29 minutes ago, Eternium said:

65% of Aespa’s digitals, physicals and streams come from 2022, sis. How could they be 2021 fads?  Their studio album is going to come out in March and they’ll end up at the very least outselling and outstreaming 2022. Y’all have this weird need for them to be flops when they just put out the most successful mini ever in the history of female K-pop  

Aespa had one comeback. IVE had two comebacks and a Japanese debut. IVE released three times as many physicals as Aespa.

GOT The Beat isn’t about getting a digital hit, girlies. It’s about raising SM’s artists’ profiles, especially with a focus on China.

 

Before GOT The Beat: 

Savage - 752,115

Queendom - 363,602

Monster - 267,743

What Do I Call You - 126,703

Better - 17,371

Hyoyeon’s career album sales - 0

 

After GOT The Beat:

Girls - 1,806,162

Birthday - 716,092

Feel My Rhythm - 693,367

INVU - 248,325

28 Reasons - 240,300

Forgive Me - 18,010

Deep - 13,064

 

Literally everyone involved got a massive jump and the group worked wonders for SM.

Naut BoA auntie still selling more than Hyo

13 minutes ago, sourprint said:

they underperformed

The digital performance of the title track was an underperformance (220M). The digital performance of Illusion was a smash and the second-biggest for a B-side ever (250M). Girls was the best-selling female album ever on Circle and has only been surpassed since by BlackPink’s studio album Born Pink.

 

In terms of units pushed (and excluding tacked on songs that were released earlier), the biggest eras of fourth gen females are currently:

1. Girls - 2M+

2. After Like - 1.9M+

3. Checkmate (ITZY) - 1.2M

4. New Jeans - 1.1M (will easily climb)

 

If Girls was an underperformance, then we haven’t seen a successful era in fourth Gen yet.

9 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

You think it’s because of GOT that RV and Aespa got a jump in sales. Let’s be honest for a minute. 
It only benefits for like HYO and Boa. 

 

true but they peaked years later + they cb once a year and their last TT wasn’t great it’s not a good example, Gfriend is a better choice. 

Payback they were so brave with Itzy two years ago 

We can see a correlation in the increase in sales, babe.

And just a reminder - I’m one of the few users in here who defends ITZY constantly. I also regularly remind everyone that they’ve moved the most units for fourth Gen and are still technically the fourth Gen leaders.

2 minutes ago, Babymomo said:

I don't have anything to say to ur entire comment but this part i personally have thoughts on, the girls in general are not giving me good performances. It just dawned on me that i haven't watched a full performance of theirs, the choreos outside of hype boy are so weird that i just can't get into it, they bounce way to much. Legit alot of their choreos seem copypasted and they have so many moments where its just empty space and they act out really out of nowhere joy, like idk what to do with that. The fake sadness of hurt performances made me cackle. And i agree the girl with the cat eyes especially looked like she'd be anywhere but there performing 

Pretty much how I felt until Ditto and OMG. Think the format change was a good idea because the standard kpop vid was NOT working for them (plus half of attentions choreo looks off)

2 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

STAYC’s album sales keep growing and they are doing well for a group who are outside of big 4. who cares if a bunch of gays in a random pop forum “dropped” them after stereotype (even though they got a bigger hit with run2u after that so i’m not sure how this logic works)

 

they released one of the best albums of last year and stomped on several big companies quality wise  

We love stayc girl

 

3 minutes ago, fauxtography said:

Right? Run2U was one of the best releases of the year. Pop perfection

 

Beautiful Monster kinda stopped the hype I had for them though.

Don’t worry BM was just a cash grab album they needed money to serve SOTY. they’re coming with another quality album I fear. 
 

i love how people don’t see the token stanning because they “support great music” yeah lol 

reminder that yesterday (1/1) also had a quality release 

4 minutes ago, fauxtography said:

Right? Run2U was one of the best releases of the year. Pop perfection

 

Beautiful Monster kinda stopped the hype I had for them though.

Young-luv.com was one of the best mini of last year imo . 
 

 

4 minutes ago, BowWow said:

I never token stanned weeekly. I knew they’d flop after after school 

Too bad After school happened during the covid lockdown. It would have smashed more in 2022 

2 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

they did, it’s their biggest hit for a reason 

for some reason people are trying to rewrite history and pretend they haven’t got a hit since asap

I also remember the day when Poppy was released, I remember people on this thread loving it. 

 

1 minute ago, Eternium said:

The digital performance of the title track was an underperformance (220M). The digital performance of Illusion was a smash and the second-biggest for a B-side ever (250M). Girls was the best-selling female album ever on Circle and has only been surpassed since by BlackPink’s studio album Born Pink.

 

In terms of units pushed (and excluding tacked on songs that were released earlier), the biggest eras of fourth gen females are currently:

1. Girls - 2M+

2. After Like - 1.9M+

3. Checkmate (ITZY) - 1.2M

4. New Jeans - 1.1M (will easily climb)

 

If Girls was an underperformance, then we haven’t seen a successful era in fourth Gen yet.

We can see a correlation in the increase in sales, babe.

And just a reminder - I’m one of the few users in here who defends ITZY constantly. I also regularly remind everyone that they’ve moved the most units for fourth Gen and are still technically the fourth Gen leaders.

Girls crossed the 2 millions sales? 

2 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

Don’t worry BM was just a cash grab album they needed money to serve SOTY. they’re coming with another quality album I fear. 
 

i love how people don’t see the token stanning because they “support great music” yeah lol 

and they did serve soty with POPPY but no one batted an eye 

10 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

I don't think all of the NewJennies stanning is "token stanning" because they genuinely feel "fresh" compared to other GGs even if I'm not a huge stan so far, but some of it is pretty obvious. The sudden switch on IVE too here when they haven't even release a new song is hilarious. I can see the following happening in the future

 

NewJennies release an "underwhelming" song -> it "underperforms" -> suddenly the masks start falling -> moving on to the next victim

 

Baby Monster are next  

11 minutes ago, Eternium said:

The digital performance of the title track was an underperformance (220M). The digital performance of Illusion was a smash and the second-biggest for a B-side ever (250M). Girls was the best-selling female album ever on Circle and has only been surpassed since by BlackPink’s studio album Born Pink.

 

In terms of units pushed (and excluding tacked on songs that were released earlier), the biggest eras of fourth gen females are currently:

1. Girls - 2M+

2. After Like - 1.9M+

3. Checkmate (ITZY) - 1.2M

4. New Jeans - 1.1M (will easily climb)

 

If Girls was an underperformance, then we haven’t seen a successful era in fourth Gen yet.

We can see a correlation in the increase in sales, babe.

And just a reminder - I’m one of the few users in here who defends ITZY constantly. I also regularly remind everyone that they’ve moved the most units for fourth Gen and are still technically the fourth Gen leaders.

i mean the title track underperformed and they became overshadowed by ive newjeans and le sserafim throughout the whole year of 2022as other user stated here they've already secured a big fanbase so that's no surprise for them, also they've got two members who've been around the industry for longer than most current girlies

 

there has even been a discussion on pann or something saying that aespas concept is lame

Edited January 2, 20233 yr by sourprint
typo

should have choose this song instead of BM  

 

 

If SLAYC had put out Butterfly Young luv and Papi papi (Korean version) as singles instead of beautiful monster they woulda stayed smashing. But you cant take the nugu out of the nugu group unfortunately 

anyway Miss Isa is stunning in this fc so we continue to stan 

 

6 minutes ago, Adama said:

I also remember the day when Poppy was released, I remember people on this thread loving it.  

1 minute ago, Adama said:

should have choose this song instead of BM  

 

 

such a wasted oppurtunity ugh  i wish they could release a korean version and promote it as a title track

this babymonster girl has so much IT girl potential

apparently she's 2006 and korean so I can see YG putting bets on her

 

5 minutes ago, Flomik said:

this babymonster girl has so much IT girl potential

apparently she's 2006 and korean so I can see YG putting bets on her

 

The Jennie-Garam-Yunjin xerox 

Edited January 2, 20233 yr by Witnessed ET

aespa needs more Illusion, Lucid Dream and Dreams Come True and they will be good 

 

10 minutes ago, Adama said:

 

Girls crossed the 2 millions sales? 

Those are units. It has sold 1.8M pure but then it has 500M+ digital points (over 83M domestic streams) and over 160M on Spotify.

2 minutes ago, Hazy said:

aespa needs more Illusion, Lucid Dream and Dreams Come True and they will be good 

 

The way I’ve been preaching and saying and praying 

they need to ditch the kwangya nonsense before it’s too late lol

Girls flopping was a sign that people have had enough 

10 minutes ago, BowWow said:

If SLAYC had put out Butterfly Young luv and Papi papi (Korean version) as singles instead of beautiful monster they woulda stayed smashing. But you cant take the nugu out of the nugu group unfortunately 

anyway Miss Isa is stunning in this fc so we continue to stan 

 

She looked amazing

5 minutes ago, Flomik said:

this babymonster girl has so much IT girl potential

apparently she's 2006 and korean so I can see YG putting bets on her

 

YGE can’t manage big group. Baemon will be like Ikon : Bi + Bobby and friends. 
 

I guess she will be one of the most pushed member. 

 

2 minutes ago, Eternium said:

Those are units. It has sold 1.8M pure but then it has 500M+ digital points (over 83M domestic streams) and over 160M on Spotify.

Oh got it 

No more slow minimalistic songs from NewJeans, for their summer comeback, Imma need an upbeat bop.  

17 minutes ago, BigBangStan said:

Baby Monster are next  

I don't see it tbh, but I know Mel will be coming for their necks if they switch 

This thread is so repetitive and literally goes around in circles. Yes IVE,NJ,LSF queens of Kpop. Aespa flops of the century. But I'd pay a lot of money to see your faves thriving with a song like Girls, you all just need to realize, the song didn't click but the GP was crazy about aespa, Girls/Illusion/LTS charting together for weeks proves it, in fact, had SM focused on LTS and Illusion they could have ended with a better result. 

 

What concerns me though, is the awful output, who approved that Girls album, so boring and downright BAD. 

6 hours ago, Adama said:

It’s kinda insane how Irene career never bounced back after her scandal. Like it’s been years but she still over . 

I guess, relying only on visuals never works in the long term bc sis has nothing else except RV now. 

 

zero cfs

zero mc gigs 

zero drama or mv roles 

zero hf magazines shooting 

I didn’t know it was that bad oh god  why can’t women bully in peace

6 hours ago, getinthezone said:

it hurt her but isnt she pushing 30 years? thats ancient in k-pop

Iu, Yoona, if you’re popular you will keep getting gigs into your 30s. The way she dropped to zero is telling. 

On 1/1/2023 at 1:53 PM, Queenyoncee said:

@Kety @Sorecer @Gaia 

 

Only the Nation’s Vokalist

FADspa stans playing the victim nowit’s actually crazy how they were saying that aespa was going to be the new NGG just a few months ago  I’d be frustrated too.

9 minutes ago, k4rmabutterfly said:

FADspa stans playing the victim nowit’s actually crazy how they were saying that aespa was going to be the new NGG just a few months ago  I’d be frustrated too.

so unserious