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I'll reserve judgment on the marketing but her unwillingness to let the walls down and be relatable is what ultimately hurts her business ventures. She can kinda get away with it in music because she's built a reputation for being quality and her lyrics are often fun and self-referential, but she's gonna have to spam herself giggling and getting her hair done or holding products like Rihanna and Ariana if she really wants to go the distance.

 

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Oh Bey.

 

The way I was/am down with this Cecred thing, only to see now that TS has just announced the Disney+ release of her concert film "with 5 extra songs" :noparty:

 

The competitive part of my mind is annoyed that Bey is seemingly chilling while ole girl continues to make musical moves that are helping cement this manufactured idea that she's this innovator who reigns over everyone. 

 

The logical side reminds that we must be near the VOD drop for the Rennie film. Using the AMC template for TS, by this time in the product cycle, an announcement has to be imminent. 

 

What will be interesting to see with Bey is if she "does a TS" and goes wide with the VOD first and then gives a streamer an "expanded version" with the cut songs and more doc footage. Or whether she goes straight to a streamer.

 

IMO, I say bypass the BS and go straight to a streamer. I'd take any of them, but Netflix still makes the most sense for Bey's demo and in terms of getting millions more eyeballs on what is a really great film. 

 

 

1 hour ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I'll reserve judgment on the marketing but her unwillingness to let the walls down and be relatable is what ultimately hurts her business ventures. She can kinda get away with it in music because she's built a reputation for being quality and her lyrics are often fun and self-referential, but she's gonna have to spam herself giggling and getting her hair done or holding products like Rihanna and Ariana if she really wants to go the distance.

 

RIP us

Ce-nothappening :ryan3:

10 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

On a separate note, this reads like Bey surely?
 

 

the only other person it could be is taylor and i cant think of a nickname of hers?

1 minute ago, PrettyHurts said:

the only other person it could be is taylor and i cant think of a nickname of hers?

Tay Tay  :ryan3:

 

There is no way in hell it aint Taylor, she is the new supreme :ryan3:

42 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

On a separate note, this reads like Bey surely?
 

 

It’s Taylor lmao… Soon they will start using Queen Tay :lmao:

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35 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said:

the only other person it could be is taylor and i cant think of a nickname of hers?

Toilet Seat :ryan3:

10 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

Oh Bey.

 

The way I was/am down with this Cecred thing, only to see now that TS has just announced the Disney+ release of her concert film "with 5 extra songs" :noparty:

 

The competitive part of my mind is annoyed that Bey is seemingly chilling while ole girl continues to make musical moves that are helping cement this manufactured idea that she's this innovator who reigns over everyone. 

 

The logical side reminds that we must be near the VOD drop for the Rennie film. Using the AMC template for TS, by this time in the product cycle, an announcement has to be imminent. 

 

What will be interesting to see with Bey is if she "does a TS" and goes wide with the VOD first and then gives a streamer an "expanded version" with the cut songs and more doc footage. Or whether she goes straight to a streamer.

 

IMO, I say bypass the BS and go straight to a streamer. I'd take any of them, but Netflix still makes the most sense for Bey's demo and in terms of getting millions more eyeballs on what is a really great film. 

 

 

100%.

 

Renaissance: The Film should be on Netflix.

As for the visuals (if they exist?): Netflix too. Amazon now has this derivative JLo visual, and TSwift is on Disney+. Based on how Netflix and HBO attempted to promote Beyonce's previous projects, they deserve first pick and still maintain a level of prestige that matches her projects.

 

Based on how the TS team has been moving the last 5-7 years, it is clear Beychella, Homecoming, and  Homecoming: The Live Album took them off guard as they had nothing to jump ahead with.

 

However... What these other girls don't have is the CATALOG of concert films (released and unreleased). I think that should be her "re-recording"-esque gimmick: Either a long-term "slow-drip" of her live tour archives and visual albums with brand exclusives... or one platform to house all of her live performances.

 

Lemonade: The Film, Formation World TourOn The RunOTR II: Live in Johannesburg, I Am... Yours, Live At Roseland, Live in Atlantic City, and The Beyonce Experience should all have digital homes.

55 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

On a separate note, this reads like Bey surely?
 

 

Feels like a setup to make everyone think its their fav and to drive engagement. :rip: 

 

I can't really see Bey showing up for something like this.

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Bey was already awarded Woman of the Year back in like 2009?

 

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Edit: Taylor was awarded 3x there too, this prob her 4th. :skull:

 

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1 hour ago, Cbreezy said:

Oh Bey.

 

The way I was/am down with this Cecred thing, only to see now that TS has just announced the Disney+ release of her concert film "with 5 extra songs" :noparty:

 

The competitive part of my mind is annoyed that Bey is seemingly chilling while ole girl continues to make musical moves that are helping cement this manufactured idea that she's this innovator who reigns over everyone. 

 

The logical side reminds that we must be near the VOD drop for the Rennie film. Using the AMC template for TS, by this time in the product cycle, an announcement has to be imminent. 

 

What will be interesting to see with Bey is if she "does a TS" and goes wide with the VOD first and then gives a streamer an "expanded version" with the cut songs and more doc footage. Or whether she goes straight to a streamer.

 

IMO, I say bypass the BS and go straight to a streamer. I'd take any of them, but Netflix still makes the most sense for Bey's demo and in terms of getting millions more eyeballs on what is a really great film. 

She could still do the live album before Taylor, who will probably do it at the end of her tour.

21 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Apparently it's Karol G.

 

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idk if a stage name counts as a nickname, but some of her tour stops were stadiums

 

they technically didn’t say a stadium tour

 

:suburban:

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2 hours ago, Cbreezy said:

Oh Bey.

 

The way I was/am down with this Cecred thing, only to see now that TS has just announced the Disney+ release of her concert film "with 5 extra songs" :noparty:

 

The competitive part of my mind is annoyed that Bey is seemingly chilling while ole girl continues to make musical moves that are helping cement this manufactured idea that she's this innovator who reigns over everyone. 

 

The logical side reminds that we must be near the VOD drop for the Rennie film. Using the AMC template for TS, by this time in the product cycle, an announcement has to be imminent. 

 

What will be interesting to see with Bey is if she "does a TS" and goes wide with the VOD first and then gives a streamer an "expanded version" with the cut songs and more doc footage. Or whether she goes straight to a streamer.

 

IMO, I say bypass the BS and go straight to a streamer. I'd take any of them, but Netflix still makes the most sense for Bey's demo and in terms of getting millions more eyeballs on what is a really great film. 

 

 

But what about T*ylor releasing a concert film is a "musical move" that Beyoncé has not already done?

2 hours ago, Cbreezy said:

On a separate note, this reads like Bey surely?
 

 

Karol G is most likely, imo:

 

- “Mañana Será Bonito” was the first all-Spanish album by a female artist to hit No. 1. 

- She added a whole stadium leg to her US tour last year, playing 15 stadium shows

- Her nickname is "Bichota"

Its always unbelievably crazy how delulu some of yall are in here

 

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Make peace with the fact its more likely Ms Mystique leaves the movie as a theatre only release so we "can keep replaying it in our heads".

Yall are DREAMERS (with capital letters) thinking of drip releases, hoping for old concerts to be out on streaming, for additional Songs a la Taylor. Bey fingers herself everytime she limits herself and still somewhat succeeds. Its her kink

3 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Bey fingers herself everytime she limits herself and still somewhat succeeds

she’s not that special - I do it just for fun

 

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28 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Bey fingers herself everytime she limits herself and still somewhat succeeds. Its her kink

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47 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Bey fingers herself everytime she limits herself and still somewhat succeeds. Its her kink

oh-

 

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57 minutes ago, swissman said:

But what about T*ylor releasing a concert film is a "musical move" that Beyoncé has not already done?

Exactly....hive can be so dumb. Acting like beyonce is chasing taylor, girl bye

1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Bey fingers herself everytime she limits herself and still somewhat succeeds. Its her kink

:-*

On 2/6/2024 at 3:03 PM, Armani? said:

This might only last one more month on Billboard 200 if it keeps falling:rip:

I was certain this would overtake The Fame for most weeks at #1 on Billboard's top dance/electronic albums chart, but all of a sudden the fame is nearly 50 spots ahead on the bb200 and back to #1 on the genre chart. its her fault. she should' of just performed cuff it at the grammy's last year. thats all i wantd

2 hours ago, Draper. said:

She could still do the live album before Taylor, who will probably do it at the end of her tour.

can't wait for those vocals lol. sometimes i think about how beyonce could sing taylor's eras setlist 10x over and ts couldn't even make it  throgh's bey's opening song the way she does it

 

but different strokes for different folks. nothing but respect for hardworking taylor

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