I've never thought Beyoncé and Kelly sounded so much alike that I couldn't tell who is singing, but is Kelly NOT singing harmony on Ameriican Reqiuem? Either she is there uncredited or they really do sound so much alike.

I will never forgive whoever made that video of minions singing OH LOUISIANA, because you have effectively ruined it for me

3 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

I feel its because the subject matter is so heavy, I also dont find myself going back to it while acknowledging its impact and finesse. Other than Love Drought, Formation and DHY (and DL and Freedom at times), I dont really listen to the songs separately like that.

 

In comparison, CC, while also adressing heavier topics, has a much more positive outlook (+ the songs individually are much more easy-going). Its way more uplifting in its essence, similar to Rennie and 4.

 

Thats why 4, Rennie and CC are the essential Bey albums. It feels like being super close to Beys core as a human being and performer. Rennie is the final form of Sasha Fierce, CC the final Form of the I Am Side and 4 is just Bey to the T.

Not you eating with this great take.

42 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Sis, Renaissance's streams have been hanging out around 2-2.5 million for like 6 months or something lol

those are not good numbers  barely doing +2m for an under two year old album (and after u just released a new one) isn't exactly good either 

 

cuff it barely gets +500k a day, BMS 250k (), AS 100k,  and 11/16 songs don't get a million in a week…

Just now, ScorpiosGroove said:

those are not good numbers  barely doing +2m for an under two year old album (and after u just released a new one) isn't exactly good either 

 

cuff it barely gets +500k a day, BMS 250k (), AS 100k,  and 11/16 songs don't get a million in a week…

we're listening on apple music so we can hear the crisp clear audio 

guys why did II HANDS II HEAVEN just hit me like a mack truck

The sooner people realise that daily Spotify streams aren't indicative of an album's legacy the better.

 

Playlisting plays a massive part when it comes to these numbers; which mostly represent singles success which make up 90%+ of "album" streams in most cases.
 

Beyoncé's legacy as an album artist is beyond solidified. Besides, Lemonade is consistently charting on AM and even on Spotify B's album tracks get a lot more streams than basically all of her peers.

Edited April 8, 20242 yr by Yakult

14 minutes ago, Arrogant said:

guys why did II HANDS II HEAVEN just hit me like a mack truck

Because just like Dance For You (Jesus), Love Drought (looking for Jesus), and Jesus' Groove, 2 Hands 2 Jesus is just that girl that will stand the test of time of being a diamond within her discography. U just cant deny greatness like that

 

28 minutes ago, QueenB said:

we're listening on apple music so we can hear the crisp clear audio 

All jokes aside, there's some truth to this.

39 minutes ago, tachiwaka said:

I've never thought Beyoncé and Kelly sounded so much alike that I couldn't tell who is singing, but is Kelly NOT singing harmony on Ameriican Reqiuem? Either she is there uncredited or they really do sound so much alike.

I can hear Kelly too on the song

16 minutes ago, Yakult said:

The sooner people realise that daily Spotify streams aren't indicative of an album's legacy the better.

 

Playlisting plays a massive part when it comes to these numbers; which mostly represent singles success which make up 90%+ of "album" streams in most cases.
 

Beyoncé's legacy as an album artist is beyond solidified. Besides, Lemonade is consistently charting on AM and even on Spotify B's album tracks get a lot more streams than basically all of her peers.

 

Someone with a brain 

44 minutes ago, tachiwaka said:

I've never thought Beyoncé and Kelly sounded so much alike that I couldn't tell who is singing, but is Kelly NOT singing harmony on Ameriican Reqiuem? Either she is there uncredited or they really do sound so much alike.

There is a specific "Now is the time to face the wind" that definitely is not Beyonce, it might be Kelly or one of the girls featured on Blackbiird. 

3 hours ago, Virgos Groove said:

Is it just me or is Lemonade becoming kinda underrated? It's always so low on the Hive's rankings and the recurrent streams aren't that great. I blame the Tidal exclusive.

its not my personal fav (i gotta be in certain mood to stream it in full). but i will always have respect for lemonade.

 

its a very monumental moment in her discography. the music, the visuals, the aesthetic was tastefully done. we got to see her vulnerability & she successfully shown pain, frustration, humiliation, fear, resentment, denial, forgiveness, etc. that outlines how a typical [black] woman would feel when theres troubles in ur relationship. also i love how she connected slavery to black love bc most black women (and some black men) feel stagnant or trapped in a relationship, and in the album she highlights u can make the choice to move on or work things out.

 

but yea i do blame tidal too. formation alone could have been 800M streams on spotify by now. 

 

sorry i was in my @swissman bag for this. mb cause i usually drag lemonade.

3 minutes ago, Devin said:

its not my personal fav (i gotta be in certain mood to stream it in full). but i will always have respect for lemonade.

 

its a very monumental moment in her discography. the music, the visuals, the aesthetic was tastefully done. we got to see her vulnerability & she successfully shown pain, frustration, humiliation, fear, resentment, denial, forgiveness, etc. that outlines how a typical [black] woman would feel when theres troubles in ur relationship. also i love how she connected slavery to black love bc most black women (and some black men) feel stagnant or trapped in a relationship, and in the album she highlights u can make the choice to move on or work things out.

 

but yea i do blame tidal too. formation alone could have been 800M streams on spotify by now. 

 

sorry i was in my @swissman bag for this. mb cause i usually drag lemonade.

This is such a great interpretation/explanation.

 

I was revisiting it today and kept being amazed by the musicianship and the way she connected all those different themes. The visuals are excellent too and feel inseparable from the music. (2016 was such a great year for music.)

the thing about tidal and Lemonade that bothers me most is not that it was an exclusive for so long (per se) but that Beyoncé was just about the only artist from the launch who did anything like that. if there were any exclusivities from those involved, everyone's albums had a week's exclusivity and it was for sale and on other platforms. I really think that had everyone kept their word as BEYONCÉ kept her word, at the very least Tidal might've been bigger, big enough that it being a TIDAL exclusive didn't prevent people from listening to being able to casually listen to the album.

1 hour ago, Brikenbur said:

I do relate to her work ethic though.. finishes a project then needs a break is similar to my work week 

same. when i work on something, i isolate myself from the world, and i fully focus on what i'm doing. when i'm done, i need to let my mind calm. i can't bring myself to work on something else before i rest and have fun. i imagine she's the same 

1 hour ago, Arrogant said:

I will never forgive whoever made that video of minions singing OH LOUISIANA, because you have effectively ruined it for me

Girl, I absolutely hate Twitter HIVE because I cannot make it through II Hands II Heaven now without doing that ******* Andrea Kelly dance.

 

**** them

1 hour ago, DR0GO said:

All jokes aside, there's some truth to this.

1 hour ago, QueenB said:

we're listening on apple music so we can hear the crisp clear audio 

oh trust AM beats up spotify in the audio department, 0 competition. spotify sounds crunchy af but their algorithm and interface are just so much better 

1 hour ago, tachiwaka said:

I've never thought Beyoncé and Kelly sounded so much alike that I couldn't tell who is singing, but is Kelly NOT singing harmony on Ameriican Reqiuem? Either she is there uncredited or they really do sound so much alike.

That's Tanner Adell doing bgv on requiem

did they ask parkwood to write the press release ? 

 

 

 

CC is her best album by far and I can't believe I'm saying that. She keeps outdoing herself and challenging her abilities. So thankful for her and her artistry. 

Unpopular Tidal hot take...

 

Granted the launch was a botched, miscalculated mess, I will continue to applaud Jay for wanting in on the streaming market and the overall idea of pushing for better artist royalties. Centering that as the frontwards-facing narrative to the consumer was a big misstep (as well as not having any other USP). The irony is that it's exactly the discourse (royalties) that has clouded streaming as a means of consumption up til this day (as artists still make next to nothing from actual music).

 

That said, and maybe hindsight is 20/20, but when it comes to Bey and Tidal...what exactly was she meant to do?

 

Her and Jay present as this industry power couple. United front, titans, etc. 

 

There is no conceivable way her man would put his name to a streaming platform he OWNS and SHE as his right hand is gonna throw her then-new album Lemonade up on all rival services at the exact time platforms exclusives were a "thing" and at a time when Tidal was taking a battering in the press.

 

Like, while there's a wholly logical/commercial justification for her doing so (as we went on to see with her rocky/lagging entry into streaming), the easiest way to make it make sense is to personalize it to you and your loved one. I just don't see m/any of us not backing our bae's ish to the fullest. Even if to the detriment of one's own ish. Bey stood on (family) business and anything but doing that would have been bad optically for what she and Jay have built with the "Carter" brand.

 

There's for sure a fair argument about it being smarter for Bey and Jay to keep their business and musical entities as separate as possible (like the pre-marriage days), but I just don't see how there was any feasible way for that with Tidal given how intertwined they've become. 

(Though I do feel she took it too far with the "in perpetuity" declaration about Lemonade never come to other services and doubling down in lyrics. Team too much lol)

 

I dunno but I overall just feel I have a very "Bey's story had to play out exactly as is for her to be where she is and who she is" outlook on her career and choices. And that even accounts for the outright mistakes and moves she made that I wasn't the biggest fan of. 

tidal failed bc its whole thing was a bunch of billionaires crying about not getting enough money 

 

they would've done a lot better and would have a bigger (albeit more niche) audience if they highlighted and pushed the audiophile pleasing side and their great sound quality instead 

Lemonade is one of her best albums, that doesn't mean it has to be your fav. People need to learn the difference. When I go back to it, I get reminded how good it is.