26 minutes ago, Darkling said:

People labelling Blue and Crush as their worst titles when Feel the Piss is just there

 

we love Feel the bop

 

Stray Global never leaving the chart since 2022 

 

Just now, Pluto6 said:

 

FRAUDTEEZ - 1

 

 

1 hour ago, Witnessed ET said:

Casually selling out stadiums in the US despite being a traditional kpop group without ever strictly pandering to the west with their music and none of the members being fluent in English nor any of them having any footing in Hollywood/American influencer culture. I mean they are absolute LEGENDS but who even doubted them tbh 

The majority of the singles they have put out this decade have been straight pandering to the West and theyre under the label that got the first GG breakout in the west in the 2000s with WGs. Y'all will constantly make **** up to gloat about Twice and try and get one over BP is comical 

1 minute ago, Cheers said:

FRAUDTEEZ - 1

 

 

Why do you dislike ADTEEZ though?  I have noticed that you have been shading them lately 

1 hour ago, Pluto6 said:

Aman boş ver artık, zaten müzik en önemlisi 

 

 

Spoiler

ben ondan da ümidimi kestim

 

 

 

oh CRACKSTINK you will never be over

 

10 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

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ben ondan da ümidimi kestim

 

Abartma kız, Be Alright was just released a month ago and it's SOTY contender 

Edited August 15, 20251 yr by Pluto6

 

That should be me duetting with Eunwoo. 

I think what @Witnessed ET was trying to say is that no one would've expected TWICE to become one of the biggest K-pop acts in the West when they first debuted with their cute concept. JYP's original vision for TWICE was to dominate the Asian market, which is why none of the members spoke English at the time and why they debuted with a large lineup of 9 members, a format that's uncommon in the West.  

ITZY, on the other hand, was created with a stronger focus on the Western market from the start, featuring an English-speaking member, having only 5 members and a more edgy concept.  

Nevertheless, TWICE went on to achieve global popularity and establish themselves with their signature K-pop sound and eventually shifted towards more English releases later.

 

Edited August 15, 20251 yr by Pluto6

 

months and months late but there's this song of the year...

 

 

33 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

I think what @Witnessed ET was trying to say is that no one would've expected TWICE to become one of the biggest K-pop acts in the West when they first debuted with their cute concept. JYP's original vision for TWICE was to dominate the Asian market, which is why none of the members spoke English at the time and why they debuted with a large lineup of 9 members, a format that's uncommon in the West.  

ITZY, on the other hand, was created with a stronger focus on the Western market from the start, featuring an English-speaking member, having only 5 members and a more edgy concept.  

Nevertheless, TWICE went on to achieve global popularity and establish themselves with their signature K-pop sound and eventually shifted towards more English releases later.

 

That still doesn't change the fact that they weren't able to sell out their US tour just « casually » ? Otherwise they wouldn't have signed with a big US label, wouldn't have released songs in English, wouldn't have promoted in the US, and wouldn't have done collabs with US artists ? 
 

And having an English speaking member doesn't necessarily means that they want to focus in the US. Since the 1st gen, a lot of idols speak English for the SEA market!

Edited August 15, 20251 yr by Adama

2 hours ago, Adama said:

Why do you keep pretending that it hasn't been years since Twice has been actively promoting in the US? How are they not pandering to the West with their multiple English songs and features ? Like why deny the efforts that JYP and themselves made for them to grow in this market? 

 

Very well said.

Twice is doing good and is always great to see a GG that has been around for more than 10 years still hold power but lies are being spread lately with the "reignited interest" and "not pandering to the west" comments. 

 

My faves 

 

7 minutes ago, Rhyme said:

My faves 

 

I didn't not expect twigs to like bp  

and im pretty sure rose got Taylor's tea and that's why we are getting the mini in November not October 

 

57 minutes ago, Adama said:

That still doesn't change the fact that they weren't able to sell out their US tour just « casually » ? Otherwise they wouldn't have signed with a big US label, wouldn't have released songs in English, wouldn't have promoted in the US, and wouldn't have done collabs with US artists ? 
 

And having an English speaking member doesn't necessarily means that they want to focus in the US. Since the 1st gen, a lot of idols speak English for the SEA market!

They were already one of the most popular K-pop acts in the West with their K-pop sound, long before all of this. It wasn't until later that they began releasing English tracks more frequently.  
That said, TWICE has definitely catered more to the Western market in recent years, since 2021, they've released as many English title tracks as Korean ones.

 

Edited August 15, 20251 yr by Pluto6

20 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

They were already one of the most popular K-pop acts in the West with their K-pop sound, long before all of this. It wasn't until later that they began releasing English tracks more frequently.  
That said, TWICE has definitely catered more to the Western market in recent years, since 2021, they've released as many English title tracks as Korean ones.

 

No one said that they weren't popular. Just like them, some of the 3rd gen acts  started showing signs of popularity in 2018 in the US. 

 

But I don't know why you guys are pretending that JYP and Twice did nothing to cater to this market when it's false. If it were the case then it would have been just like Red Velvet 

 

 

Props to JYP and Twice, their works paid off 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Pluto6 said:

I think what @Witnessed ET was trying to say is that no one would've expected TWICE to become one of the biggest K-pop acts in the West when they first debuted with their cute concept. JYP's original vision for TWICE was to dominate the Asian market, which is why none of the members spoke English at the time and why they debuted with a large lineup of 9 members, a format that's uncommon in the West.  

ITZY, on the other hand, was created with a stronger focus on the Western market from the start, featuring an English-speaking member, having only 5 members and a more edgy concept.  

Nevertheless, TWICE went on to achieve global popularity and establish themselves with their signature K-pop sound and eventually shifted towards more English releases later.

 

Exactly and when you look at ITZY formation. The pre-debut line up was Yeji, Lia (English Speaker), Ryujin, Chaeryeong & Somi (English Speaker). Lily (who is also another English Speaker) at one point was also considered to be part of ITZY and Yuna was part of NMIXX.

And When you go back to their debut year, there was a video where you could hear Dalla Dalla (English Version), which was released 3 years later.

 

BTOB Seo Eunkwang covered GOLDEN, he sang it in the original key.

You don't want to read what he said, He said it was harder to learn the lyrics than sing them.

jyp company stans are so funny because y'all are the same people who used to proudly post takes in previous gens about how you prefer tonedeaf idols who cannot support or project their voices without shouting over the "screaming" from idols like Luna that was actually just proper belting. Famed zionist/diddler JYP built a career off of monetizing boring people's natural attraction to mediocrity and safeness. They think there's nobility in choosing the lesser option but are the first to accuse others of having superiority complexes. It actually reminds me of the mindset of a certain political movement that's taken over my country. 

Edited August 16, 20251 yr by Sheep

1 minute ago, Sheep said:

jyp company stans are so funny because y'all are the same people who used to proudly post takes about how you prefer tonedeaf idols who cannot support or project their voices without shouting over "screaming" that was actually just proper belting. Famed zionist/diddler JYP built a career off of monetizing boring people's natural attraction to mediocrity and safeness. They think there's nobility in choosing the lesser option but are the first to accuse others of having superiority complexes. It actually reminds me of the mindset of a certain political movement that's taken over my country. 

the accuracy here is scary 

Touting Data numbers are out for the Asian and LATAM shows

DOMINATE, @Stray_Kids
Shizuoka Stadium, Shizuoka: 207,917 (100%) - $20,074,993 (4 shows)
Estadio GNP Seguros, Mexico City: 109,963 (100%) - $14,363,002 (2 shows)
Tokyo Dome, Tokyo: 143,575 (100%) - $13,004,095 (3 shows)
Kyocera Dome, Osaka: 114,703 (100%) - $10,712,933 (3 shows)
Estádio do Morumbi, São Paulo: 110,479 (100%) - $10,466,995 (2 shows)
Estadio Bicentenario La Florida, Santiago: 48,229 (100%) - $6,104,563 (2 shows)
Estadio San Marcos, Lima: 43,806 (100%) - $5,424,175
National Stadium, Singapore: 31,462 (85.11%) - $5,397,239
National Stadium, Kaohsiung: 41,273 (100%) - $5,165,580
Estádio Olímpico, Rio de Janeiro: 49,063 (100%) - $4,759,166
Allianz Stadium, Sydney: 36,589 (96.99%) - $4,350,528
KSPO Dome, Seoul: 40,907 (100%) - $4,078,504 (4 shows)
Galaxy Arena, Macau: 21,277 (100%) - $3,978,613 (2 shows)
Philippine Arena, Bulacan: 23,047 (77.66%) - $3,517,604
AsiaWorld–Expo, Hong Kong: 20,922 (100%) - $3,490,375 (2 shows)
Marvel Stadium, Melbourne: 27,336 (89.33%) - $3,037,891
Suphachalasai Stadium, Bangkok: 20,600 (100%) - $3,019,991
Indonesia Arena, Jakarta: 9,726 (100%) - $1,794,926

 

Edited August 16, 20251 yr by Pluto6

Why no JYP stans comes for the Interpol wanted defender.