3 minutes ago, conatus said:

"Animal (Billboard Remix)" lasting longer than over HALF of the other songs 

DESERVED

 

Whew, it’s so good!

29 minutes ago, supaspaz said:

Time for the Swifties to launch a virtual street team and reach out to the unconverted masses to spread the gospel again

fr tho, i knew ATRL had gone deaf when they started hyping up olivia and tate 

The girls coming for Meghan when everything up there, other than Carly, is either trash or fash-adjacent. Pass on 2015 for me!

And 2005... what kinda Mad Libs line up? Madonna & Mariah, MIA & Fiona Apple, Keyshia Cole?? I know you're just drawing names out of a hat for this.

Has anyone even thought about that Courtney album at all since 2015? 

2 hours ago, Ace Reject said:

We COULD do TWO 2010 MAKES THE WOMAN rates:

 

Animal v. Teenage Dream v. Loud v. Pink Friday v. Cannibal

 

The ArchAndroid v. Bionic v. Aphrodite v. Speak Now v. Body Talk (I'd actually vote in this one!)

The split makes sense - but nix Aphrodite (these are all women a generation after her) and add the aforementioned Flesh Tone instead.

 

Bionic... I mean, I don't know if it really belongs but I don't know where else you'd put ha.  Maybe we need to do a lovable, classic flopstars rate with her and some other iconic flop albums. GOOD flop albums. Not like... Britney Jean or 143.

4 minutes ago, conatus said:

Has anyone even thought about that Courtney album at all since 2015? 

I've been doing my best to try and forget it, actually!

The Courtney album is a forgotten tune-yards situation but Pedestrian at Best is an 11

 

 

(And so is Kill v Maim)

Maybe Vulnicura would work instead of Courtney? even Wolf Alice or CHVRCHES would be better for something indie 

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The less said about Grimes Against Humanity, the better

Grateful to have been an Art Angels hater since day 1

 

10 minutes ago, conatus said:

Has anyone even thought about that Courtney album at all since 2015? 

Technically yes, since This Was 2015 happened in 2016

 

https://classic.atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=951097

Just now, supaspaz said:

Technically yes, since This Was 2015 happened in 2016

 

https://classic.atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=951097

15 minutes ago, greento said:

fr tho, i knew ATRL had gone deaf when they started hyping up olivia and tate 

See, this is why the Swifties are losing ATRL. The attitude of superiority and unwillingness to engage with any music that's not Taylor.

 

Olivia is great, by the way. "Bad Idea Right?" washes anything on The Tortured Poets Department or Midnights.

If I can make a totally non-critical observation! I think Miss Acey likes to pair things up for variety's sake, older artists with young ones, debut albums up against comeback records, genres being crossed etc... And I don't think that's a bad thing per se! I just think that sort of thing works better for UOG rates where the variety is huge and we only have a three or four songs from each lady to go through.

 

I think that... when rating full albums together, there might need to be a little more 'focus' on a specific sort of aim or audience. That's all I'm saying! 

2 minutes ago, supaspaz said:

Technically yes, since This Was 2015 happened in 2016

 

https://classic.atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=951097

The Sleater-Kinney album being the TTPD of the rate 

Just now, supaspaz said:

See, this is why the Swifties are losing ATRL. The attitude of superiority and unwillingness to engage with any music that's not Taylor.

 

Olivia is great, by the way. "Bad Idea Right?" washes anything on The Tortured Poets Department or Midnights.

i listen to much more than just taylor dw

 

bad idea right is okay but not one of her best

2 minutes ago, Eeveelution said:

The Sleater-Kinney album being the TTPD of the rate 

Except in SK's case it was undeserved

36 minutes ago, Graves said:

The split makes sense - but nix Aphrodite (these are all women a generation after her) and add the aforementioned Flesh Tone instead.

 

Bionic... I mean, I don't know if it really belongs but I don't know where else you'd put ha.  Maybe we need to do a lovable, classic flopstars rate with her and some other iconic flop albums. GOOD flop albums. Not like... Britney Jean or 143.

Keep Aphrodite, and let Taylor out (she's the young one on this all-star team) out; Kelis in. Robyn/Kylie/Legend X/Kelis/Janelle FEELS more appropriate, doesn't it?

37 minutes ago, greento said:

i listen to much more than just taylor dw

Yes, I appreciate seeing you in rates. But you are unfortunately not the norm.

1 hour ago, greento said:

back when taylor wasn't overhated by flops on ATRL  (but how did Mean of all songs make the top 10??)

I was going to say that it was proof ATRL has always been weirdly biased against her because what do you mean Last Kiss and Dear John weren't even in the top 25?

 

I saw a post from myself on page 2 or 3 saying I might participate but I don't think I did in the end.

1 hour ago, Ace Reject said:

Keep Aphrodite, and let Taylor out (she's the young one on this all-star team) out; Kelis in. Robyn/Kylie/Legend X/Kelis/Janelle FEELS more appropriate, doesn't it?

actually v funny to me (tho i entirely understand it from an american perspective) to see kylie in there, in the uk she's the most classically mainstream of mainstream legacy pop artists, only robbie shades her out maybe

 

1 hour ago, supaspaz said:

See, this is why the Swifties are losing ATRL. The attitude of superiority and unwillingness to engage with any music that's not Taylor.

i have shown my loyalty to taylor in the current rate, above and beyond etc etc, but i think their elevation of the folkmore era as the pinnacle of music to the detriment even of half her own catalogue is something that drives me up the wall (tho whether this is worse than the girls out on wider social media proclaiming TTPD her best yet apart from all the others i am not clear on)

 

otoh i don't feel like posting 'is taylor flopping' threads every three days is a point to rally around for anyone sane lol

2 hours ago, Graves said:

If I can make a totally non-critical observation! I think Miss Acey likes to pair things up for variety's sake, older artists with young ones, debut albums up against comeback records, genres being crossed etc... And I don't think that's a bad thing per se! I just think that sort of thing works better for UOG rates where the variety is huge and we only have a three or four songs from each lady to go through.

 

I think that... when rating full albums together, there might need to be a little more 'focus' on a specific sort of aim or audience. That's all I'm saying! 

Points heard! I do like to give a comprehensive view - things don't exist in a vacuum! Also, sometimes, there are albums I just don't want to listen to lol.

 

2015 DOES present a problem; that's why Supa combined Emotion: Side B and 25 into a 2016 rate, because there were so few options! 

 

Does this work? 

 

Grimes v. Carly Rae v. Adele v. 

 

We're struggling here. if you object to Meghan, you'd more than likely reject Fifth Harmony or Little Mix as well! It was a dry town that year. Maybe Jazmine? Cut it down to four albums without going 'too indie?' 

20 minutes ago, Ace Reject said:

if you object to Meghan, you'd more than likely reject Fifth Harmony or Little Mix as well!

a solution does suggest itself here (finding another trashy pop album to go along with title, get weird and reflection)

 

22 minutes ago, Ace Reject said:

Grimes v. Carly Rae v. Adele v.

given that adele doesn't necessarily fit with the other two, maybe the thing to do is to make it broader overall and go conspicuously indie with the fourth choice? say, bring back joanna newsom

4 hours ago, supaspaz said:

Technically yes, since This Was 2015 happened in 2016

 

https://classic.atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=951097

This is ******* me up  

 

 

4 hours ago, conatus said:

Has anyone even thought about that Courtney album at all since 2015? 

Yeah and it was specifically in the context of "albums that I can't believe I sat myself through but rates were still fun!"

i remember a 2015 songs rate i did back on twitter where courtney barnett had two songs make the quarter finals and i was fuming, ready to storm the barricades, i don't really dislike her so much but the gall of making out they were the best of the year tipped me over the edge

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