I will say that of the tour doesn’t sell well (I feel like it isn’t) I’m gonna enjoy the draggings from the other bases.

1 minute ago, Devin said:

I’m really interested to see what act ii vibe is.

An album full of Church Girl’s.

1 minute ago, Keith said:

An album full of Church Girl’s.

The meltdowns this base will have. 

I think the tour will do well tho. Most performers have natural demand. She could enhance her stats if she did a bit of promo. 

4 minutes ago, Devin said:

I think the tour will do well tho. Most performers have natural demand. She could enhance her stats if she did a bit of promo. 

If she was white and/or catering to whites I wouldn’t have no doubt about the demand for her but she isn’t. IASF is old af now and I don’t see black people spending $200+ for nosebleed seats in a stadium.

8 minutes ago, Keith said:

I will say that of the tour doesn’t sell well (I feel like it isn’t) I’m gonna enjoy the draggings from the other bases.

If OTR ii sold then this tour definitely will. I feel like this era is more anticipated. The girls were locked in due to covid. Beyoncé has been locked in for years and more reclusive than she has ever been. The girls want to see her. 

1 minute ago, Keith said:

If she was white and/or catering to whites I wouldn’t have no doubt about demand for her but she isn’t. IASF is old af now and I don’t see black people spending $200+ for nosebleed seats in a stadium.

her nosebleeds aren't $200 unless they're resale tickets (so... already sold). I think for OTR II $200 got you a seat on the field, though towards the back. nosebleeds started from $39 or something like that.

 

the real money maker for Beyoncé is the pit + VIP packages. those go for anywhere from $800 to like $2,000 

15 minutes ago, Keith said:

If she was white and/or catering to whites I wouldn’t have no doubt about the demand for her but she isn’t. IASF is old af now and I don’t see black people spending $200+ for nosebleed seats in a stadium.

Tbf her nosebleeds aren’t that high. 
 

I do agree if she was white and/or heavily pandering she would make extreme numbers. Renaissance kinda gained back those pop stans.

11 minutes ago, Keith said:

If she was white and/or catering to whites I wouldn’t have no doubt about the demand for her but she isn’t. IASF is old af now and I don’t see black people spending $200+ for nosebleed seats in a stadium.

This. Like I said, she's been coasting off her pop hits for almost 15 years now. How many times will those white dollars pay to see CIL and Halo? Especially after Formation? 

 

This album is perfect for all demographics but if nothing is being done legimately pull people in, then what? Simply uploading it up to streaming only helps the fans. Luckily the Cuff It challenge is catching on with Gen Z but she's making it harder. If I wanna perform to sold out record breaking stadiums, you gone know my latest hits. And pulling your song off radio isn't helping the GP remember you have an album and possible tour coming.

I'm sure we can be honest about Beyoncé while still being appreciative.

 

Beyoncé is a legend, she doesn't have anything to prove anymore and I'm pretty sure she'll slay touring next year.

 

I think some people just wish she'd put more effort into her career.

 

Realistically, she's not as well rounded as Taylor Swift, and her catalogue isn't streaming like Taylor's or even Rihanna's. She lacks recent hits and accessibility.

 

Regardless, she's clearly in her own league and the fact she just scored a #1 single, the third highest first week sales for a female album in the 2020's and an album that has been Top 10 for 8 weeks (longer than other girls albums), says alot about her power.

Those tickets are gonna sell. Y’all are being weird. 
 

She literally laughed at white peoples faces at the Super Bowl in 2016 and they were MAD. She still went on to gross $250 million for FWT. So y’all are reaching with these takes..

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1 hour ago, Lose My Breath said:

I’m actually satisfied right now, cuff it is smashing and promoting the album, and we got a tour coming. 
 

my biggest complaint was her best album not reaching people, and I feel like it definitely is now. I can bop in peace. 

As always, spill and hit the nail on the head. 
 

Honestly the bar is low but this being easily accessible to people has been the most important part of the era. People know the songs, they hear them on tiktok and the radio and they can stream them. She’s not strong on Spotify due to her own behaviour and a lot of younger people don’t use her. That’s fine. ATRL will pretend it means she has no legacy but that’s just how it goes. She’s still doing much better than 99% of female artists do at this stage in their career so as long as the music stays this good and people are responding to it, anything else is just a bonus to me. 

18 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said:

Those tickets are gonna sell. Y’all are being weird. 
 

She literally laughed at white peoples faces at the Super Bowl in 2016 and they were MAD. She still went on to gross $250 million for FWT. So y’all are reaching with these takes..

We gonna hit the reset button and act like these past couple days never happened.

 

17 minutes ago, Devin said:

We gonna hit the reset button and act like these past couple days never happened.

 

Something definitely needs to be hit cuz the mutuals are acting mad deprived. 
 

3 hours ago, BrooklynBoy said:

 

How do you put effort into a visual album, but not put effort into sending the singles to radio? Make it make sense.

None of them have been able to answer this. 

1 hour ago, sillycilla said:

None of them have been able to answer this. 

she's putting out exquisite, well thought out, future classic bodies of work. she's not chasing one-off radio singles.

 

BREAK MY SOUL was the exception, not the norm.

The way @Dreajaeand @sillycillawere spilling nothing but facts.

However, much like @Keithsaid, u honestly do better when u accept the fact that Bey is not stanworthy. Be a fan of her music and call it a day. That way, one is not frustrated when it comes to how she handles and has been handling her career. 

We are fans of a wonderful musician, great performer and stuck-up diva who is not humble and who doesnt care about her fans or peasants.

3 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

The way @Dreajaeand @sillycillawere spilling nothing but facts.

However, much like @Keithsaid, u honestly do better when u accept the fact that Bey is not stanworthy. Be a fan of her music and call it a day. That way, one is not frustrated when it comes to how she handles and has been handling her career. 

We are fans of a wonderful musician, great performer and stuck-up diva who is not humble and who doesnt care about her fans or peasants.

I don't think it's THAT deep.

 

And once again, we STILL don't know what they're planning for this era. We got a teaser so we know videos are coming.

 

Yes it's frustrating but we need to stop acting like she's left the era in the dust.

 

Maybe the Hive are the only ones who care at this point and the videos wouldn't do much for the longevity of the album, but they are still coming.

11 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

The way @Dreajaeand @sillycillawere spilling nothing but facts.

However, much like @Keithsaid, u honestly do better when u accept the fact that Bey is not stanworthy. Be a fan of her music and call it a day. That way, one is not frustrated when it comes to how she handles and has been handling her career. 

We are fans of a wonderful musician, great performer and stuck-up diva who is not humble and who doesnt care about her fans or peasants.

I screamed

 

(it’s true though ngl ) 

7 minutes ago, Planet Mars said:

I don't think it's THAT deep.

 

And once again, we STILL don't know what they're planning for this era. We got a teaser so we know videos are coming.

 

Yes it's frustrating but we need to stop acting like she's left the era in the dust.

 

Maybe the Hive are the only ones who care at this point and the videos wouldn't do much for the longevity of the album, but they are still coming.

Do you see how these statements might be viewed as being at least mildly dichotomous? 

5 hours ago, Dreajae said:

This is what I'm saying. They make it seem like Bey is some artist selling mixtapes out of her trunk for the love of it. No. Bey pops out and wants to push multi million dollar campaigns and release albums about knocking Basquiats off the wall. She gloats about cultural currency and being an icon. 

 

But wait. Bey just wants to be a wife and mother. None of the facets of stardom matter. Let her rest and have her privacy after a 6 year studio album break and 2 side projects no one really asked for and she didn't even promote. So what's exhausting her or stopping her from her "joy"?

 

No ones asking Bey to bend over backwards. Imagine saying people need to get some air cause they're wondering why Beyonce hasn't been seen since her album dropped 2 months ago. "Oh she's done enough". Yeah, withholding her music from streaming for years and yachting. 

I’m sorry but no one drags Beyoncé like her own stans  

Renaissance has made me appreciate B’day so much better; it’s coming for Miss Fourr as my third fave album from her 

 

It’s such a timeless album and may age the best out of all her albums for the next several decades ; I even love Ring The Alarm now, which I hated for over a decade . My fave Beyoncé is when she just feels herself, have fun. B’day >>>>>>>>>>

 

Deja Vu is top 5 in her discography and ***** needs to bring it back on TOUR - sonically, one of the unique song ever

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No wonder she doesn't engage with her fans, when she has fans like this.

Wkijejs what’s happening in here though? Why do people still act surprised and mad over her self sabotage? 
Yall been stanning her too long for this 

 

I stan this b!tch for what she is. Season changes, I’ll change, but one thing I know for sure is that I’ll always be a stan ( However you want to define this term). Try to imagine you’re not on ATRL, and these whole charts thing  won’t impact how you feel about her that much. Her visual album will slay and ***** can have as much time as she wants. 
 

 

Ask yourself the question, do you want her to be more successful on the charts for her sake or for yours? 
 

Also, for her chart success stans, take a look at Lana del Rey’s streaming stats for calming effect and assurance! 
 

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