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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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4 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

but the actual general sale is still tomorrow right ? :jonny5:

Yes. 

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Just now, BnPac said:

Yes. 

whew thank you ! idk what to do then… i don’t wanna pay 800€ for VIP 6 but i’m also too scared to wait for tomorrow to try and snatch regular Golden tickets :clownny:

3 hours ago, BnPac said:

I have my tickets for Barcelona. :party: :party: :party: :party:


For those looking for tickets outside the US. 

Here : https://shops.ticketmasterpartners.com/renaissance-2023

You're a GOD SENT!

I didn't get what was happening and suddenly I clicked on your link and saw that I could get those ones??

 

THIS is the kind of presales I like! Very niche!!! THANK YOU! I'm going to see her with a friend of mine in Marseille!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm SHAKING!!!

The whole AOTY thing really perplexes me, because she's clearly respected by everyone there. It's so bizarre.

 

46 minutes ago, Summertime Love said:

Is she allowed to submit any more songs from Renaissance for the next Grammys? Just asking. 

Someone here told me that she's not allowed if she wins an award for the album. I assume that includes Best Dance/Electronic Album, so she won't be able.

 

However, she might still be able to submit remixes (and live tracks). Does anyone know about that?

 

And I guess she could be nominated in the Best Music Video and Best Music Film categories

5 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

The whole AOTY thing really perplexes me, because she's clearly respected by everyone there. It's so bizarre.

 

They could be standing just so they won't get attacked for not standing later on Twitter. Also, this is just a very select few of the voting committee. 

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Its the same 3 Swifties running in every Grammy thread to discuss Bey more than the Hive atp. :deadbanana4:

I believe she's no longer going to do award show performances. Maybe some random in the future, but certainly not at the Grammys. A couple of days/weeks some guy said in an interview that she wouldn't do Be Alive at the Oscars, if it wasn't for him. He claimed that B said that she doesn't do that anymore. I don't really remember what was said, put I think I got the point. I'm starting to believe she's done. I can understand her

 

Also, I hope she continues submitting to the Grammys. She'd get much more awards, at least in the R&B categories and she'd secure her records. She'd keep on proving she was done wrong. However, she might stop showing up since there's nothing new for her there. She reached the top, and now she's got a chance to be petty 

Y'all, i got Renaissance tickets. 97 days til i see Beyoncé live

:WAP:

1 minute ago, Devin said:

Its the same 3 Swifties running in every Grammy thread to discuss Bey more than the Hive atp. :deadbanana4:

Yea remind me never to leave this base again... The comments are so disgusting and vile and full of jealousy.

Imagine having so much hate for a woman that minds her damn business and makes music.

I guess a sold out tour is really where the TRUE love is and i glad i'm gonna be apart of it :WAP:

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I believe she's no longer going to do award show performances. Maybe some random in the future, but certainly not at the Grammys. A couple of days/weeks some guy said in an interview that she wouldn't do Be Alive at the Oscars, if it wasn't for him. He claimed that B said that she doesn't do that anymore. I don't really remember what was said, put I think I got the point. I'm starting to believe she's done. I can understand her

 

Also, I hope she continues submitting to the Grammys. She'd get much more awards, at least in the R&B categories and she'd secure her records. She'd keep on proving she was done wrong. However, she might stop showing up since there's nothing new for her there. She reached the top, and now she's got a chance to be petty 

I totally agree, i don't think we should expect any award show performance from her in the future. I kinda get it why as well.

14 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

The whole AOTY thing really perplexes me, because she's clearly respected by everyone there. It's so bizarre.

 

That's beautiful. Yes, she is. 

I really didn't expect her to win AOTY, so I am not upset at all. Outside of the fact that a black woman hasn't won in a long time, Renaissance is too left field to won such a general award. AOTY would be cool but she's still Beyoncé. 

Also she should always submit!!

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58 minutes ago, Summertime Love said:

Is she allowed to submit any more songs from Renaissance for the next Grammys? Just asking. 

No, Renaissance won an album category. All songs are void next year except for ROTY, she can get into Music Video and Music Film but that would imply visuals. 

10 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

The whole AOTY thing really perplexes me, because she's clearly respected by everyone there. It's so bizarre.

 

I think the problem at this point is Beyonce is known quantity. That's the impression I got from those anonymous voters and their comments. They see her name and they're like "oh her again. Anyway...."

 

We assume voters are objectively listening to the music itself to determine the winners, when in reality lots of these voters seem to make their most of their decision based off looking at the artist, song/album and if they've heard of it, and then the list of credits.

 

8 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Someone here told me that she's not allowed if she wins an award for the album. I assume that includes Best Dance/Electronic Album, so she won't be able.

 

However, she might still be able to submit remixes (and live tracks). Does anyone know about that?

 

And I guess she could be nominated in the Best Music Video and Best Music Film categories

You're allowed to submit live versions of songs afterwards I think. That's how Adele and GaGa won best pop vocal for Set Fire to the Rain and Joanne despite the original versions of those songs being released prior to the eligibility period.

15 minutes ago, Tangane said:

You're a GOD SENT!

I didn't get what was happening and suddenly I clicked on your link and saw that I could get those ones??

 

THIS is the kind of presales I like! Very niche!!! THANK YOU! I'm going to see her with a friend of mine in Marseille!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm SHAKING!!!

Happy for you. :party:

 

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1 minute ago, MrPiggyMoka said:

Yea remind me never to leave this base again... The comments are so disgusting and vile and full of jealousy.

Imagine having so much hate for a woman that minds her damn business and makes music.

I guess a sold out tour is really where the TRUE love is and i glad i'm gonna be apart of it :WAP:

That part. 
 

Its just funny how they made all them pre-Grammy threads to get a rise and now running into more threads bringing her name up. :lmao:

I’m confused about the Europe thing. I clicked on the link and was able to reserve tickets for Club Renaissance in Germany :rip:. I’m not going just wanted to try. I thought you would need a code since it was the Beyhive presale or it would just be more difficult/expensive in general 

Waking up to Harry Styles being dragged on Twitter and Beyoncé praise is quite a morning :clap3:

3 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

I’m confused about the Europe thing. I clicked on the link and was able to reserve tickets for Club Renaissance in Germany :rip:. I’m not going just wanted to try. I thought you would need a code since it was the Beyhive presale or it would just be more difficult/expensive in general 

i was wondering the same  thing? 

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2 minutes ago, Planet Mars said:

Waking up to Harry Styles being dragged on Twitter and Beyoncé praise is quite a morning :clap3:

:skull:

2 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

The whole AOTY thing really perplexes me, because she's clearly respected by everyone there. It's so bizarre.

 


The best way to intellectualise it is that most of the people in this base totally dismissed Beck's album "Morning Phase" because its not their thing. Even if they listened to it in full, they would probably be bored to death. The album however is acclaimed and loved by people who listened to alt & soft rock. A lot of Grammy voters are traditionalist and straight male. Regardless of respect, their votes are really personal preference based on tastes & ideals.

Unlike music critique which is often to given to genre specialists or people expert in dissecting music within its context and craft, most Grammy voters will just do it based on the whims of their taste and feelings. It's really not confusing when for the last few years all the AOTY are mellow, midtempo, almost linear genre pieces which satisifies a cerain palatte. Beyonce always wins specialist categories because it puts her music in context of other work the voters don't care for :priceless:

 The way Beyonce just reentered my Top 10 Last FM for the past 90 days

 

See when she delivers, I deliver:jonnycat: I was over it

1 hour ago, family.guy123 said:

Majority of the songs on this album were written by one person . 

It's an album of covers, with each song having its own writers, producers, composers, and original performers that existed before it was ever compiled into an album by RP and AK. If that's worthy of AOTY, the argument about ~artistry~ and ~originality~ is and always has been another bullsh*t goalpost that they've set up to exclude Beyoncé because they have some paternalistic attitude that it's their job to "humble" her.

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