I follow the Grammys deeply and the issue isn't as simple as plain race. Black people can win, it just needs to be inoffensive music. Single Ladies, About Damn Time, hell even the two pro-Black songs like I Can't Breathe or This Is America are a very surface-level approach to talking about racial issues vs. something like Alright by Kendrick. 

 

Hive might find it hard to believe but the closest she ever came to AOTY was IASF and her doing another album full of boring pop ballads like Halo would get her that win. The bias is against "urban" music, even white Eminem never won in the GF.

 

It will be years before the voter base is young enough to not have that ignorant bias to "urban" music.

Edited February 5, 20242 yr by Machete

4 minutes ago, Machete said:

I follow the Grammys deeply and the issue isn't as simple as plain race. Black people can win, it just needs to be inoffensive music.

1 minute ago, Devin said:

4 minutes ago, Devin said:

 

3 minutes ago, Tripthelight said:

Not sure what is rip worthy. I am literally explaining how ignorant Grammy voters think not saying I agree with it  

1 minute ago, Machete said:

 

Not sure what is rip worthy. I am literally explaining how ignorant Grammy voters think not saying I agree with it  

its not against u just a sad reality. the same happens in the job market. they wont hire/promote Black folks that are too Black

 

in order for us to succeed we either have to work 5x harder or be fake/make ourselves digestable to whites.

 

I don’t want a country album tbh 

29 minutes ago, Shelter said:

I don’t want a country album tbh 

I think Variety said country without realizing the scope of it. I could see it being more Shuggie Otis bluesy with rodeo imagery etc. 

 

It's not going to be like.. George Strait country or even Taylor Swift country.

Beyoncé ft. Brittney Spencer i can see it. 

Edited February 6, 20242 yr by Devin

Tbh I don’t know why some hives are so up in arms about Jay’s speech (as if it’s cringe or a bad look). I get that Bey don’t need yet another person to speak for her (be it Adele, Kanye or Lizzo) , but that’s her man… and tbh, that man is a quick witted comedian. I loved seeing that side of Jay. He supports women + he’s an LGBTQ+ ally (which is still somewhat taboo in the hip hop community). I am here for it.

Edited February 6, 20242 yr by BGKC

30 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I think Variety said country without realizing the scope of it. I could see it being more Shuggie Otis bluesy with rodeo imagery etc. 

 

It's not going to be like.. George Strait country or even Taylor Swift country.

You'll hate me for it, but I think it'll be an evolved version of JT's Man of the Woods, Gaga's Joanne and Miley's Younger Now. It's not really country, but has elements that make it sound that way. Bey will make it hers and it won't be the country everyone expected.

1 hour ago, Machete said:

I follow the Grammys deeply and the issue isn't as simple as plain race. Black people can win, it just needs to be inoffensive music. Single Ladies, About Damn Time, hell even the two pro-Black songs like I Can't Breathe or This Is America are a very surface-level approach to talking about racial issues vs. something like Alright by Kendrick. 

 

Hive might find it hard to believe but the closest she ever came to AOTY was IASF and her doing another album full of boring pop ballads like Halo would get her that win. The bias is against "urban" music, even white Eminem never won in the GF.

 

It will be years before the voter base is young enough to not have that ignorant bias to "urban" music.

NURSE!!!  She’s in here…

26 minutes ago, BGKC said:

Tbh I don’t know why some hives are so up in arms about Jay’s speech (as if it’s cringe or a bad look). I get that Bey don’t need yet another person to speak for her (be it Adele, Kanye or Lizzo) , but that’s her man… and tbh, that man is a quick witted comedian. I loved seeing that side of Jay. He supports women + he’s an LGBTQ+ ally (which is still somewhat taboo in the hip hop community). I am here for it.

She isn’t winning it anyway. Has any female won AOTY aged 40+? 

2 minutes ago, Shelter said:

She isn’t winning it anyway. Has any female won AOTY aged 40+? 

Judy Garland was ~11 days shy of 40 I believe 

She mentioned going to the rodeo as a kid in the same harper's bazaar issue she teased a Renaissance coming.

 

The Houston Rodeo kicks off in 18 days 

 

5 minutes ago, Shelter said:

She isn’t winning it anyway. Has any female won AOTY aged 40+? 

T*ylor with TS20 at 2031 Grammys. 

 

Sooo why don’t we think she can win AOTY if she puts out a country adjacent album? I think if there hasn’t much profanity, she might have a shot, depending on the other competition. 
 

6 minutes ago, Devin said:

T*ylor with TS20 at 2031 Grammys. 

 

The fact that this is super likely 

51 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I think Variety said country without realizing the scope of it. I could see it being more Shuggie Otis bluesy with rodeo imagery etc. 

 

It's not going to be like.. George Strait country or even Taylor Swift country.

Idk if that’s really any better

 

1 hour ago, Machete said:

I follow the Grammys deeply and the issue isn't as simple as plain race. Black people can win, it just needs to be inoffensive music. Single Ladies, About Damn Time, hell even the two pro-Black songs like I Can't Breathe or This Is America are a very surface-level approach to talking about racial issues vs. something like Alright by Kendrick. 

 

Hive might find it hard to believe but the closest she ever came to AOTY was IASF and her doing another album full of boring pop ballads like Halo would get her that win. The bias is against "urban" music, even white Eminem never won in the GF.

beyoncé is fully aware of this and that is why her music is that radical. she will never go back to boring inoffensive themes in her music. that is why her existence pisses so many people off. because she holds power and longevity without the need to play the game anymore.

 

she was forced into an inoffensive pop box for years and even her biggest vanilla-est push was still NOT enough to move the needle in her direction. she knows she is not going to win this award, but to be frank, it IS as simple as race.

 

Especially when someone like blondie doesn't have to do anything worthwhile on an album for it to win. even her own fans agree it is a forgettable record and not at the top tier of her discography. you have to be twice as good to get half as much as a Black person in any industry and the same applies here.

1 minute ago, tachiwaka said:

Sooo why don’t we think she can win AOTY if she puts out a country adjacent album? I think if there hasn’t much profanity, she might have a shot, depending on the other competition. 
 

The fact that this is super likely 

i dont think its just profanity. tbh her first 4 albums had no profanity/explicit tracks.

5 minutes ago, tachiwaka said:

Sooo why don’t we think she can win AOTY if she puts out a country adjacent album? I think if there hasn’t much profanity, she might have a shot, depending on the other competition. 

because people think she wins too much. shes an "urban" artist as well and they hate when artists don't stay in their genre. 

 

remember how the country voters rioted because she submitted daddy lessons as a country song?

Edited February 6, 20242 yr by yonsé

when I see her and Julius at the rodeo chowing down a giant turkey leg and funnel cake.

 

Back in 2020 I believed act ii would be out at the end of the year lol. My updated prediction is Summer 2024. The way Taylor will release four albums in between the two acts... 

3 hours ago, Machete said:

Hive might find it hard to believe but the closest she ever came to AOTY was IASF and her doing another album full of boring pop ballads like Halo would get her that win. The bias is against "urban" music, even white Eminem never won in the GF.

Yeah IASF is probably the closest she came to AOTY, she was probably #2 after Fearless that year. She was the only one to win a General Field Grammy out of the AOTY nominees (also because Gaga was ineligible for BNA which is insane/hilarious).

3 hours ago, Machete said:

Hive might find it hard to believe but the closest she ever came to AOTY was IASF and her doing another album full of boring pop ballads like Halo would get her that win. The bias is against "urban" music, even white Eminem never won in the GF.

 

I always have thought the same. She was probably very close to win with Sasha Fierce. She was at the top of the world winning in both pop and R&B fields, SOTY win over Taylor, 6 Grammys that night

 

And if she had submitted Single Ladies for ROTY maybe she would have won that too.

1 hour ago, Devin said:

i dont think its just profanity. tbh her first 4 albums had no profanity/explicit tracks.

Yeah but I don’t think any of those were at the caliber to win, at the time - self-titled seemed like her first attempt at telling a story instead of just putting a tracklist together. Her transition into “albums” and more authenticity included cursing 

 

1 hour ago, yonsé said:

because people think she wins too much. shes an "urban" artist as well and they hate when artists don't stay in their genre. 

 

remember how the country voters rioted because she submitted daddy lessons as a country song?

True true