Just now, Otter said:

"Stay tuned for more details, as I have a feeling we’ll be hearing more about this project once legacy media outlets start asking Team Beyoncé for comment…"

I'm curious why this point was made

Maybe a joke because Yvette doesnt do anything 

Am I the only one who doesn't want cameos Gimmicky imo

Just now, XXX. said:

Who cares?

 

It’s not commentary on him, it’s his source.  
 

Reputable publications and people get bad intel all the time.  TMZ has accidentally reported people being dead before.

 

It happens.

So based on zero evidence that this is dodgy intel, you now expect us to disregard this tea from an actual legitimate and respected insider, which is now being reported by all huge film platforms like Deadline and compare him to a Twitter account that has 0 vetting process and just reposts everything anyone sends them?

 

No.

Just now, Mitsouko said:

Am I the only one who doesn't want cameos Gimmicky imo

Both Lemonade and BIK had them…

You better be prepared because Li**o is in them visuals. I feel it in my bones

3 minutes ago, Bicassie said:

Both Lemonade and BIK had them…

All the more reason to leave them out of this one

I wouldn’t be surprised about cameos in it. She was trying to get Britney. 

The Cameo will either be Barack or Michelle Obama, watch.

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

You better be prepared because Li**o is in them visuals. I feel it in my bones

Well they can edit her out. 

8 minutes ago, XXX. said:

Who cares?

 

It’s not commentary on him, it’s his source.  
 

Reputable publications and people get bad intel all the time.  TMZ has accidentally reported people being dead before.

 

It happens.

The source essentially just said no deal was done at the time 6months ago and it was recently being shopped, I wouldn't put too much weight on it being  "passed on" or "Bey not being happy with"... It was shown but not sold as the source was speculating as why it wasn't sold.

Edited August 31, 20233 yr by Otter

 

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HMD said:

“…select studios and streamers actually got a look at the project between four and six months ago, but they passed at the time.”

Excuse me?!

 

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They did because she was demanding a theatrical release and they didn’t want to pay for it

 

Tea from another f*r*m

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

You better be prepared because Li**o is in them visuals. I feel it in my bones

She's gonna twerk to Break My Soul, or Cozy or Thique, or all three 

4 minutes ago, Lovett said:

So based on zero evidence that this is dodgy intel, you now expect us to disregard this tea from an actual legitimate and respected insider, which is now being reported by all huge film platforms like Deadline and compare him to a Twitter account that has 0 vetting process and just reposts everything anyone sends them?

 

No.

YOU don’t have to disregard a thing.  Nor did I ever imply anyone needed to. 

 

I just don’t buy it. 

6 minutes ago, Otter said:

"Stay tuned for more details, as I have a feeling we’ll be hearing more about this project once legacy media outlets start asking Team Beyoncé for comment…"

I'm curious why this point was made

Because a leak turns into a flood and artists always want to pre-empt more info coming out. So when the other outlets start asking for info and Parkwood realizes things are starting to leak, they'll probably get ahead of the story and do something to announce it on their own terms. We've even seen it happen with Bey a few times. 

29 minutes ago, Otter said:

Or she's out of her depth or overestimates the value of this individual piece of work... It's not like she hasn't flopped or released duds in her recent past

I won't say too much more on this toopic but we've seen that being a huge musician doesn't mean you can that power into viewship of a movie. We also haven't seen the film whilst they have (at least a version of it). But either way we're 100% getting these visuals and anything could of happened between early 2023 and now... For all we know, one of the studios could of suggested reshoots/re-edit etc. Main thing is its clearly coming 

But RENAISSNACE is neither a dud nor a flop.

 

The success of the album, its singles (CUFF IT, mainly with very little push whatsoever) and its tour (today named the best selling female tour of all time) all point to this era being ANYTHING but a dud or a flop, not to mention its cult following and its massive critical acclaim meaning it should have considerable cultural interest. And most of this was well proven 4-6 months ago.

 

My point was that I commend Beyoncé for not lowering her asking price just because streamers didn't have faith in her.

 

I feel like Beyoncé has touched upon this before in her graduation speech (or something else): where she said that if she wasn't offered room at the table, she'll make it herself. That may take time and more work but in the end it's something more alike to what you deserve. I know that's different than talk of ROI for streamers, but I appreciate her taking a stance FOR HER ART and not giving into what the powers that be tell her, hearing "ya music films don't do well for us" and lowering her price accordingly. It's not the first time she's told the industry what's up, and changed the way people think about her art and by extension the art of others, and I'm glad about that. This is an industry who routinely has not taken women's work as seriously as men's; or Black creative's work as seriously as white creators; or queer content not as seriously as straight content... I like that she had the confidence to say "no."

 

Whether she's overestimated it or not doesn't matter to me.

 

 

Edited August 31, 20233 yr by swissman

The mute challenge is over it seems 

 

they’re not even trying

 

2 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

The Cameo will either be Barack or Michelle Obama, watch.

But we can see that coming

https://www.instagram.com/p/CvXuDHmpAul/

 

Posted July 31, 2023.

 

Okay Ms Nadia

Just now, Lovett said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CvXuDHmpAul/

 

Posted July 31, 2023.

3 minutes ago, Otter said:

The source essentially just said no deal was done at the time 6months ago and it was recently being shopped, I wouldn't put too much weight on it being  "passed on" or "Bey not being happy with"... It was shown but not sold as the source was speculating as why it wasn't sold.

Tbh Bey shouldn’t even have to show it. They should be jumping at the chance to buy it. There is definitely more to this than we know. I don’t buy the “she isn’t happy with it”. If she wasn’t happy with it, then why would she be showing it to buyers. There is probably something in the deal that they weren’t happy with. 

New rumor on the internet streets is act ii is a DC reunion album. Their website is down and it says something about 25 years. 

Just now, swissman said:

But RENAISSNACE is neither a dud nor a flop.

 

The success of the album, its singles (CUFF IT, mainly with very little push whatsoever) and its tour (today named the best selling female tour of all time) all point to this era being ANYTHING but a dud or a flop, not to mention its cult following and its massive critical acclaim meaning it should have considerable cultural interest.

 

My point was that I commend Beyoncé for not lowering her asking price just because streamers didn't have faith in her.

 

I feel like Beyoncé has touched upon this before in her graduation speech (or something else): where she said that if she wasn't offered room at the table, she'll make it herself. And that may take time and more work but in the end it's something more alike to what you deserve. I know that's a bit different than talking ROI of streamers, but I do appreciate her taking as stance FOR HER ART and not just giving into what the powers that be tell her, just hearing "um, ya music films don't do well for us" and lowering her price accordingly. It's not the first time she's told the industry what's up, and changed the way people think about her art and by extension the art of others, and I'm glad about that. This is an industry who routinely has not taken women's work as seriously as men's; Black creative's work as seriously as white creators; queer content not as seriously as straight content... I like that she had the confidence to say "no."

 

Whether she's overestimated it or not doesn't matter to me.

Just regarding your first point. Neither Rennie or Cuff It are A class hits, they're not sittingat the top of 2022 singles or album sales/streams on the global stage. They're like a solid B. The tour is mega but that's through Bey's legacy. None of this translates into the success of a film. Coldplay may be able to gross 1b in tour revenue but they're not drawing the GP to the cinema or streaming platforms, entirely different mediums and requirements.  

 

1 minute ago, Lovett said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CvXuDHmpAul/

 

Posted July 31, 2023.

Unintentionally i’m sharing it today, August 29, which happens to be the exact day we filmed this one year ago.

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CwiVinlPk7f/

 

One thing about Miss Carter is that she's a horny woman with a hazardous ceiling mirror and a capitalist. So her knowing her worth and looking for the biggest bidder is no surprise to me!