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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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I’m over the visuals. Please just release act II and III. She can release the visuals in 2030 and have all the time to perfect it :giraffe: 

 

I just know it’s a lot of work having to learn all the choreos for every song, but ***** should had at least communicated better. So sick of her ART not chart antic sometimes

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11 minutes ago, kimberly said:

this base is like clockwork, we go from complaining to celebrating crumbs then back to complaining...

 

we have a whole masterpiece of an album, and she's still "promoting" to some extent. if the private parties are gonna get the Kar-Jenners to make TikToks and IG videos with every song on the album like Kylie's been doing, then it's still doing something I guess, idk.

 

and not to mention we are in the dark about what's coming next — I think complaining about the unknown territory ahead of us is one thing, but saying the rollout is entirely messy or she's changed her mind about the visuals or whatever seems like a reach. the album is doing great on the charts, we have an organic hit brewing, and we just got Summer Ren commercial + Paris celebration. "CUFF IT" goes for pop radio adds Oct. 18, and it's already climbing on other genre formats. call me delusional but I think we're mostly out of the woods? tour announcement is allegedly this month, and who's to say visuals aren't coming before then? have some hope, people. soak in the album and our patience will pay off.

We got this? Im supposed to feel grateful for an ad that doesnt even address me cause Im clearly not the target audience? And the Paris celebration included us where exactly? That one blurry pic that was taken by Bey? Lol.

 

Yes, Cuff It doing Gods work right now and I'll admit it helped me raise my mood regarding Rennies rollout, but yall are trying way too hard to justifie this non-existing era so far lol.

 

We should all be thanking Columbia for stepping in.

 

At the end of the day, Bey is an amazing musician and visionary, however that doesnt make her an amazing music manager.

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36 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

We got this? Im supposed to feel grateful for an ad that doesnt even address me cause Im clearly not the target audience? And the Paris celebration included us where exactly? That one blurry pic that was taken by Bey? Lol.

 

Yes, Cuff It doing Gods work right now and I'll admit it helped me raise my mood regarding Rennies rollout, but yall are trying way too hard to justifie this non-existing era so far lol.

 

We should all be thanking Columbia for stepping in.

 

At the end of the day, Bey is an amazing musician and visionary, however that doesnt make her an amazing music manager.

Maybe you’re just not her target demographic anymore. It’s okay. 

29 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

We got this? Im supposed to feel grateful for an ad that doesnt even address me cause Im clearly not the target audience?

the reaching just to complain :dies: we got a mini music video baby I'm comfortable but I'm not in the Tiffany tax bracket either. it's a video paying tribute to ballroom culture, and if you are LGBTQ+ that's something that's really cool and for us.

 

32 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

And the Paris celebration included us where exactly? That one blurry pic that was taken by Bey? Lol.

she's doing promo and creating social media buzz. many of the attendees posted their looks, directly tagging Beyoncé or using her songs. it's not *for you* specifically but I don't think an artist's promo cycle should be expected to cater to *me*. I guess we disagree on that. I'll be happy to get visuals and tour tickets, my vinyl and box set I paid for got delivered August 3rd. I got what I need! she delivered what she promised.

 

once again, is Beyoncé alienating fans a bit? yeah, but when hasn't she? did anyone expect after turning 40 she would suddenly want to be active on TikTok and start going on late night shows? what are we expecting here? visuals are confirmed to be on the way, tour is speculated to be announced soon, and we have an incredible album to listen to while we wait.

8 hours ago, Cbreezy said:

Her solo success markers have always been (at the bare minimum): #1 charting album, big first week sales, a "hit" single from the era, and a huge tour. 

 

At the same time, she's become a master at concealing anything that makes the brand look weak and working her woes into wins

 

Bey may be irritating us atm with her antics, but she's very much still playing the MPG game. We're not quite at Prince / art-not-charts with her yet. Especially when songs are being worked at radio, big visual deals are in place, and she continues to play the retail game,  

This is exactly how I feel. Could this era have been handled better and smashed harder? Sure. Like you said, she has still hit all the markers for success, with Cuff it finally given the keys to a successful run, even with the lack of visual.

I'm surprised at how nonchalant I am feeling regarding the visuals. Knowing they are coming at some point, along with a tour and the potential of two more albums, has kept me quite content. 

The only wishes I have remaining for this era are:
Her coming to Australia and actually doing a "World Tour" that includes more than EU and USA.
My Collectors Edition Vinyl miraculously appearing on my doorstep (not ever happening) :smiley:
Heated getting a remix and smashing after Cuff it has done gods work.

Make it happen Bey.

In the meantime I'm going to continue to enjoy her best album to date, with hopes that she somehow one-ups herself with Act II and III.

3 hours ago, Kh-Loud said:

I’m over the visuals. Please just release act II and III. She can release the visuals in 2030 and have all the time to perfect it :giraffe: 

 

I just know it’s a lot of work having to learn all the choreos for every song, but ***** should had at least communicated better. So sick of her ART not chart antic sometimes

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This is what Im saying. Its a shame but its time to move on

3 hours ago, family.guy123 said:

Maybe you’re just not her target demographic anymore. It’s okay. 

Neither are you then lol

I have finally secured and locked my coin for the Mrs Tiffany Carter World Tour 

 

Let's gooo! Announce the tour bey I'm ready! 

 

 

(it'll be my first time)

I’m so glad Cuff It is becoming THAT *****! An anthem! 
 

The first song which got replay. Classic Beyoncé! 

9 hours ago, G'Day said:

It’s been cold and rainy for the last 4-5 days so I’m not touching any grass in this weather. You’re on the same website I’m on right now, enough of this “touch some grass, read a book” nonsense. 

There’s a select few (including yourself) who are clearly bothered by how Beyoncé is handling this era. It’s like y’all are in constant pain and anguish. Is there nothing else to do rather than complain about this woman and her career? That’s the difference between us. Not going to pop a blood vessel over it. That’s where the “read a book” comes in. If she’s not worried why are you? Touch some grass, distract, your self. Idk :coffee2:

8 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said:

There’s a select few (including yourself) who are clearly bothered by how Beyoncé is handling this era. It’s like y’all are in constant pain and anguish. Is there nothing else to do rather than complain about this woman and her career? That’s the difference between us. Not going to pop a blood vessel over it. That’s where the “read a book” comes in. If she’s not worried why are you? Touch some grass, distract, your self. Idk :coffee2:

And there's a select few (including yourself) who are clearly bothered with fans who invest into the brand that is Beyonce complaining about the waste of potential and non-existing interaction with said fans. It's like y'all wanna live in this constant bubble. Is reality so bad to you that u need to create this utopia about this woman and her career? That's the difference between us. Not going to pop a blood vessel over it. That's where the "stop complaining about complainers" comes in. If she's not worried about us fans why are you? Touch some grass, distract, your self. Idk :coffee2:

2 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

And there's a select few (including yourself) who are clearly bothered with fans who invest into the brand that is Beyonce complaining about the waste of potential and non-existing interaction with said fans. It's like y'all wanna live in this constant bubble. Is reality so bad to you that u need to create this utopia about this woman and her career? That's the difference between us. Not going to pop a blood vessel over it. That's where the "stop complaining about complainers" comes in. If she's not worried about us fans why are you? Touch some grass, distract, your self. Idk :coffee2:

It would be one thing if Beyoncé was seeing all these “concerns” regarding her career. We’re actually seeing the meltdowns, while she’s in her mansion, watching house of dragons or something. It’s a bit… concerning to see y’all Health deteriorate over another woman’s career when clearly she’s ok with that’s going on. Again, go touch some grass or read a book 

2 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said:

It would be one thing if Beyoncé was seeing all these “concerns” regarding her career. We’re actually seeing the meltdowns, while she’s in her mansion, watching house of dragons or something. It’s a bit… concerning to see y’all Health deteriorate over another woman’s career when clearly she’s ok with that’s going on. Again, go touch some grass or read a book 

Ur "higher than thou" attitude is, in my opinion, pretty stupid. You fail to make a difference between consumer and fan. Of course as a fan you are emotionally involved and don't "just" consume the final product. Per definition fans are not just there to buy the album and call it a day. Most of us have been fans of Beyonce since 1997, we are clearly invested in much more than just her musical output. We've invested and still are investing much more time in Beyonce, her music, her life, her choices than a regular consumer. And as a fan, we all have every right to complain about this detachment, illogical and unfinished rollout and this ever-ongoing guessing that is neither fun nor exciting.

Maybe you are just not a fan in that sense, but that's a you problem then. You are in no position to tell people to touch some grass or read a book, and if it's too much negativity for you to take, maybe you should just log off. :coffee2:

I’m still totally satisfied with cuff it being released. I’m good on the visuals for now, I just wanted her to at least send a track out 

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2 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

I’m still totally satisfied with cuff it being released. I’m good on the visuals for now, I just wanted her to at least send a track out 

This exactly. I was more pissed if she passed up doing anything with Cuff It. After the first listen it gave me future classic.

 

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10 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

I’m still totally satisfied with cuff it being released. I’m good on the visuals for now, I just wanted her to at least send a track out 

Right :celestial2:

17 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said:

It would be one thing if Beyoncé was seeing all these “concerns” regarding her career. We’re actually seeing the meltdowns, while she’s in her mansion, watching house of dragons or something. It’s a bit… concerning to see y’all Health deteriorate over another woman’s career when clearly she’s ok with that’s going on. Again, go touch some grass or read a book 

Literally. It’s obvious they use Beyoncé’s career and accomplishments as some kind of proxy for theirs, which are probably nonexistent. And yes, Beyoncé and Parkwood still knows better than they do. I’m super satisfied with the album, the success of the album & singles, and the upcoming tour. I think it all boils down to having a life.

 

anyway, I can’t wait til the week after next. The tour announcement is literally all I’m waiting on.

I wonder why the other stanbases are being pressed again? It was relatively peaceful with attack for a while there. 

 

Anyway, I am quite happy CI was sent to radio, I hope we get the video or some promo eventually. I still wonder if she filmed all those celebs on skates for CI. It seems like a great idea. 

5 minutes ago, BnPac said:

I wonder why the other stanbases are being pressed again? It was relatively peaceful with attack for a while there.  

BMS being pulled from radio and it falling in the charts… Still a bigger single than anything Taylor or Gaga have released this decade.

 

Joke’s on them because Cuff It is shaping up to be even bigger.

5 hours ago, kimberly said:

the reaching just to complain :dies: we got a mini music video baby I'm comfortable but I'm not in the Tiffany tax bracket either. it's a video paying tribute to ballroom culture, and if you are LGBTQ+ that's something that's really cool and for us.

 

she's doing promo and creating social media buzz. many of the attendees posted their looks, directly tagging Beyoncé or using her songs. it's not *for you* specifically but I don't think an artist's promo cycle should be expected to cater to *me*. I guess we disagree on that. I'll be happy to get visuals and tour tickets, my vinyl and box set I paid for got delivered August 3rd. I got what I need! she delivered what she promised.

 

once again, is Beyoncé alienating fans a bit? yeah, but when hasn't she? did anyone expect after turning 40 she would suddenly want to be active on TikTok and start going on late night shows? what are we expecting here? visuals are confirmed to be on the way, tour is speculated to be announced soon, and we have an incredible album to listen to while we wait.

She is not creating buzz the right way. She's doing the bare minimum and appears to want to promote her album amongst the music industry as if they're buying the albums and tour tickets. A popular urban blog posted her outfit twice and the engagement was weak. Meanwhile they posted a certain somoene making a quote on their upcoming Superbowl performance and that post got more likes and engaement.

 

Yall better wake up. It is not 2013 anymore. Parkwood is incompentent and delusional about Beyonce's foothold in pop culture currently. She'll never be replaced. But the industry and GP isn't going out of their way to look for her. Cause she keeps intentionally hiding and disengaging. 

Y’all literally said the same doom and gloom bs about her not appealing to “Gen-Z” and “TikTok” and now she has a smash-in-waiting almost solely because of Tiktok. It’s just a lot of talking out of your ass at this point. You guys aren’t data analysts, number crunchers, or even particularly decent, consistent opinion-givers. Just stop lol. 

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