10 minutes ago, Starshine said:

The ASMR in the trailer reminds me of the time she sent that voice note in bed rambling to the club renaissance in LA, and everyone was just standing there like 🧍🏻for 7 minutes. She would have knocked me out if I was there. I was definitely whelmed with the trailer. 

 

I do agree I'm burned out on the sleepy voiceovers and the aspect ratio changing as well as the filters. I think she has a hard time narratively tying her films together without going over them with narration later. 

2 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I do agree I'm burned out on the sleepy voiceovers and the aspect ratio changing as well as the filters. I think she has a hard time narratively tying her films together without going over them with narration later. 

She also has trouble demonstrating artisticness in her documentary visuals without applying sepia or grainy black and white distortion. 

Beyoncé launched the (current) highest-selling female tour of all time with a single image.

 

She's doing fine. 

 

She could be doing better, but she seems to be prioritizing concept over commerce, and that's fine in too.

I think a visual film release at the movies  would have been dope. Especially if it was in the same realm as moonwalker or something like that with a storyline. 

5 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I do agree I'm burned out on the sleepy voiceovers and the aspect ratio changing as well as the filters. I think she has a hard time narratively tying her films together without going over them with narration later. 

This is a great point. Not everything needs a narration, trust the audience to follow along.

9 minutes ago, Massive_Teardrop said:

She also has trouble demonstrating artisticness in her documentary visuals without applying sepia or grainy black and white distortion. 

I don't think these things are intended to show artistry but impart a classic feeling onto them and situate feelings of past, present and probably in RWT's case, the future (by contrasting it with HD footage of the show).

 

For example, seeing parts of Homecoming (especially the actual concert itself) through the Super 8 lens kind of re-wires the way you see the event outside of the present moment. It then starts to have the mythological feeling of seeing an old Diana Ross concert, or other such footage. It's a bit of a cheap trick, tricking our minds like that, but I think it serves its purpose well.

 

And anyway, what other amazing ideas do people have to replace it? Just standard colour? 3D behind-the-scenes? Smell-o-vision so we can smell the parfum? I'm not sure why Beyoncé isn't allowed to have a style when it comes to how she directs her documentaries.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I do agree I'm burned out on the sleepy voiceovers and the aspect ratio changing as well as the filters. I think she has a hard time narratively tying her films together without going over them with narration later. 

At least the critics love it and it’ll be once again, universally acclaimed hence why she keeps following this formula. They just need to give her the Oscar already.
 

Im just there for the professional recording of the show, her giving the side eye in rehearsals, Honey getting beat up, and that’s it. I want this film gay and rated R as hell. I want to see the gays in Club Rennie with their bare ass out (because I know they got at least 10 of them in every city)! There is not an appropriate or any instance where we need cuts to Jay. Rumi and Sir, luv u niece and nephew, but they ain’t drawing me to the recliners. 

4 minutes ago, swissman said:

And anyway, what other amazing ideas do people have to replace it? Just standard colour? 3D behind-the-scenes? Smell-o-vision so we can smell the parfum? I'm not sure why Beyoncé isn't allowed to have a style when it comes to how she directs her documentaries.

My genius idea is to leave the concert footage alone! Don’t touch it much Bey! Light handed direction and editing. Mix in some interviews, rehearsal and studio footage and boom golden product. Year of 4 is probably the best Beyoncé documentary to me. 

1 minute ago, Massive_Teardrop said:

My genius idea is to leave the concert footage alone! Don’t touch it much Bey! Light handed direction and editing. Mix in some interviews, rehearsal and studio footage and boom golden product. Year of 4 is probably the best Beyoncé documentary to me. 

I agree, but think it's too early to start complaining that it's not that. We have one trailer.

53 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Anyways, it’s all a moot point now. She’s not going to change anything and hopefully she gets top 2 at the Box office. And at least does better than Katy Perry’s numbers. 
 

A music video would be good promo, cough Alien Superstar cough… tease everyone with something.

Katy’s first day was like 3 million  

 

It’s doing fine. Trailer should be on her TikTok, twitter and Facebook though. I don’t get why she agreed to let them open a TikTok for her and then not use it for the tour and this.
 

I really doubt she will do any promo or posts about it until the release day/week  

I like her narration 

 

yes the ASMR voice and filters can be retired.

6 minutes ago, Shelter said:

Katy’s first day was like 3 million  

 

It’s doing fine. Trailer should be on her TikTok, twitter and Facebook though. I don’t get why she agreed to let them open a TikTok for her and then not use it for the tour and this.
 

I really doubt she will do any promo or posts about it until the release day/week  

I meant overall gross lol 

 

She’s definitely not going to do any promo. That’s clear. I am wondering if these numbers will help her in negotiations for streaming with the visuals? Idk 

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Bey fans don’t strike me as the type to rush to buy presale tickets. Just look at the way her tour tickets sold - with most selling closer to the show date. Give it some time and let’s see how it plays out. 
 

What most intrigues me…Nia DiCosta is the first Black female director to debut a movie in the number 1 weekend spot with Candyman in 2021 - 20.4 M - The 2nd highest grossing opening weekend by a Black female director behind Ava DuVernay’s A Wrinkle in Time - 33.1 M. Renaissance has historic potential to further cement Bey’s legacy in ways we’re not even considering, and it really doesn’t require that much from her to do so. 

3 minutes ago, Tripthelight said:

Bey fans don’t strike me as the type to rush to buy presale tickets. Just look at the way her tour tickets sold - with most selling closer to the show date. Give it some time and let’s see how it plays out. 

We’re also older with schedules that can change in two months time. It’ll sell fine just like how her “flop” shows have all sold out by showtime.

I wasn't a huge fan of LIBAD, but I did love the interview segments. Just have Ed Burke interview her or better yet just sit down and see where the conversation goes, then edit around that instead of recording into your phone while you're in bed. 

 

I guess it's easier for her schedule to do it more on the fly whenever she feels like it.

Film Box office works different than tour sales. Pre sales are a good barometer of the anticipation of the film and how it will fare. I don’t think we can keep using age as an excuse. 

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2 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Film Box office works different than tour sales. Pre sales are a good barometer of the anticipation of the film and how it will fare. I don’t think we can keep using age as an excuse. 

But it’s presaling similar to marvel movies right? So I wouldn’t be this stressed tbh

6 minutes ago, Massive_Teardrop said:

But it’s presaling similar to marvel movies right? So I wouldn’t be this stressed tbh

Right but it’s a concert film not a marvel movie and won’t move big numbers on opening weekend. That’s why I said hopefully it will gross more than Katy perry and a top 2 debut. It’s a slow start.

 

“Early estimates for “Renaissance” suggest a potential $20+ million opening which is more in-line with most concert movies including “Michael Jackson’s This Is It” ($23.2 million) and “Justin Bieber: Never Say Never” ($29.5 million).”

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The numbers look good 

one thing we NEED is the live audio (ie. vocals) for AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM.

Why hasn’t AMC released their numbers though? Even the deadline article says it’s an estimate for now. Could it be lower or higher?

I'd rather them lowball tbh. 30-40M is where I would put this at 

I'm just so relieved that this is not Act II and we have that to look forward to.

37 minutes ago, swissman said:

one thing we NEED is the live audio (ie. vocals) for AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM.

that outro into PURE/HONEY 

 

i keep replaying my recording

I’m just now seeing that “what if Beyoncé chased the charts?” thread and I’m a bit gagged that ANYONE actually thinks she tries after seeing how she handled Formation  Did the schools not reopen after Covid died down? Is that it?