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K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

This is part 1 of the K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive discussion.

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Looks like sm and MHJ will always be an item huh, i just hope shell never touch next smngg you already have newjenniess.. 

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3 minutes ago, JoanneActII said:

 

random but slay 

I like it! happy birthday queen! :heart2:

1 minute ago, Pinter said:

Looks like sm and MHJ will always be an item huh, i just hope shell never touch next smngg you already have newjenniess.. 

no worries, she has her own label now and the most promising 4th gen group at that!

On 2/8/2023 at 9:39 PM, Flomik said:

by the way:

XG Shooting Star in Japanese charts WEEK 2:

Billboard Japan Hot 100: #26 (+1) (2 weeks charting)

Oricon: #38 (=) (2 weeks charting)

UPDATE:

XG are actualy #27(+11) at Oricon with 14 700 points! @Supervillain @Dialamba

SMASH

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37 minutes ago, Magdalene said:

ariana and red velvet hybemates we’re getting the yeriana unit :WAP:

nnnnnnnnnnnnnn didn't think about that :ahh: 

How could Eunchae mess up a PSY song:rip: the biggest vocal hole of 4gen comfirmed!

38 minutes ago, JoanneActII said:

 

random but slay 

She serves ARTS :jonny: 

What a mess :deadbanana4: SM is now owned by Hybe so I guess we are back to Big3 again :deadbanana2: and the fact that both JYP and YG have connection with Hybe (YG with the business partnership and JYP being Bang PD's best buddie) I won't be surprise if they gonna fall under hybe too lol I don't like how kpop is becoming. BTS really is he worst thing happened in kpop but props for bang pd for being such a smart and competent business man :clap3: feel bad for EXO tho

4 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

I’m starting to get annoyed with how they treat Lee Know and his screen time.. I have noticed in their Japanese comebacks that he barely gets the bare minimum and is barely shown in their MV’s… “Scars” was just a straight disaster and the MV director should’ve been fired cause what was the person thinking? :redface: I honestly think that there’s something in their staff team that has a grudge against Lee Know and trying to minimize his presence and sabotage him. If this unfair treatment keeps up especially the next comeback then I might say bye and unstan sadly… My whole excitement for this comeback is just gone now I fear :chick3:

Not you gonna turning to Lee Know akgae :redface:

 

1 hour ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

I didn't know Stray Kids were that far ahead of TXT 

 

for some reason I thought they were on more equal footing

 

 

 

 

That's why Stays keep chanting SKZ 4th Gen leaders and OSKZH have to accept the fact :giraffe:

 

I was lowkey surprised Enhypen ranked higher than TXT because I thought TXT are bigger than Enhypen.

 

Those coming for Treasure are flops have to eat their word because while they're flop in Korea digital (as for most 4th gen bgs even for SKZ) but they're big internationally especially in SEA.

 

So tldr 4th gen bg popularity according from the survey:

 

Stray Kids >>>>>> Enhypen > TXT >>> Treasure 

Also this is not a good new for MBC, since they are still beefing with Hybe :rip:. 

since some people here are confused - hybe doesn't own sm now. they own the most shares in sm but not the company itself. it's a public company and therefore can't be owned by one person or one corporation. 

56 minutes ago, Pinter said:

Looks like sm and MHJ will always be an item huh, i just hope shell never touch next smngg you already have newjenniess.. 

I didn't think of it :ahh:The more that now MHJ is a sunbae at Hybe to LSM. Grandpa has really pulled a k-drama with this move

15 hours ago, Cotton said:

You even mentioning Gfriend here makes no sense in 2023 like at all. Second of all, out of their peers they were behind only BP for overall sales in 2022 eclipsing Twice and 3rd out of all girl groups besting 4th gen groups. And besides that no one else has gotten global hits in that company besides RV. We all know NCT has a huge fandom that is profitable like every other boy group but their streaming numbers are so abysmal domestically and internationally. The discrepancy between their physical numbers and streaming is a joke.

 

RV could never be SM's downfall when they can actually serve results physically and digitally (both domestically and internationally with the right song) with their comebacks. Like they are 9 years old and the ball is still rolling.

 

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I'm not saying GFRIEND are bigger than Red Velvet, but at one point during their career they were. Gaia was making the point that NCT were failures because they weren't #1 in their generation, but neither was Red Velvet so his point is just another example of KTRL's weird delusion surrounding girl groups. Obviously as a whole, Red Velvet are much bigger. :rip:

 

I'm not even dragging Red Velvet because obviously both them and NCT are not the cause for SM's downfall. But the irony of a Red Velvet fan to call NCT the downfall of SM when both groups basically fall into the same career trajectory is funny. Neither group managed to be the #1 boy/girl group of their generation, neither of them are consistent with their success, neither of them managed to eclipse their predecessors etc. And all of that is okay because they're still extremely profitable for SM, but to put ALL the blame of a whole company onto one group is stupid and just a reflection of the delusions of this site and their hatred of boy groups.

 

SM's problems are way bigger than NCT or any singular group. They should still disband flop EXO though.

 

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1 minute ago, Spark said:

I'm not even dragging Red Velvet because obviously both them and NCT are not the cause for SM's downfall. But the irony of a Red Velvet fan to call NCT the downfall of SM when both groups basically fall into the same career trajectory is funny. Neither group managed to be the #1 boy/girl group of their generation, neither of them are consistent with their success, neither of them managed to eclipse their predecessors etc. And all of that is okay because they're still extremely profitable for SM, but to put ALL the blame of a whole company onto one group is stupid and just a reflection of the delusions of this site and their hatred of boy groups.

oh this tea :coffee2:

I didn't realise WayV's new mini album sold 130k less than their previous one. The 40% decline. 

 

SM is a stupid company cause literally nobody wants these regional NCT units, everyone just wants Dream, 127, and the occasional NCT U comeback. I just know NCT Tokyo will bomb as well. I hope after that they just STOP with the new units and start focusing on solos and sub units (of the sub units).

 

The fact SM promoted Sungchan in Korea hard for all of 2021 only to debut him in JAPAN.

 

Honestly, I don't see the new SM boy group or girl group doing well either, but maybe they have some hidden weapons. HYBE really saved the industry, huh?

 

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21 minutes ago, JoanneActII said:

since some people here are confused - hybe doesn't own sm now. they own the most shares in sm but not the company itself. it's a public company and therefore can't be owned by one person or one corporation. 

We got that. But by being the largest shareholder plus alliance with LSM they'll have major control over the company, so it's pretty much the same thing.

Wait I'm so confused. Is the sm owned by hybe thing real and confirmed because wtf???

SM's music now being made by the people who released Dynamite and Butter :redface:

Wait it's True wtf. This monopolization isn't good for the kpop industry imo 

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