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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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15 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said:

I believe MOVE is the most underrated. It’s about time some Hive members admit that it’s better than HEATED. 

 

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As a HEATED stan :skull: even I can admit MOVE doesn’t get enough attention.


the song slaps esp at 2:18 to the end. :jonny5:

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13 minutes ago, Wizard said:

nah but cozy > ASS

 

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Now this IS a convo some aren’t ready for.

 

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COZY PLASTIC and MOVE all get swept under the rug and SUMMER RENAISSANCE is a perfect pop song don’t see enough love for that one either 

I love all 16 tracks, but I have to cut things a little short Pure/Honey is the last song on Renaissance.

Cozy is still one of my favorites from the album... when she paints the rainbow in the lyrics :ihype:

Church God is definitely the most disrespected, underrated and neglected song on Renaissance.

Ugh I just watched scissors new video. It was cute. Reading the comments and they going awf and stanning for they fave. I’m jealous. I can’t relate.

I see that All Up in Your Rectum stans continue to live in la la land

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Cozy remains the underrated track, the rainbow lyrics are honestly a career highlight:bird:

7 hours ago, Space&Time said:

When we want to really experience Beyoncé’s direct contributions to her lyrics in these last few years we have of course Church Girl, but Formation is really the one she dipped her whole ******* foot in and you can feel it.

What’s the source for her writing all the lyrics herself?

2 hours ago, bijonse said:

COZY PLASTIC and MOVE all get swept under the rug and SUMMER RENAISSANCE is a perfect pop song don’t see enough love for that one either 

I wish Summer Renaissance was a bit more “clean” or had better lyrics, someone mentioned that was part of the big radio appeal for Break My Soul, it’s a full on clean song. SR would do amazing on the radio. 
 

With Cuff It she’s dropping bombs left and right but had a great clean version which I actually prefer at times. Most of the time it’s just the fucc word which can easily be replaced with almost anything. 
 

Underrated are Energy, SR, AUIYM, Break My Soul, Honey 

 

Overrated, ASS and Virgos Groove

2 hours ago, Space&Time said:

I love all 16 tracks, but I have to cut things a little short Pure/Honey is the last song on Renaissance.

Ooopp!

 

Summer Ren is also kind of a miss for me. Like I love bits and pieces but it doesn't gel as a whole for me. A lot of the other songs have great lyrical concepts and it's just kind of there... The last minute of it is a great outro though.

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My money is kinda looking right lately so can she announce this tour in February forreal. I’ve been on edge waiting for the announcement since BMS dropped :jonny:

 

AND IT NEEDS TO BE STADIUMS ONLY LIKEEEEEEE SHE IS NOT A DOWNGRADE KIND OF GIRL. Nothing matches the feeling of that many people bopping to the music in one place and this time I’m gonna be close I’ll max out whatever cards I need to. My boyfriend is worried I’m gonna overspend on the tickets but he won’t care when he’s getting his life at the show :gaycat5:

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34 minutes ago, bijonse said:

My money is kinda looking right lately so can she announce this tour in February forreal. I’ve been on edge waiting for the announcement since BMS dropped :jonny:

 

AND IT NEEDS TO BE STADIUMS ONLY LIKEEEEEEE SHE IS NOT A DOWNGRADE KIND OF GIRL. Nothing matches the feeling of that many people bopping to the music in one place and this time I’m gonna be close I’ll max out whatever cards I need to. My boyfriend is worried I’m gonna overspend on the tickets but he won’t care when he’s getting his life at the show :gaycat5:

The only scenario where I am happy with the "downgrade" is if she does a mixed tour with more intimate dates and then stadiums in tandem.

If she is coming to Aus my plan is seated in Adelaide where I live with my mother (always been a dream to see Bey with her) and then VIP pit tickets for Melbourne. I'll be pissed if she doesn't announce Aus with the inevitable EU, NA leg because then I'll be inclined to travel as I wouldn't want to risk it.

If they go with an arena, that’s because their research is showing the demand is arena-level. A LOT of money is invested into market research as it pertains to an artists’ touring demand. 
 

It makes sense that she’d do arenas in some countries and cities as that’s always better optics than performing to half-empty stadiums. That has nothing to do with optics and is all about conducting smart business. 

If you’re not near the stage, stadium shows are dismal :deadvision: I would not mind an arena at all but I doubt she’d deign to play one

3 hours ago, Bey Admired said:

If they go with an arena, that’s because their research is showing the demand is arena-level. A LOT of money is invested into market research as it pertains to an artists’ touring demand. 
 

It makes sense that she’d do arenas in some countries and cities as that’s always better optics than performing to half-empty stadiums. That has nothing to do with optics and is all about conducting smart business. 

I get you, but this approach doesn't apply to Bey IMO.

 

I don't see her doing arenas outside of some purposeful, unique hybrid of touring (major stadium spectacle +intimate arena shows).

 

This is not the Bey of yesteryear who would work overtime to "prove" her hunger with 100+ date tours. These days is "do less for maximum returns". A status she's earned. It's exactly why 40-ish stadium date tours suit her life much more.

 

She'd sooner totally skip any cities where research shows there "isn't demand" than do an arena show there "just because". 

 

Plus. her shows aren't a small scale affair. It's virtually impossible to adapt something like FWT to an arena and I don't see her scaling back to scrape a few more coins. There's no ROI in that.

 

So, yeah, it's either totally stadiums or some arenas for a very very specific reason related to the era at large.

Some are just rumors started by whoever and should not be taken as facts. At this stage of her career if a country or city dont have enough high demand for Beyoncé, she will just skip the damn country or city and move on lol. She wont change a full concert that was designed for a stadium to fit into an arena. When she changed to stadiums, that was it, she ain't going back because she produces her tours in house with Parkwood and it's done months in advance.

I actually think most of the renaissance songs fit very well in a stadium. They're big dance songs, they should be experienced in an epic setting. Also at this stage in her career/popularity if she did anything less than stadiums the prices would be ridiculous

She played to 36k over 2 nights in Portugal last time. That’s enough for a stadium. I don’t mind her doing big arenas, as it means she is not restricted on when and where to go. Maybe places like Asia will be arenas? 

I like AUIYM. The problem I have is that loud as outro. It’s either A, overproduced, or B, poorly mixed.

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