got a ticket for ny  this is gonna be insaneeeeee 

So off topic but I watched Haylie's appearance on the 7th Heaven podcast last night and the way she referred to Luca's birth is so horrible, she said "her being in labour" instead of "my sister being in labour" or something and it just made me think about that time she said that Hilary was the good daughter that would never elope and all that.

 

I feel like whatever happened is something deeper than just politics, it almost seems as if it's Haylie the one that's mad at Hilary.

 

It all started when she missed Mae's birth because she was busy shooting something, but then Hilary posted that picture when she met Mae Mae, Matt unfollowed her on IG right after that and the rest is a mystery and I think it will remain that way because Susan would kill Hilary if she talked **** or wrote a song about the feud.

On 11/16/2025 at 1:58 PM, rcksluke said:

You guys need to stop thinking Mature charting on Hot 100 is something that will harm her in any way

I hardly think that, since when has Hilary ever been a singles artist?

 

The satisfaction of it debuting is what fans were wanting.

1 hour ago, eduardolevit said:

got a ticket for ny  this is gonna be insaneeeeee 

The Queen wasn't lying when she said she'd be seeing YOU soon. 

 

31 minutes ago, theedmontonkid said:

So off topic but I watched Haylie's appearance on the 7th Heaven podcast last night and the way she referred to Luca's birth is so horrible, she said "her being in labour" instead of "my sister being in labour" or something and it just made me think about that time she said that Hilary was the good daughter that would never elope and all that.

 

I feel like whatever happened is something deeper than just politics, it almost seems as if it's Haylie the one that's mad at Hilary.

 

It all started when she missed Mae's birth because she was busy shooting something, but then Hilary posted that picture when she met Mae Mae, Matt unfollowed her on IG right after that and the rest is a mystery and I think it will remain that way because Susan would kill Hilary if she talked **** or wrote a song about the feud.

When did Haylie record this podcast? I remember watching some press interviews for some movie Haylie directed or starred in earlier in the year, and she said "never say never" in response to working with Hilary in another film, but that honestly could have been a cute PR answer. 

1 hour ago, theedmontonkid said:

So off topic but I watched Haylie's appearance on the 7th Heaven podcast last night and the way she referred to Luca's birth is so horrible, she said "her being in labour" instead of "my sister being in labour" or something and it just made me think about that time she said that Hilary was the good daughter that would never elope and all that.

 

I feel like whatever happened is something deeper than just politics, it almost seems as if it's Haylie the one that's mad at Hilary.

 

It all started when she missed Mae's birth because she was busy shooting something, but then Hilary posted that picture when she met Mae Mae, Matt unfollowed her on IG right after that and the rest is a mystery and I think it will remain that way because Susan would kill Hilary if she talked **** or wrote a song about the feud.

Yeah I thought it was weird they didn't ask about Hilary literally every interview I've seen with Haylie someone always ask about Hilary 

 

I think that  maybe Haylie doesn't like Matt for whatever reason 

 

I feel like she been mostly absent from Hilary life after Matt came on the scene 

 

some say it because of their parents divorce but Hilary and Haylie were still close 

 

so I don't know and guess we never will know the real reason 

2 hours ago, broolprop3 said:

Yeah I thought it was weird they didn't ask about Hilary literally every interview I've seen with Haylie someone always ask about Hilary 

 

I think that  maybe Haylie doesn't like Matt for whatever reason 

 

I feel like she been mostly absent from Hilary life after Matt came on the scene 

 

some say it because of their parents divorce but Hilary and Haylie were still close 

 

so I don't know and guess we never will know the real reason 

Honestly it's sad because they used to be so close and I remember when Haylie decided to move back to Texas, Hil made a birthday post for her talking about how life was taking them for different paths and everything and now they just don't talk about each other and Hilary was always praising her sister and now everything is so weird.

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3 hours ago, infidelity said:

The Queen wasn't lying when she said she'd be seeing YOU soon. 

just wish i knew it was gonna cost me an arm and a leg

I could be recalling this wrong but didn't the Haylie fallout happen during COVID? And we theorized that Haylie was anti-vaxx and Matt was having none of it. Hilary had to choose a side and Haylie is upset she chose her husband.

 

This is at least how it played out in my head

49 minutes ago, ItsRic said:

I could be recalling this wrong but didn't the Haylie fallout happen during COVID? And we theorized that Haylie was anti-vaxx and Matt was having none of it. Hilary had to choose a side and Haylie is upset she chose her husband.

 

This is at least how it played out in my head

You might be right but I feel if it had anything to do with it, Susan would have made them work things out by now and everything would be fine, so again I think it's deeper than that and it's something they keep very private, otherwise some real "close source" would have spoken about it with TMZ or some ****.

9 hours ago, theedmontonkid said:

You might be right but I feel if it had anything to do with it, Susan would have made them work things out by now and everything would be fine, so again I think it's deeper than that and it's something they keep very private, otherwise some real "close source" would have spoken about it with TMZ or some ****.

Hayley's feud seems to extend to Susan'a as well. She always posts stuff with her father and I can't recall the last time she posted Susan.

Hilary HQ and Hilary herself needs to post a few more stuff about Mature

As predicted Hilary didn't chart unfortunately 

 

but I'm sure when the album drops she will definitely chart with that 

 

at least the tour sold out so she's probably still on a high from that 

1 minute ago, broolprop3 said:

As predicted Hilary didn't chart unfortunately 

 

but I'm sure when the album drops she will definitely chart with that 

 

at least the tour sold out so she's probably still on a high from that 

I'm thinking the album will be the only release to have substantial backing behind it at this stage. Once it's announced (which truly could be tomorrow), it'll be the core focus going forward with the docuseries and residency announcement to further push it during release week and beyond. 

I wonder when/if we'll see the adverts/teases pop up in other cities before Friday.... Hoping we get London and Tokyo in addition to Paris cause, ya know 

 

It's definitely teasing the speculated album name, so do we think it could be preorders for it, a release date, and/or the store launching on 11/21?

10 minutes ago, SafeAndSound said:

I wonder when/if we'll see the adverts/teases pop up in other cities before Friday.... Hoping we get London and Tokyo in addition to Paris cause, ya know 

 

It's definitely teasing the speculated album name, so do we think it could be preorders for it, a release date, and/or the store launching on 11/21?

I'm suspecting it'll be everything and I'm already so nervous about securing a signed edition of the album/vinyls. I also need her to have a killer looking sweater and t-shirt. Are we expecting a global announcement or do we think the digital pre-order will go live at midnight local time in each timezone?

Do you guys remember when she did the Fanjoy edition for BIBO?

That was such a cool way to include the fans in the release. I will forever cherish having my name printed in the album booklet. 

 

Have there been any other sightings of these teaser posters?

4 hours ago, SafeAndSound said:

I wonder when/if we'll see the adverts/teases pop up in other cities before Friday.... Hoping we get London and Tokyo in addition to Paris cause, ya know 

 

It's definitely teasing the speculated album name, so do we think it could be preorders for it, a release date, and/or the store launching on 11/21?

Hopefully all at once 

On 11/19/2025 at 2:46 AM, broolprop3 said:

As predicted Hilary didn't chart unfortunately 

 

but I'm sure when the album drops she will definitely chart with that 

 

at least the tour sold out so she's probably still on a high from that 

How many Christmas songs are on the chart? I'm curious which position it would have without them 

57 minutes ago, PieceBy said:

How many Christmas songs are on the chart? I'm curious which position it would have without them 

8 Christmas songs on the chart. Without them, Mature would've been #96. 

8 hours ago, Crank_It_Up said:

8 Christmas songs on the chart. Without them, Mature would've been #96. 

This is why I wish she waited til next year to start but it seems like the album may be coming in January so it does make sense if true 

 

but she did chart higher than Katy Perry and Charli xcx which is huge for her since those artists are bigger 

22 hours ago, SafeAndSound said:

I wonder when/if we'll see the adverts/teases pop up in other cities before Friday.... Hoping we get London and Tokyo in addition to Paris cause, ya know 

omg they heard me 

Silly question...but do we count Santa Clause Lane as one of her studio albums? I know Metamorphosis was her official debut album, but I guess my question is if this upcoming album will be considered HD5 or HD6   

 

Not to completely erase SCL since it's a special gift from her early years, but I think it should stay in its own lane

9 minutes ago, SafeAndSound said:

Silly question...but do we count Santa Clause Lane as one of her studio albums? I know Metamorphosis was her official debut album, but I guess my question is if this upcoming album will be considered HD5 or HD6   

 

Not to completely erase SCL since it's a special gift from her early years, but I think it should stay in its own lane

i don't count it

 

she has 4 studio albums, about to birth the 5th one!

HD5 here we come 

 

22 minutes ago, SafeAndSound said:

Silly question...but do we count Santa Clause Lane as one of her studio albums? I know Metamorphosis was her official debut album, but I guess my question is if this upcoming album will be considered HD5 or HD6   

 

Not to completely erase SCL since it's a special gift from her early years, but I think it should stay in its own lane

I've never counted it as a studio album, it's a side project imo.