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The Latest Releases!!!! 💿

Beyoncé

This is part 2 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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The way the 1st 9 songs really eat in any order jonny3

But Welcome to Hollywood gutting half of her vocals <<<<< it could have been DOUBLE YEW DOUBLE YEW

azealia

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    My mom passed away last week. I know I mentioned her wanting to hear a Beyonce rock album as she has anticipated it for years, and I'm so sad she didn't get to hear it before she passed (if that's wha

  • Lose My Breath
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    I really hope we get it soon. My mom loves Beyonce, and her favorite genre is rock, she is SO excited. She just got diagnosed with terminal cancer, and I really hope she gets to hear the album while

  • @ScorpiosGroove @Fleahive @Teezy always ranting slams Bey a lil too hard french awful takes hates Bey lowkey forgot to take meds downvote central doesn't contribute to discussion could be yv

16 minutes ago, Space&Time said:

LMAO, is "Chopped and Screwed" the excuse?!

zendaya

It's not an excuse when darkchild is literally telling you its a chopped and screwed song. He said this in FEB/MARCH this year in a retrospective on billbaord.

Flaws and All sounds better than the original version, but I do wish that track had a more thorough reimagining to sound more like the version at RWT because it was truly extraordinary. chick3

Lost Yo Mind

Back Up

Creole

are all unlistenable in that lowered semitone.....

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Edited by Redporus

This release isn't as lazy or rushed as some of you thought now is it?

It's obvious that Beyoncé put a lot of time and effort in remastering the album, and it sounds so much better. We've gotten updated production, re-recorded vocals on some songs, physicals, surprise features and we're getting 4K upscales of the video anthology too. This is more effort than most artists put on a new project, let alone a 20 year-old album.

While this re-release is a triumph and a great way to celebrate this masterpiece, I do have some thoughts/questions

  • Why does the press release openly state that Morning Dew and My First Time are from different eras, but doesn't justify why they're included in this release? They transition well with each other but some context would've been great.

  • I love Morning Dew, but I'm not sure how I feel about My First Time and Can I Watch on first listen. My First Time feels a bit immature thematically for the album, and Can I Watch has too much Pharrell on it for me and sounds very new production-wise. Maybe they'll grow on me.

  • Does anyone know why Check On It and Welcome To Hollywood were changed? Welcome To Hollywood was especially jarring, and I much prefer her original version.

  • Considering that the DSP release is longer than the physicals, I really wish she included If and World Wide Woman for completeness.

  • It's feels SO GOOD having Lost Yo Mind, Creole and Back Up on streaming, and it's obvious that they've been re-recorded. Lost Yo Mind sounds the best out of the three, while Creole and Back Up sound a bit more timid compared to their shoutier original versions.

  • Maluma and Selena were very surprising features and I like both remixes. I agree with others that it would've been nice to have Bad Bunny on a track as well though.

  • Cuerpo (Tumbao) is a massive bop and should've been pushed as the next single for playlist support over Can I Watch You, especially when it's the only song to get a lyric video. It's got the potential to be massive.

Edited by Waterbender

The OG songs sound so crisp. Everything else is a cherry on top. I'm gagged.

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3 minutes ago, Waterbender said:

This release isn't as lazy or rushed as some of you thought now is it?

While this re-release is a triumph and a great way to celebrate this masterpiece, I do have some thoughts/questions

  • Does anyone know why Check On It and Welcome To Hollywood were changed? Welcome To Hollywood was especially jarring, and I much prefer her original version.

Well, in the case of this, Welcome to Hollywood was originally a Jay-Z song featured on his album he released a month or so after B'Day, and it featured Bey. She then adopted it for the deluxe and flipped it to where he was the featured artist by adding more of her vocals. So the version they just released is like more of a balanced mix between the two versions. As for Check on It, Slim Thug was always the only featured artist for the single release and the version on the DC Greatest Hits. Bun B was added only for the MV. At some point, though, they gave that version a release to streaming and I'm not sure why.

1 minute ago, Rhythm said:

Well, in the case of this, Welcome to Hollywood was originally a Jay-Z song featured on his album he released a month or so after B'Day, and it featured Bey. She then adopted it for the deluxe and flipped it to where he was the featured artist by adding more of her vocals. So the version they just released is like more of a balanced mix between the two versions. As for Check on It, Slim Thug was always the only featured artist for the single release and the version on the DC Greatest Hits. Bun B was added only for the MV. At some point, though, they gave that version a release to streaming and I'm not sure why.

I'm aware of the original Jay version, but I still don't understand why she felt the need to create a combined version. Her version was far superior, even Jay would agree haha.

Fair enough on Check On It, I had no idea!

I did the spectrum test on it and she artificially upscaled the tracks and probably layered new vocals on top of the upscale to make it sound remastered (not being shady, she may not have the original files anymore so there's not much she can do besides re-record it and that would be unrealistic)

10 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I remember you saying something like that before COWBOY CARTER

sheep

I did and CC had a huge opening, bigger than everyone outside of TS at the time, and her streaming numbers went from 9-10 million daily to 11-12. She's had major increases

5 minutes ago, QueenB said:

I did the spectrum test on it and she artificially upscaled the tracks and probably layered new vocals on top of the upscale to make it sound remastered (not being shady, she may not have the original files anymore so there's not much she can do besides re-record it and that would be unrealistic)

She has to have the stems for some of them because irreplaceable has an ad lib cut at the end "you can pack all your bags we finished" is now missing "you can" and the quiet "n*gga" during "and if I bought it (n*gga) please don't touch" is deleted now too.

If she owns the masters she has the files. It's just a matter of did she take the time to actually have it remastered or is it a quick re-mixing.

The three bonus tracks all have new vocals on them for sure. I can hear the difference between her real voice and the pitched down vocal. It's very noticeable in BACK UP. the first verse is re recorded, the second one is not. And the first verse of creole is new too.

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52 minutes ago, Waterbender said:

I'm aware of the original Jay version, but I still don't understand why she felt the need to create a combined version. Her version was far superior, even Jay would agree haha.

Fair enough on Check On It, I had no idea!

I know, I miss those background vocals. Feels so unfinished.

Her love letter to the Latin community is really heartwarming. Selena being her Donna Summer & Dolly Parton.

She possibly also re-recorded the songs because maybe she didn't have the final stems.

14 minutes ago, yonsé said:

She has to have the stems for some of them because irreplaceable has an ad lib cut at the end "you can pack all your bags we finished" is now missing "you can" and the quiet "n*gga" during "and if I bought it (n*gga) please don't touch" is deleted now too.

If she owns the masters she has the files. It's just a matter of did she take the time to actually have it remastered or is it a quick re-mixing.

The three bonus tracks all have new vocals on them for sure. I can hear the difference between her real voice and the pitched down vocal. It's very noticeable in BACK UP. the first verse is re recorded, the second one is not. And the first verse of creole is new too.

Owning the master rights =/= Owning the master tapes. But I checked Irreplaceable and it is an authentic remaster, so I checked every track... it seems only the tracks I checked were upscaled. So creole, back up, and lost yo mind... but also check on it

Did she burn the master tapes of check on it

azealia

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