I've always gone up for "Boss Bey" and I'm oddly titillated by the stand-off she seems to be staging. She's likely asking for big bucks. a) because it cost her a lot to produce, b) to turn a huge profit, and c) she's likely seeking a big promotional commitment. 

 

At the same time, it's hard not to be frustrated. Sometimes, just give the people what they want.

 

Sitting on a visual that's getting older and older (and thus losing its commercial value) doesn't feel all that savvy either. 

 

...At the same time, lowballing herself only f*cks her over in the future with the next film. Cue 2028 convo: "why should we pay you x milli now when you took x milli for Ren film?"

 

It's a catch 22. 

 

I just hope this quest for coins doesn't see the visual end up on some obscure platform like Apple TV. 

1 minute ago, Shelter said:

This doesn’t go well if she is planning another film for other acts. It will probably put her off.
 

Isn’t it possible she wants a deal for all 3 acts so maybe that’s the hold up? 

If the next acts are less ostentatious in imagery she could easily get away with short films for each or even just a couple of music videos.

3 minutes ago, Shelter said:

That deal with Netflix was probably for live shows/documentary, not some high budget film. 

This. If there's RWT film or documentary on her during the covid and recording, filming rehearsing and foot injury, it'll go to Netflix as the part of the deal

Just now, Cbreezy said:

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I just hope this quest for coins doesn't see the visual end up on some obscure platform like Apple TV. 

At this point idgaf if she puts it on Quibi as long as she releases it ASAP

Guys watch this…

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Music videos aren't as big as they once were so it's absolutely true there would be concern about a whole feature length film's replay value.

 

That said, it further points out in the article the strike is probably making studios hungry for content and a lot of execs will be at the LA show this weekend so that's optimistic.

I just think that there is inherent replay value in a pop visual album based solely on the fact that pop fans re-watch music videos. The average person might just see it once, but RENAISSANCE has a cult following, there's no way its fans are going to turn it on and never go back. Do people watch a film and then re-watch it the following evening? Admittedly, I haven't watched either Lemonade or Black is King in some time BUT upon release I watched them each at least 5 times within the first week. Even for films I absolutely loved, I don't go back to them for months if not years. Could just be me though...

 

21 minutes ago, Machete said:

I mean if the price was HUGE but they're getting a ready-and-willing to promote Bey then it would be an instant take... It's the paying a HUGE price but then getting zero promotion from her besides an IG post then another IG post from her mom 10 months later accusing you of racism for "not promoting" combo that is probably turning people off. 

I guess? I mean it's Beyoncé, in 2020 everyone knew she didn't promote. Realistically, the promotion of a film should be handled by the studio not the actors, directors, etc. But I definitely see your point because the actors and directors do participate in promotion. And I think Tina had a point about the awards, if it was a white artist who made that film. The biggest/most prestigious nomination was for costuming at the Primetime Emmys (it won) and Best Film at the Grammys (it lost).

 

Anyway, I think streamers are getting cheap anyway, they want easy wins, and if Beyoncé is pricing it high for sure I can see them wondering if it'll be worth it (especially if they were judging Black is King as the indicator of its possible success and not say, Homecoming).

 

 

Edited August 31, 20233 yr by swissman

A whole year of theorizing that something happened, the film being scrapped, she was photoshopping everything, waiting for a astrology event, waiting for the tour to start, WE are the visuals, the teasing of Echoville, only for it to be revealed that nobody wanted to buy the stupid film for 6 months wow

 

11 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

Very inclined to believe this. The source is solid and is so left of usual music "insider" tea that it would be too random to not be true. 

 

Lots of thoughts. 

 

Hopefully, this silences the gworls screaming that the visuals were scrapped. At the same time this appears to explain the delay. 

 

I love our girl, but not putting this out in tandem with the album may bite her in the a** (see: the whole "concerns about replay value"). 

 

I doubt this was passed on in the conventional sense. Every streamer would want a piece of the Beyonce pie. But if she's asking for a sh*t load of money (which I imagine is the case to cover costs and turn a great profit) then that's where the issue may lie. 

 

The "weird" angle seems to line-up with the theories around Echoville etc. 

 

I imagine we'll see this in some form, but it'll be interesting to see where it lands. 

Nothing is biting her in the ass, the TOUR is all the self promo she needs right now...literally the 2nd biggest tour of the year. She knows her worth and has every right to ask for it.

Directed by Nadia Lee Cohen

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, SashaDevachelli said:

A whole year of theorizing that something happened, the film being scrapped, she was photoshopping everything, waiting for a astrology event, waiting for the tour to start, WE are the visuals, the teasing of Echoville, only for it to be revealed that nobody wanted to buy the stupid film for 6 months wow

 

 

1 minute ago, SashaDevachelli said:

A whole year of theorizing that something happened, the film being scrapped, she was photoshopping everything, waiting for a astrology event, waiting for the tour to start, WE are the visuals, the teasing of Echoville, only for it to be revealed that nobody wanted to buy the stupid film for 6 months wow

 

You really are the worst type of fan. Is that all you got from what was said? They want to buy it but the price is way too high, knowing bey she's asking for an insane amount. Its not because they don't want it

1 minute ago, SashaDevachelli said:

A whole year of theorizing that something happened, the film being scrapped, she was photoshopping everything, waiting for a astrology event, waiting for the tour to start, WE are the visuals, the teasing of Echoville, only for it to be revealed that nobody wanted to buy the stupid film for 6 months wow

 

and she’d rather see it unsold and collecting dust somewhere in a vault than release it for less

Money is one thing, but who wants to collaborate with THE Beyonce if they cant even be sure that their input/creativity/expertise will ever see the light of day because of greed?

As a creative, I'd think twice of working with her the next time tbh. After all, you invest time, effort and creative energy for literally nothing

 

Shes shooting herself in the foot with that in the longrun. 

Edited August 31, 20233 yr by Kristie Kuwa

4 minutes ago, Bicassie said:

Guys watch this…

 

 

 

Sometimes i wonder if bey has more haters in this thread than fans...cause the way some of you just talk so recklessly about her is...something

1 minute ago, Kingdom said:

Sometimes i wonder if bey has more haters in this thread than fans...cause the way some of you just talk so recklessly about her is...something

Does her pinky ring taste nice? Do tell us please 

1 minute ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Shes shooting herself in the foot with that in the longrun. 

Is that why she had the injury? 

Just now, Kristie Kuwa said:

Money is one thing, but who wants to collaborate with THE Beyonce if they cant even be sure that their input/creativity/expertise will ever see the light of day because of greed.

As a creative, I'd think twice of working with her the next time tbh.

 

Shes shooting herself in the foot with that in the longrun. 

So now she’s selfsabotaging her streaming deals…

Just now, Jon Snow said:

Is that why she had the injury? 

Just now, Kingdom said:

Nothing is biting her in the ass, the TOUR is all the self promo she needs right now...literally the 2nd biggest tour of the year. She knows her worth and has every right to ask for it.

I beg to differ. 

 

Yes, the tour is slaying. 

 

However, if (for example) she spent $20 million making visuals and can't bag a deal for at least $40 million (excluding the streamer's promotional spend) commitment, then it's a loss-making venture. Which is the likely reason she's playing hardball. The math HAS to math. 

 

I love our girl, but it's entirely possible for her to have compartmentalized wins and compartmentalized losses/challenges. 

 

 

5 hours ago, carameldelight said:

An unfortunate likelihood. 

 

 

5 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

She's back.... something is coming

 

She's not always there when you call, but Viola is always on time.

 

14 minutes ago, XXX. said:

My only issue with the article is that it reads sort of like conjecture in the same breath of trying to report studios passed on it.  You can’t report something was passed on because studios felt there was no replay value, but then in the next line say there’s no deal because Beyoncé might be unhappy with the finished product.

 

That makes it all sound like speculation as to why it hasn’t dropped.  
 

Nevertheless, I’m just happy it’s being reported.  Maybe we’re close. 

They state that is speculation

"Asked why, the source could only speculate, saying, “I’m guessing the price and lack of replay value for the casual viewer” is why it hasn’t sold yet, though they also suggested the possibility that “maybe Beyoncé didn’t like how it turned out? I don’t know…”

The announcement should happen soon. Probably someone already bought it...

 

 

We are at the end of the month...

 

She probably asked for like 100m or something  Queen is used to getting massive checks but the streaming service game has changed. She needs to just sell it and cut her losses

Like the article says, I hope she's struck a "stealth deal".

 

She "could" always go the theatrical release route, but much as we love her, there aren't any guarantees with $$$ gross in the way there are guarantees with a check from a streamer. 

 

I hope this tea spill forces the hand of whoever she's in partnership with to spill the tea. 

 

Remember how we got the Netflix deal tea via a tabloid and literally a few weeks later Homecoming was announced? Same ish with Disney and BIK.