is doing  now she wanted to do it in her early 30's but she pushed it to her 40's. Remember when she used to say in interviews that when she gets older, she will release music but not promote as much? that she would tour her work but that's about it? How come nobody remembers that? Y'all thought she was lying?

 

The problem with the fans' disconnect with Bey is that they THINK this fame that Bey has is too great to be left to waste. She is still being compared to top artists of today when she debuted in late 90's. Would she still have this fame if she was thirsty and all over the place though?  Think about it. 

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18 hours ago, CécredSpaces said:

Don't worry girl, you will be getting THIS AND MORE!

 

4:3 aspect ratio this second, 16:9 the next, then 3:2 just for the hell of it, then a Super8 filter the next frame, then 21:9 all of a sudden with no f**kin reason and not even a smooth transition. just random ass aspect ratios all over the place like they used camera presets and didn't bother editing

plucked straight from @Mitsouko's nightmares

1 hour ago, jane said:

Reading these posts, it's shocking that some fans of Bey still dont accept what has become of her work. Like it's not going to change. What  Bey is doing  now she wanted to do it in her early 30's but she pushed it to her 40's. Remember when she used to say in interviews that when she gets older, she will release music but not promote as much? that she would tour her work but that's about it? How come nobody remembers that? Y'all thought she was lying?

 

The problem with the fans' disconnect with Bey is that they THINK this fame that Bey has is too great to be left to waste. She is still being compared to top artists of today when she debuted in late 90's. Would she still have this fame if she was thirsty and all over the place though?  Think about it. 

Oh we know and understand where shes coming from, but we as consumers do not have to like it.

Seeing how the world slowly but surely moves on from her with every new project, it seems the complainers are not a minority.

 

And trust, im sure the Janet Fans were once cocky too. But Janets entire legacy was tarnished (due to one incident) and quite frankly, her catalog and reputation has suffered greatly. Dont think people will keep speaking greatly of Bey or remembering her "because shes Beyonce".

 

Madonna, for instance, has worked HARD to maintain her status and has been rewarded by still being deemed the untouchable Queen of Pop

it's so telling that she will most likely have just 1 song in my Spotify Wrapped Top 5 this year, with a whole new album out, when she had all 5 occupied in 2022 and 4/5 in 2023.

 

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1 hour ago, jane said:

Reading these posts, it's shocking that some fans of Bey still dont accept what has become of her work. Like it's not going to change. What  Bey is doing  now she wanted to do it in her early 30's but she pushed it to her 40's. Remember when she used to say in interviews that when she gets older, she will release music but not promote as much? that she would tour her work but that's about it? How come nobody remembers that? Y'all thought she was lying?

 

The problem with the fans' disconnect with Bey is that they THINK this fame that Bey has is too great to be left to waste. She is still being compared to top artists of today when she debuted in late 90's. Would she still have this fame if she was thirsty and all over the place though?  Think about it. 

Yeah yeah. The ***** could drop 1-3 music videos per era. Yes we'd likely as for more, but at least SOMETHING. No one is asking for SNL or the View. But the film could've been released digitally, she could have done an acoustic performance of Texas or something. Literally anything beyond IG reels. 
 

REN she got a pass cause the album is flaw free. CC is not nearly good enough to leave for dust like this. 

2 hours ago, jane said:

Reading these posts, it's shocking that some fans of Bey still dont accept what has become of her work. Like it's not going to change. What  Bey is doing  now she wanted to do it in her early 30's but she pushed it to her 40's. Remember when she used to say in interviews that when she gets older, she will release music but not promote as much? that she would tour her work but that's about it? How come nobody remembers that? Y'all thought she was lying?

 

The problem with the fans' disconnect with Bey is that they THINK this fame that Bey has is too great to be left to waste. She is still being compared to top artists of today when she debuted in late 90's. Would she still have this fame if she was thirsty and all over the place though?  Think about it. 

No, she said she wants to make as many albums as possible. :skull: 

1 hour ago, cloudbusting said:

plucked straight from @Mitsouko's nightmares

It already exists. It's called Lemonade. So many of its videos would be so much better if they stuck with one aspect ratio -- even if it's different for each song. It's so grating to see her in widescreen then she moves her ass for five seconds and all of a sudden she's squished into a tiny ass frame like it's 2003. Like... it's not even visually appealing. I want a more consistent experience like B'Day Anthology and self-titled.

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36 minutes ago, CécredSpaces said:

It already exists. It's called Lemonade. So many of its videos would be so much better if they stuck with one aspect ratio -- even if it's different for each song. It's so grating to see her in widescreen then she moves her ass for five seconds and all of a sudden she's squished into a tiny ass frame like it's 2003. Like... it's not even visually appealing. I want a more consistent experience like B'Day Anthology and self-titled.

I don't notice it AS much in Lemonade. To me Homecoming and Renaissance are way worse because it completely ruins the feel of a live performance. 
 

I watched lady ga ga's concert film the other day (well most of it) and even though the show is kinda wack it's very well filmed and edited. A proper concert/performance recording. 

All I see on social media nowadays is how Bey isn't relatable enough. I wonder when this facade ends and when these brokies listen to themselves talking about relating to whole billionaires. Beyoncé is aging so well, isn't bald headed, and has the credentials to sell certain products. I don't need to feel like she's my best friend to appreciate the quality of whatever she puts out.

 

:suburban:

22 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

I watched lady ga ga's concert film the other day (well most of it) and even though the show is kinda wack it's very well filmed and edited. A proper concert/performance recording. 

The way we used to have this in Live at Wembley and The Beyoncé Experience. Even Live at Roseland kept the edits to a minimum and was very enjoyable because of it.

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