13 hours ago, Démodé said:

I listened to Music Box in full for the first time last night and.... To say it didn't click is an understatement.

I only knew the two classics Hero and Without You, but I wasn't really hooked in by the rest of the tracks unfortunately. The b-sides devour the standard album, especially Do You Think of Me.

The remixes were cute, hopefully they pop off more next era.

Anytime You Need a Friend C+C is an incredible remix and I love soul convention too. I prefer Litter Box b sides like All I Live For extended, Everything Fades Away, Do You Think of Me. Dreamlover, AYNAF, and Now That I Know from the album

1 minute ago, suburbannature said:

b sides like All I Live For extended, Everything Fades Away, Do You Think of Me. Dreamlover, AYNAF, and Now That I Know from the album

yes, these were my instants as well! i'll give the remixes a spin soon again

2 minutes ago, Démodé said:

yes, these were my instants as well! i'll give the remixes a spin soon again

Litter Box is bottom tier Mariah for me. It's clear that was the era during which Mottola had the most influence in choosing the tracklist or making Mariah write a certain way because the best tracks were left on the cutting room floor.

I can see why it sold 800 million copies, but it just is not a strong reflection of her musical prowess.

Just now, suburbannature said:

Litter Box is bottom tier Mariah for me. It's clear that was the era during which Mottola had the most influence in choosing the tracklist or making Mariah write a certain way because the best tracks were left on the cutting room floor.

I can see why it sold 800 million copies, but it just is not a strong reflection of her musical prowess.

It definitely felt a bit lifeless after an album closing with a windy masterpiece

13 hours ago, Démodé said:

I listened to Music Box in full for the first time last night and.... To say it didn't click is an understatement.

I only knew the two classics Hero and Without You, but I wasn't really hooked in by the rest of the tracks unfortunately. The b-sides devour the standard album, especially Do You Think of Me.

The remixes were cute, hopefully they pop off more next era.

It's only up from here I'll always use Dreamlover, title track, and Now That I Know from the standard at least. We can only imagine what the album she wanted to make sounded like, she kinda got stockholmed into liking cheesy stuff like Hero from it being so popular.... which is why I wish she said **** the fans decades ago and performed more album tracks and real fan faves

Just now, Reverie said:

It's only up from here I'll always use Dreamlover, title track, and Now That I Know from the standard at least. We can only imagine what the album she wanted to make sounded like, she kinda got stockholmed into liking cheesy stuff like Hero from it being so popular.... which is why I wish she said **** the fans decades ago and performed more album tracks and real fan faves

Hero is absolute cheese, I'm so sorry

Just now, Démodé said:

Hero is absolute cheese, I'm so sorry

She suffers from being a people pleaser, she didn't even like the song at first and was gonna give it to Gloria Estefan but they made her keep it because the public would eat it up. And then she basically said she would feel guilty for not performing it since everyone tells her it saved their gay little lives so here we are with her closing every show with Hero 3 decades later

Like the fact that she didn't even wanna make a fun remix for it because it reeks too much of cheese

Edited August 25Aug 25 by Reverie

1 hour ago, Démodé said:

Hero is absolute cheese, I'm so sorry

I definitely don't love the studio version, but the live version is one of my favorites. It has so much more passion.

And Tokyo Dome ofc

y'all know about this??

To celebrate the release of Mariah's #1's compilation, Sony Music UK's Urban Division issued a limited-edition promo-only 10-vinyl box set containing the major remixes of Mariah's hits.

phew

Didn't Mean to Turn You On is my introduction to the Glitter era and I love it

1 minute ago, Démodé said:

Didn't Mean to Turn You On is my introduction to the Glitter era and I love it

#ThankYouCherrelle

Just now, conatus said:

#ThankYouCherrelle

It's true, I also don't get the hate for the remix. Is it the vocals?

On 8/24/2026 at 7:42 PM, suburbannature said:

y'all know about this??

Always wanted to own this when I first saw it on Discogs YEARS ago, even before I started by vinyl this decade!

There are other artists who have similar remix vinyl boxsets like Whitney but by far Mariah's feel the most complete and most sense with them actually being fleshed out re-written, re-recorded remixes.

experimental queen

10 minutes ago, Démodé said:

It's true, I also don't get the hate for the remix. Is it the vocals?

The new one?? Everyone loves it

11 minutes ago, Démodé said:

It's true, I also don't get the hate for the remix. Is it the vocals?

I'd be lying if I said the one thing stopping me from really loving the Moo/Rochelle remix isn't Moo's voice at points, or at least the mixing on her parts specifically. There's moments where it feels like I hear clipping and it pisses me off.

41 minutes ago, conatus said:

I'd be lying if I said the one thing stopping me from really loving the Moo/Rochelle remix isn't Moo's voice at points, or at least the mixing on her parts specifically. There's moments where it feels like I hear clipping and it pisses me off.

Ι definitely heard the clippings too, I'm letting it go since it's a little gift for the fans

Anytime You Need a Friend is godly!

Music Box is overheated. It's a little middle of the road and whitewashed but other than Never Forget You, nothing is egregiously bad on it and the 90s cheese feels comforting. But yeah, the b-sides devour.

6 hours ago, conatus said:

I'd be lying if I said the one thing stopping me from really loving the Moo/Rochelle remix isn't Moo's voice at points, or at least the mixing on her parts specifically. There's moments where it feels like I hear clipping and it pisses me off.

They're just the 2000 vocals run through a stylistic filter, though. I think there might be one or two new ad libs

23 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

They're just the 2000 vocals run through a stylistic filter, though. I think there might be one or two new ad libs

Are we 100% sure about that? Because it definitely sounds more like 20sriah to me, idk. Like I say, the issue is probably more so the vocal clipping anyway.

1 minute ago, conatus said:

Are we 100% sure about that? Because it definitely sounds more like 20sriah to me, idk. Like I say, the issue is probably more so the vocal clipping anyway.

Yeah, it's the original song's vocals. They just have an effect added to them.

I don't hear any clipping, tbh. You mean where Rochelle is added?

2 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

Yeah, it's the original song's vocals. They just have an effect added to them.

I don't hear any clipping, tbh. You mean where Rochelle is added?

No, on Moo's verses. Would say maybe I'm losing my mind but if @Démodé heard them too then at least I'm not alone in my madness.

Just now, conatus said:

No, on Moo's verses. Would say maybe I'm losing my mind but if @Démodé heard them too then at least I'm not alone in my madness.

Maybe I'm the one losing it, but I don't hear anything noteworthy. The only thing I don't love is the effect on the vocals, but I recognize that it's a stylistic choice for the remix. Rochelle should have had it too, but it's not that big of a deal, imo.

Huge bop for me