16 hours ago, Mitsouko said:

Selling this tour's gonna be a struggle tbh. Like OTRII or worse.

1) she just toured rather expensively

2) mid ass album unlike Renaissance 

3) flop ass album unlike Renaissance 

4) no "rising-from-the-dead" hype which she had before RWT

 

I wish her 0.25 fl oz of luck.

3 hours ago, Draper. said:

This is true tbh. I don't see how she could repeat the RWT strategy when it clearly wouldn't work. I think the smartest move would be to start the tour in places where she hasn't been for a decade and let the hype build before putting US and Europe up for sale. 

she'll be fine. touring is one area she doesn't have to worry about.

 

more than enough people didn't get to go to RWT that will want to go to this one. not to mention all the casual listeners shes gained from CC. she's beyoncé, the best entertainer alive. 

 

the only reason OTR II struggled is because she brought her husband when no one asked. if she had gone on a Homecoming tour after the reception to coachella it would've grossed more than FWT. 

 

dates aren't coming this year though, so its moot to even discuss.

Edited June 16, 20242 yr by yonsé

3 hours ago, QueenB said:

when the three part clown act is over and she releases the visuals on a irrelevant streaming platform (my guesses are paramount+... maybe even Shudder!) and only the diehard fans watch since nothing is posted to youtube and is immediately forgotten by the public with NO boosts to streams!

 

nope it'll be released in cinemas like the renaisssance film and the only way ppl will be able to see it is if they pay a $20 ticket for it.  and it won't be available to rent or buy either

Can we stop saying her visuals didn't arrive because of a knee surgery? She gave us visuals to every song since self-titled and by the time Black Is King came out they made little-to-no noise so it's her STARVING you guys and the GP and creating hype by making all of us MISS her videos. If she were to make a visual for every song non-stop people would've stopped caring. 

 

You stop appreciating what you constantly have! 

why do people act like CC is some critical and commercial failure?  it debuted over Renaissance, gave her another #1 song and is her highest rated album on Metacritic. Yes, Rennie is better and more universal but she'll have no problem selling out a tour, she's Beyoncé. She needs to mix up countries and cities though, that will help. I.e. Czech Republic/Hungary/Austria instead of Poland, Madrid instead of Barcelona etc.

46 minutes ago, Club classic said:

why do people act like CC is some critical and commercial failure?  it debuted over Renaissance, gave her another #1 song and is her highest rated album on Metacritic. Yes, Rennie is better and more universal but she'll have no problem selling out a tour, she's Beyoncé. She needs to mix up countries and cities though, that will help. I.e. Czech Republic/Hungary/Austria instead of Poland, Madrid instead of Barcelona etc.

Oh please no. Barcelona always goes great for her, don't fix it if it isn't broken.

Yeah idk what y'all are talking about Beyoncé not being able to tour. OTR1 literally started two months after TMCSWT. Unless she completely tarnishes her reputation within the next year, touring will always be her bread and butter.

 

Think about how many people still haven't seen Beyoncé. Also, y'all have to know TH'E is going to be a MOMENT live. There's going to be a lot of casual listeners going to see that song alone. She'll be more than fine.

Edited June 17, 20242 yr by king_queen

48 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

Can we stop saying her visuals didn't arrive because of a knee surgery? She gave us visuals to every song since self-titled and by the time Black Is King came out they made little-to-no noise so it's her STARVING you guys and the GP and creating hype by making all of us MISS her videos. If she were to make a visual for every song non-stop people would've stopped caring. 

 

You stop appreciating what you constantly have! 

Black is king made no noise because she waited a full year after the album came out to release it. There is no hype being generated for her visuals now, it's actually doing the opposite as even her fans are starting to get over it

2 hours ago, jane said:

This fanbase has become toxic and abusive to Beyoncé a long time ago. It's one reason Bey is protecting her peace and ignoring us for the most part, let's be honest here. This non stop need for her to feed them something and when she doesn't, they trash her and her ability to do everything. They refuse to understand that Beyonce is NOT a new artist and doesn't need to do a damn thing to promote her music at this point other than touring. What is going on in her personal life has nothing to do with her work and it's disrespectful to speculate. Talking about her kids or her husband will only make her hide some more and do even less. If that's your plan to bully her and put pressure. Good luck. 

THIS!!!!. Hive never gets this and never will.

1 hour ago, Club classic said:

why do people act like CC is some critical and commercial failure?  it debuted over Renaissance, gave her another #1 song and is her highest rated album on Metacritic. Yes, Rennie is better and more universal but she'll have no problem selling out a tour, she's Beyoncé. She needs to mix up countries and cities though, that will help. I.e. Czech Republic/Hungary/Austria instead of Poland, Madrid instead of Barcelona etc.

Not you saying she should switch cities in Spain but completely abandon Poland as a country 

11 minutes ago, QueenB said:

There is no hype being generated for her visuals now, it's actually doing the opposite as even her fans are starting to get over it

But the minute she announces them they'll be back in droves. That wouldn't have happened if she kept doing videos to every song on every album because the natural interest would falter. 

Diamonds on my neck, diamonds on my records.

 

Since sixteen, I've coming down, riding Lexus.

1 hour ago, Chris said:

Diamonds on my neck, diamonds on my records.

 

Since sixteen, I've coming down, riding Lexus.

how you gon' neglect this?

you is just a hot mess

 

One of the performers at Capital FM's Summertime Ball (Bradley Simpson from The Vamps) covered Jolene today, iconic song I fear

You can call Tyrone

You ain't gots to lie Craig

 

 

Jay did more performances past week then B did for the past eras

8 hours ago, jane said:

This fanbase has become toxic and abusive to Beyoncé a long time ago. It's one reason Bey is protecting her peace and ignoring us for the most part, let's be honest here. This non stop need for her to feed them something and when she doesn't, they trash her and her ability to do everything. They refuse to understand that Beyonce is NOT a new artist and doesn't need to do a damn thing to promote her music at this point other than touring. What is going on in her personal life has nothing to do with her work and it's disrespectful to speculate. Talking about her kids or her husband will only make her hide some more and do even less. If that's your plan to bully her and put pressure. Good luck. 

 

I don't come in here as much now but anytime I do it's always some passive aggressive and downright malicious comments. Some of you are giving Yolanda Saldívar vibes. Like really unhinged and irate. 
 

If it's not mocking her age, hoping for Cecred's failure, making slick comments that are damn near wishing harm on her, it's speculating on her kids, her health, marriage etc. And nobody better quote me with the tired " it's just jokes" "its fan talk" bullcrap because it's been months of the same comments so it clearly isn't. 
 

It's quite clear she's not planning to really push CC and has been clear for months now. Shes shown us repeatedly with Ren now CC and probably Act 3. Accept it and go live your life!
 

Don't get wrong I would have loved Bey to be more engaged with CC too,  but some of you act like you don't have anything to live for because she hasn't and that's a YOU issue not Beys. 

 

Edited June 17, 20242 yr by Island Goddess

Ashley being a Fenty hair "influencer" is interesting 

5 hours ago, Doctor Dick said:

Not you saying she should switch cities in Spain but completely abandon Poland as a country 

I was there in Poland's gold circle for RWT and the crowd wasn't really good

comparing fans who won't stroke her ego for every single business venture of hers to a woman who shot and killed the singer she was embezzling from has to be one of the boldest takes I've seen in here

 

Lol at picking the Yolanda comment but not addressing the rest of the comment. 
 

How many pages of not "stroking ego" are yall gonna do?

It's not even ass kissing from me because check my post history I've dragged the ass kissers.
 

However the lines has clearly been repeatedly crossed in here. And some of you are undeniably SICK and it has to be called out. 

15 hours ago, kimberly said:

I don't want to hear any conspiracy theories but I do think one of her children, likely Sir, might have something going on:

 

Yes, I was aware of this (and I certainly didn't intend to raise any conspiracies about her family). It's just some of the comments in here about Bey as of late have been abhorrent and I want people to remember she's raising 3 kids - and, as cliche as it is, we really don't know much about what goes on in her life. 

 

I am frustrated like everyone else, but nothing she has/hasn't done this era deserves the level of toxicity I have been reading in here...Some of y'all need to go stream FLAMENCO stat. 

 

I would have loved to hear a live performance of any song from CC, heck an acoustic performance of Alligator Tears, even if it's done in her backyard. 
 

But I'm not about to start making trifling ass comments that I hope her Knee injury persists or wish her any other physical aliments with glee, speculate on her children's health, hope Jay cheats on her and any other unhinged and downright evil comments I've repeatedly seen in here. 

The months long circle jerk has made this base extremely toxic, even popping in occasionally doesn't help. It's every page! 
 

 

All mess in here aside

 

I saw this and as much as it may be frustrating that there is no movement on beys end. This is absolutely amazing and truly a major impact from CC. 

 

I hope that the BW features on CC got or will eventually get a significant boost.
 

However It's always been a little easier for men to be accepted than for BW.  I mean Nelly had a few country hits. 

 

Just saw that thread about Taylor and Britney being the highest selling physical sales for woman.  Bey is about to pass Britney and take up the #2 spot, which is really impressive IMO - this isn't even counting Destiny's Child, which would put her at #1

Its civil war in here, my fav time of the year