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I've always found weird why George Michael sang IIWAB with Beyoncé on the I Am... Tour and months ago I found the reason why :giraffe:

 

From an interview to Manfred Thierry Mugler by Numéro:

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Numéro Homme: Why made you decide to give up fashion in 2003?

Manfred Thierry Mugler: Mainly because fashion was an incredible means of artistic expression in the 70s, 80s and 90s, but it wasn't like that anymore in the 2000s when creation was completely stifled by marketing and business. Not to mention the most infernal pace and impossible deadlines to keep up with between the cruise collections, the pre-collections, the menswear and the womenswear, the ready-to-wear, the haute couture… You just have to look at all the designers who've either lost it or decided to quite while the going's good. I have to say that I always saw fashion as a very useful and exciting vector for stage direction, but one that has limits. For 20 years my heart broke having to refuse video and performance projects because I simply didn't have enough time. To shoot a video in Los Angeles for example, you had to be reactive within three weeks, and so I missed out on doing films for Cher – in her heyday -  Aretha Franklin, Bette Midler and so many others. Although as you must know I did find time to make Too Funky for George Michael…

 

… Yeah now we're on this subject why exactly did you two fall out on that set? People have been asking the question for 20 years now.

 It's quite simple: George had promised me by email – the day before the shoot, that we were in complete agreement over the script, the story-board and the editing of the video. He said he didn't want to be in it, unlike all his other videos. So far so good. The next morning, I arrived on set at the Boulogne Studios, where almost 500 people were waiting: one hell of a team, dancers from all over the world, from Japan and Australia, all the top models – Linda, Eva, Nadja, Tyra –, incredible people like Rossy de Palma and Julie Newmar – who played Catwoman in the first Batman – and the female impersonators Lypsinka and Joey Arias… Then George rocks up at 9am and says contrary to everything we'd agreed on, that he wanted shots of him in the video. I told him that was impossible, that the story-board was all sewn up, but I knew he took it badly. We carried on as originally planned for two days but on the last of the shoot he lost it and summoned the whole team to announce: "Mugler is fired. Now I'm the director." There was a deathly silence on the set, no one moved. I didn't know where to put myself. Then Julie Newmar spoke out and said indignantly, "I know all about your dealings in Los Angeles Mr Michael! Know that we're all here for Mugler and not for you!" All the top models then chimed in saying they wouldn't stay if I didn't. So, George stalked out and locked himself in his dressing room, after his bodyguards had tried in vain to throw me out. Anyway, we finished the shoot without him, but he ended up adding shots of himself during the editing. In the credits at the end of the video, you'll notice the words "directed by" are followed by a question mark, for the simple reason he was contractually obliged to acknowledge me as director. To be honest he completely butchered the video for Too Funky in the editing room, and we ended up with something insipid because his only goal was the promotion of his album. He most notably cut the gay and transgender scenes, which seemed a shame considering the royalties from the record went towards the fight against AIDS. It was only years later that we patched things up thanks to Beyoncé…  

 

How's that?

It's quite a sweet anecdote and pays tribute to George: in 2009 I was in London for the opening of I Am… Beyoncé's world tour, which I was the artistic director of. And just then I got a message from George, funny, adorable… "Hi Thierry, it's George, the poor English queen manipulated by his managers in Los Angeles… But all that's behind us now. You made the most beautiful video of my career… And my dream now is to appear on stage with Beyoncé tonight." So, I called Beyoncé and said, "Okay Miss B, we'll say yes to George on one condition: that he sings If I Were a Boy in a duet with you!" The poor guy was busted in public toilets in LA and had been forced to come out, so I thought that track was very appropriate. Beyoncé was like, "That's fine, that's fine." And so, there was George on stage at the O2 Arena with her singing "If I Were a Boy"! It was a total triumph.

 

 

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1 hour ago, cloudbusting said:

it's annoying that yes, she's at her creative peak, but she also keeps treating us like walking piggy banks rather than fans

Yup, that is my problem as well. If she did not treat us like money bags and at least cared to put minimal effort into crafting an era (a music video, a live performance, RWT on streaming (which is already fully edited, gathering dust in her vault)) I would not care about her getting her bag in her other numerous ventures, hell I would even buy her perfume and shampoo.

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This is a person who owns an $80M mansion and a $200M mansion... in the same city.

 

:suburban:

 

Miss me with that works hard bs. Millions work harder. The correct term is she applies herself. Better than anyone. The problem is now she's only applying herself when the payout is mansion-sized. There is no magnanimity. She gets to be richer than god, that's her return on her investment in herself since the 90s. God bless. But her fans' returns on their own investments in her are dwindling with each passing year. Shampoo and olive oil do not count. Falsely advertised, half-baked vinyls do count. Against her.

 

:suburban:

 

She wants one foot in the spotlight, one foot out of it, and both hands in our pockets. Nope. Deliver. Upload them visuals, Neck. Put those tours on 4K. You can literally stay in the house, hermit. What's not clicking...

When you google "American World Tour" it redirects you to her tour page. :coffee2:

1 minute ago, bwhansen said:

When you google "American World Tour" it redirects you to her tour page. :coffee2:

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so what now

 

:suburban:

9 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

Her fans' returns on their own investments in her are dwindling with each passing year. Shampoo and olive oil do not count.

 

:suburban:

what's worse is that there are plenty of things we actually wouldnt mind paying for, but our favorite palliative care patient refuses to even make that an option. greedy AND out of touch, like pick a struggle

 

:suburban:

2 minutes ago, bwhansen said:

I meant Americano, sorry :rip:

pretty sure it just brings up recent and current tours because Olivia and Justin are right under it

 

besides, that would be such a random name for it to have anyway 

56 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

This is a person who owns an $80M mansion and a $200M mansion... in the same city.

 

:suburban:

 

Miss me with that works hard bs. Millions work harder. The correct term is she applies herself. Better than anyone. The problem is now she's only applying herself when the payout is mansion-sized. There is no magnanimity. She gets to be richer than god, that's her return on her investment in herself since the 90s. God bless. But her fans' returns on their own investments in her are dwindling with each passing year. Shampoo and olive oil do not count. Falsely advertised, half-baked vinyls do count. Against her.

 

:suburban:

 

She wants one foot in the spotlight, one foot out of it, and both hands in our pockets. Nope. Deliver. Upload them visuals, Neck. Put those tours on 4K. You can literally stay in the house, hermit. What's not clicking...

I didn't even buy the latest vinyl because I'm sure it'll be marked down somewhere soon.

 

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I'm also not buying Cecred or whatever she's going to do with Ivy Park. At this point I may not even physically buy act iii in any fashion

 

 

2 hours ago, Anvarie said:

I haven't been in base in a minute….. y'all doing okay?

 

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They dragging bey lmao

22 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

I haven't been in base in a minute….. y'all doing okay?

 

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is II MOST UNWANTED still charting? there's your answer

 

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4 hours ago, bwhansen said:

When you google "American World Tour" it redirects you to her tour page. :coffee2:

4 hours ago, bwhansen said:

I meant Americano, sorry :rip:

this happens when you search "world tour" too. its just residual hits from RWT.

31 minutes ago, king_queen said:

How close is CC to 2 million units? :sistrens:

Didn't it just now cross one million? I think I saw a tweet about it.

10 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Like you really can't do anything for the fans that have stuck by you for 25 years? 

wdym ? aren't scrapped visuals and more lion king enough for you greedy ungrateful fans ? 

 

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14 hours ago, cloudbusting said:

it's bland, pedestrian and completely beneath her, plus post sounds like ASS

You forgot to mention that it has Post Malone in it, who less than two months after the release of Levii's Jeans decided collab with Morgan Wallen. He has no business being on CC.

 

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On 6/12/2024 at 12:10 AM, Kristie Kuwa said:

Like everybody did

 

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this is just so funny to me :ahh: the way most album do worse now than before Cowboy Carter :ahh: the way Rennie is crippled. Wow, it truly takes talent to tank yourself like that

 

Oh Giselle, the dumb btch you are :deadbanana2:

 

Just release the damn visuals you sick woman 🫠

The way I know when she releases the visuals y'all are going to gag regardless, just based off the eternity of waiting alone lmao. :deadbanana2:
 

Just the pleasure of even seeing her on SCREEN after years is gonna make us gag lmao!!! But it's funny how much she don't give a f*ck about this d^mn album! :ahh:

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