Alexz Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 She sounds the same as always to me, she never had any creativity or magic to begin with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquiddiamonds Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) She's in this phase in which words take center stage and then she needs the production to have space for it to come through and possibly hook listeners (which it did last time around with massive numbers). People that grew up on Taylor-the-big-hook-machine with loads of clever catchy melodies, busy pop instruments, upbeat percussion, or the opposite finger pickling guitar ballads, are clearly not as invested, minus some songs here and there. There's little one can do with vocal melodies with her singing range, so the talk-singing approach gets repetitive across albums imo. I still think she's just exploring an aspect of her craft and then will turn around and do something else few years down the line. She's in her i'm a pop wordsmith bag for now. I'm checking because there's always good songs to save from these last two projects, but knowing Taylor she will surprise us sonically at some point again Edited April 18 by liquiddiamonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFireLexus Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, Virgos Groove said: I think a break with Jack has been overdue for a while now. 18 minutes ago, Gladiator said: I do think it will serve her best to stop having Jack 2 hours ago, Strawberry Bubble said: jack antonoff lost it, and she doesn't know how to let him go (she actually does: old habits die screamingggggg). Taylor Swift is neither deaf nor mute. She has working ears to listen to Jack's productions before they make it onto her albums, and she has a functioning mouth to speak up if she doesn't like anything. Jack isn't doing anything she doesn't want. It's not that she's getting that kind of production because she's sticking with him. She's sticking with him *because* she wants that kind of production. She knows where to go if she wants something else (see her work with Aaron Dessner). If she wanted different, she would get different. Or she'd get Jack to do something different for her 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 5 minutes ago, TheFireLexus said: Taylor Swift is neither deaf nor mute. She has working ears to listen to Jack's productions before they make it onto her albums, and she has a functioning mouth to speak up if she doesn't like anything. Jack isn't doing anything she doesn't want. I don't think any of us suggested otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Bubble Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, TheFireLexus said: Taylor Swift is neither deaf nor mute. She has working ears to listen to Jack's productions before they make it onto her albums, and she has a functioning mouth to speak up if she doesn't like anything. Jack isn't doing anything she doesn't want. It's not that she's getting that kind of production because she's sticking with him. She's sticking with him *because* she wants that kind of production. She knows where to go if she wants something else (see her work with Aaron Dessner). If she wanted different, she would get different. Or she'd get Jack to do something different for her Wow, I never considered that Taylor wasn't deaf nor mute. Yes, a significant part of the fandom shares that view. Just because Taylor prefers that production style doesn't mean we should blindly support everything she does. If she wants to continue working with him on something 'different,' she can, but many fans believe she should explore collaborations with other people. After all, her fans are also not deaf or mute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorhees Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 It's sad, because I used to be such a big Swiftie, but I would have to say yes - or at least she's gotten stale. I feel like she needs a complete rehaul of her team/branding, everything has felt like such a retread on the past two albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethereal Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 No, she's still very creative. Each new release showcases a body of work distinct from her previous efforts, with great lyrics and infectious hooks. Her ability to consistently innovate shows that she is indeed a great artist. I know for a fact that many of her peers aspire to reach her level of creativity and mastery of the craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetrachord Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 its pretty clear that Joe deserves his grammys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Taylor Swift being "creative" is a narrative that has been heavily pushed by white media, the same ones that push the whole Lana being this "genius" once-in-a-lifetime talent when neither of these women are that creative or talented. But anyway, as far as Taylor is concerned, she's way too comfortable with mediocre output bcoz she knows millions will buy her records. When Lover received poor reception, it lit a fire under her ass and she came back with Folklore. Now, she just wants to quickly sell millions of albums and make money, which is why she keeps releasing the same album. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttsmu Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Finally people is opening their eyes when it comes to Taylor's music and "creativity". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout2006 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 am I missing something? is the album out already in some places or has it leaked?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericcartman Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 I thought the same for Midnights yet she reached even new heights and was still critically acclaimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelter Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 It's kinda the fans fault, everyone is kissing her ass. Why would she get new writers/producers when her fans say it's the best thing ever. There is nothing memorable on that album. She is probably already working on another album. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookmark99 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 At this point, I think she just makes music to squeeze out as much money from her fans as possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 She never had it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonginBey Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Given the amount of albums she's released since 2019, it was bound to get bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbiegrande Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Yeah. Granny needs to hang it up, flatscreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbannature Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 8 hours ago, Ethereal said: No, she's still very creative. Each new release showcases a body of work distinct from her previous efforts, with great lyrics and infectious hooks. Her ability to consistently innovate shows that she is indeed a great artist. I know for a fact that many of her peers aspire to reach her level of creativity and mastery of the craft. Bringing up Beyonce in the most delusional manner as if her body of work isn't on a completely different level 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbannature Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 7 hours ago, Thor said: Taylor Swift being "creative" is a narrative that has been heavily pushed by white media, the same ones that push the whole Lana being this "genius" once-in-a-lifetime talent when neither of these women are that creative or talented. But anyway, as far as Taylor is concerned, she's way too comfortable with mediocre output bcoz she knows millions will buy her records. When Lover received poor reception, it lit a fire under her ass and she came back with Folklore. Now, she just wants to quickly sell millions of albums and make money, which is why she keeps releasing the same album. The Lana sneak when she's actually an incredible and highly-influential writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naval23 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) This is her "The Best Damn Thing", "The Truth About Love", "E=MC2" era Edited April 19 by naval23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes, AND Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 9 hours ago, TheFireLexus said: Taylor Swift is neither deaf nor mute. She has working ears to listen to Jack's productions before they make it onto her albums, and she has a functioning mouth to speak up if she doesn't like anything. Jack isn't doing anything she doesn't want. It's not that she's getting that kind of production because she's sticking with him. She's sticking with him *because* she wants that kind of production. She knows where to go if she wants something else (see her work with Aaron Dessner). If she wanted different, she would get different. Or she'd get Jack to do something different for her I mean Taylor is also credited as co producer on all of Midnights. I am sure it will be the same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Music Industry Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 11 hours ago, ttsmu said: Yes. The whole album is like she is just reading the lyrics. The only good moment in the album is when Florence Welch started to sing. Other than that is just a boring, bland and uninspired album. You literally hate Taylor yet you sprinted to listen to her album before it's even officially out. Make it make sense Edited April 19 by The Music Industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFireLexus Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 11 hours ago, Strawberry Bubble said: Wow, I never considered that Taylor wasn't deaf nor mute. Yes, a significant part of the fandom shares that view. Just because Taylor prefers that production style doesn't mean we should blindly support everything she does. If she wants to continue working with him on something 'different,' she can, but many fans believe she should explore collaborations with other people. After all, her fans are also not deaf or mute. Well you may not be deaf or mute but there's a slight chance you might be visually impaired if you read my words as suggesting you should "support" anything. "I with she would work with someone else" is very different from "the person she works with is to blame for how her music sounds". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjorn Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 Sentiment remains I fear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 None of her music is overly creative lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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