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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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1 minute ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Imagine a surprise drop titled "RnB" by Rihanna and Beyonce painting the past and future of RnB music.

 

I dont know exactly what it would sound like, but I know streaming records would be broken :jonnycat:

Hmm... No offence but this doesn't stir anything within me. 

 

Similarly, I struggle to see her do a full project with another artist - simple because I do not really consider them on her level. And similarly with Riri. She's a hitmaker sure, but B is on a completely different artistic plane, moreso since this act's trilogy where bey has become unchained and unleashed, she is out here breaking all conventions of genre's and pushing her voice to never before places. 

 

However... I would LOVE a joint project where B works with some legendary producer like Hans Zimmer. Similar to how Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerrard worked together for the original Gladiator film (and created straight up magic). This has been a dream of mine because it would be two giants meeting and I think Zimmer would push Bey into new teerritories while B would offer musical instinct, experience and an instrument (in her voice) that Zimmer has never had before. 

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4 minutes ago, Calypso said:

Hmm... No offence but this doesn't stir anything within me. 

 

Similarly, I struggle to see her do a full project with another artist - simple because I do not really consider them on her level. And similarly with Riri. She's a hitmaker sure, but B is on a completely different artistic plane, moreso since this act's trilogy where bey has become unchained and unleashed, she is out here breaking all conventions of genre's and pushing her voice to never before places. 

 

However... I would LOVE a joint project where B works with some legendary producer like Hans Zimmer. Similar to how Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerrard worked together for the original Gladiator film (and created straight up magic). This has been a dream of mine because it would be two giants meeting and I think Zimmer would push Bey into new teerritories while B would offer musical instinct, experience and an instrument (in her voice) that Zimmer has never had before. 

I was just thinking of someone whod basically guarantee bombastic reception (commercially speaking) 

 

Artistically, I'd agree with u. 

A fusion of classical music and RnB/HipHop would be insane. :jonny6:

5 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Exhausting to think of whats to come since Bey is likely going to surpass our ideas

 

That's the thing. 

 

My gut and history have me largely convinced she will exceed our expectations. 

 

BUT...there's that little bit of the rational/adult in me that kinda has that mentality of preparing for all possibilities. So, being blown away, being decently satisfied, being slightly underwhelmed. 

 

As said above, it's the literal lack of intel on the format that makes it hard to settle on any one stance. 

 

She could give us the grandest, most jaw-dropping thing ever and we'll be gagged. 

 

At the same time, I think I personally would be disappointed if it's short, overly pre-taped, or doesn't feature songs from her wider discography. I LOVE CC, but this is just as much a moment to plug the album as it is a GP moment. She has a bunch of newer GP faves that haven't received the Halftime treatment and may never again. Drunk in Love, Cuff It, BMS, Savage...so would be cool to see her sprinkle some aspect of them in amidst the yeehaw of it all.

Maybe I got used to Bey's pace, but I really want to see more from this era. The upcoming performance, hopefully a tour, a remix or two (maybe released after the Grammys) don't sound unrealistic. I want more of course (maybe a guest feature on someone's album) but not ready for a whole new album. I don't want her to become like Drake releasing all the time new albums and singles, oversaturating the market (which is not her at all anyway).

32 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

But does anyone else wish Beyonce would do a joint album or even EP with another big Urban act that isn't Jay?

her and Kendrick would be an instant classic. they already love to collaborate, and I believe that they compliment each other well. their existing songs don't showcase what they could do together 

 

another artist that would make magic with her is Frank Ocean. just look at their existing collabs. and my long time dream collab for her is Janelle Monae 

13 minutes ago, Calypso said:

Hmm... No offence but this doesn't stir anything within me. 

 

Similarly, I struggle to see her do a full project with another artist - simple because I do not really consider them on her level. And similarly with Riri. She's a hitmaker sure, but B is on a completely different artistic plane, moreso since this act's trilogy where bey has become unchained and unleashed, she is out here breaking all conventions of genre's and pushing her voice to never before places. 

 

However... I would LOVE a joint project where B works with some legendary producer like Hans Zimmer. Similar to how Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerrard worked together for the original Gladiator film (and created straight up magic). This has been a dream of mine because it would be two giants meeting and I think Zimmer would push Bey into new teerritories while B would offer musical instinct, experience and an instrument (in her voice) that Zimmer has never had before. 

I hear you, but I think this is where my Chart Hive'ness kicks in. 

 

The reality of the matter is that there actually isn't anyone truly equally yoked with Bey at this stage. 

 

So, as much as I like that she rightfully treats herself as the premium she is, it's not much fun propping her up on so much of a pedestal where collabs with others who perhaps primarily excel in other areas (e.g. commercial darlings) is off the table. 

 

She's also shown that she is ready, willing, and occasionally wanting to swoop down from the clouds to snatch a quick set of hits (e.g. Savage, Mi Gente, Perfect). 

 

So, IMO, I'd like to see her evolve her "quick lil hit" approach in an innovative way with mini projects that still feel grand on paper. 

 

Doing a whole album with a Rih, for instance, probably won't happen as Bey is a hands-on creative and Rih...isn't lol. But the semantics of even mini-project (for the culture) and the sure-fire hit potential, would make me all on board. Same for a Bruno, a Miley (if in the land of CC), Kendrick, and similar. 

 

Bey is all about innovation and one thing I've clocked is that very rarely do the collabs "everyone wants" deliver in totality when it's a one track thing.

 

MJ and Janet's Scream actually isn't as big of a US hit as people think and it got its flowers as the years passed on. Same with Whitney and Mariah's When You Believe.

 

So, I think going the multi-track route lessens the pressure on any one song to smash and gives multiple opportunities for something (or all of it) to stick. 

10 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

just look at their existing collabs. and my long time dream collab for her is Janelle Monae 

Would be a great collab for a rock album.

Knowing her, she's probably been rehearsing since late Summer. |

I would love for her to drop some BTS leading up to the show. The initial creative meetings, etc. 

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10 minutes ago, dnboy1 said:

Knowing her, she's probably been rehearsing since late Summer. |

I would love for her to drop some BTS leading up to the show. The initial creative meetings, etc. 

Was literally thinking this. 

 

She (like most big acts) seems to be beyond the era of throwing BTS on YouTube. Nowadays, it's documenting it and shopping it to a streamer or releasing it in theaters. Because kaching $$$$.

 

Wouldn't it be delightfully epic if Bey dropped a "Road to Halftime" special on Netflix post-performance? It actually would make more sense packaging that with the performance than trying to push the RWT film amidst a whole new era.

 

What's more, it would tick-box another of her Netflix projects and naturally bleed into promotion for a CC tour, if there is one. Even if there is no tour, it gives the CC era a visual "something" ahead of the long-loading film for all the acts.

 

Sidebar: I want the RWT film to be released somewhere as much as the next person. But, I'm starting to clock that for as much as Bey is pulling off this monumental three-act era, there is going to be a lot of collateral along the way. And vaulting the RWT film because it doesn't align with the current project timeline (which I imagine is shapeshifting by the day) is one of those necessary evils. 

A ST re-release is needed. She can include Grown Woman, Standing on the Sun and Donk. Separate Ghost/Haunted and Yoncé/Partition into separate tracks.

1 hour ago, Calypso said:

However... I would LOVE a joint project where B works with some legendary producer like Hans Zimmer. Similar to how Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerrard worked together for the original Gladiator film (and created straight up magic). This has been a dream of mine because it would be two giants meeting and I think Zimmer would push Bey into new teerritories while B would offer musical instinct, experience and an instrument (in her voice) that Zimmer has never had before.

So spooky how I've always hoped for a collaboration with Hans. I really it was going to happen for The Lion King. 

And yeah no, to the other one. I actually think that would flop big time. 

Deleted cuz I don't want to set myself up. I trust bey with what ever vision she has 

Edited by Calypso

The other thing I can't really fathom is why she's doing this on... Christmas Day

As a mother to very young children, this is a really significant decision she's made.

To me, that indicates some sort of fire under her ahhss to really create a moment with this album - which excites me. But as it's Christmas Day I just cannot imagine there being many dancers or musicians willing to give up their day for a 10 minute Beyonce gig. But then...who of us wouldn't give up their family holiday one year for a Xmas with Beyonce? 

It's all a bit confusing. And really hard to picture tbh.

2 minutes ago, alien superstore said:

The other thing I can't really fathom is why she's doing this on... Christmas Day

As a mother to very young children, this is a really significant decision she's made.

To me, that indicates some sort of fire under her ahhss to really create a moment with this album - which excites me. But as it's Christmas Day I just cannot imagine there being many dancers or musicians willing to give up their day for a 10 minute Beyonce gig. But then...who of us wouldn't give up their family holiday one year for a Xmas with Beyonce? 

It's all a bit confusing. And really hard to picture tbh.

I agree. I'm shook. Something big has to be coming. 

And thats the other thing!! Is this going to include christmas music? Covers of christmas songs? Bruh I'm LOST

1 hour ago, Burn said:

A ST re-release is needed. She can include Grown Woman, Standing on the Sun and Donk. Separate Ghost/Haunted and Yoncé/Partition into separate tracks.

To add to this I wish she would start releasing anniversary editions of her old albums. They've always been a thing but recently it seems like they're becoming more popular again. Artists such as Ariana, Mariah, Janet, Gaga, Alicia Keys, Nicki, John Legend have all recently released them. Even Taylor is cashing in on nostalgia in her own way with the Taylor's Versions.

 

I was hoping we'd get a 20 year edition of DIL last year but she let it pass without doing anything.
 

Is it maybe because she doesn't care about revisiting her old stuff and would rather keep moving forward? I kinda get it but it feels like there's untapped potential.

Edited by Burn

54 minutes ago, alien superstore said:

The other thing I can't really fathom is why she's doing this on... Christmas Day

As a mother to very young children, this is a really significant decision she's made.

To me, that indicates some sort of fire under her ahhss to really create a moment with this album - which excites me. But as it's Christmas Day I just cannot imagine there being many dancers or musicians willing to give up their day for a 10 minute Beyonce gig. But then...who of us wouldn't give up their family holiday one year for a Xmas with Beyonce? 

It's all a bit confusing. And really hard to picture tbh.

I used to dance semi-professionally in my former years and lets just say that: No dancer has ANY issues to dance a show on festive holidays like that if the cash is right.

An opportunity to create a legendary performance with the legendary Beyonce which basically impacts your entire salary going forward?

Oh trust and believe no one gives a crap about missing out on christmas with the fam lol

 

Thats literally a once in a lifetime chance for any aspiring dancer

Edited by Kristie Kuwa

I'm placing bets on her announcing Act III after the performance. 

I really can't see her touring again until all three acts are out. Hence the one-off halftime show. 

1 hour ago, alien superstore said:

The other thing I can't really fathom is why she's doing this on... Christmas Day

As a mother to very young children, this is a really significant decision she's made.

To me, that indicates some sort of fire under her ahhss to really create a moment with this album - which excites me. But as it's Christmas Day I just cannot imagine there being many dancers or musicians willing to give up their day for a 10 minute Beyonce gig. But then...who of us wouldn't give up their family holiday one year for a Xmas with Beyonce? 

It's all a bit confusing. And really hard to picture tbh.

For creatives, especially one as tough a scene as for dancers, it's not a big deal to perform on holidays at all. Especially one SO epic. To perform with THE Beyoncé, on her first televised live show in 5+ years, live streamed on Netflix worldover. It's a big deal. 

 

But yes I agree with the rest. Bey clearly has some fire under her ass to make a statement! (or they just paid her big time - especially in NFL and Netflix equity)

1 hour ago, alien superstore said:

The other thing I can't really fathom is why she's doing this on... Christmas Day

As a mother to very young children, this is a really significant decision she's made.

To me, that indicates some sort of fire under her ahhss to really create a moment with this album - which excites me. But as it's Christmas Day I just cannot imagine there being many dancers or musicians willing to give up their day for a 10 minute Beyonce gig. But then...who of us wouldn't give up their family holiday one year for a Xmas with Beyonce? 

It's all a bit confusing. And really hard to picture tbh.

For creatives, especially one as tough a scene as for dancers, it's not a big deal to perform on holidays at all. Especially one SO epic. To perform with THE Beyoncé, on her first televised live show in 5+ years, live streamed on Netflix worldover. It's a big deal. 

 

But yes I agree with the rest. Bey clearly has some fire under her ass to make a statement! (or they just paid her big time - especially in NFL and Netflix equity)

Also not everyone celebrates or likes Christmas so not sure all those involved in the production care. You get Christmas every year, but only one chance to work with Bey. What an unforgettable experience it would be for them too. I am jealous…

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