ACT 1 was definitely supposed to have visuals but I don't think she was satisfied with it on time. The era began… Break My Soul went #1, and she had record breaking tour sales… At that point it was evident she didn't need visuals to carry the era.. (a first for her since "4")

 

ACT 2 visuals is definitely out the picture. At least for now…. And although CC did decently I don't think she's planning to tour until ACT 3 is out. 
 

At this point the visuals are just a secret weapon she can use to drive up hype for the trilogy tour... Which we all know she won't need that. 

All 3 ACTS might just go without visuals and she'll save that for the album that comes after.. in 2028-2030. 
 

 

Edited September 11, 20241 yr by CristianGarcia

20 hours ago, helpthomas said:

i've been yearning to see the rennie film again ever since i went to the global premiere. so my question is: has anyone stumbled upon any type of (good, hq) recording or rip or even ill*g*l le*k of the film yet? because i simply cannot spend any more patience

gotta bump my own question bc i'm desperate

Ughhh the GQ spread is immaculate, she looks sooo good  it's giving transition to ACT III rock 

 

I guess this interview also confirms why she never returned to Asia/Australia - she said only tours when it fits in with her kids' school holidays. We really LOST 😭 and will continue to lose. Although, I heard another rumour today that she's about to announce a 'global' tour imminently... lol 

Edited September 11, 20241 yr by BeyBronts

1 minute ago, BeyBronts said:

Ughhh the GQ spread is immaculate, she looks sooo good  it's giving transition to ACT III rock 

 

I guess this interview also confirms why she never returned to Asia/Australia - she said only tours when it fits in with her kids' school holidays. We really LOST 😭 and will continue to lose. Although, I heard another rumour today that she's about to announce a 'global' tour imminently... lol 

Link the rumour!
 

Also...where are you guys seeing rock in these photos? Is it the cowboy hat? The whisky? The western saloon doors? The soft glam? The high heels? The dolly parton hair? The Cowboy Carter bleach wig? I'm honestly at a loss haha

11 hours ago, sleepevaded said:

all i know is she didn't scrap them nnn she knows exactly what she's doing and there's not a single universe in which BEYONCÉ would publicly announce+confirm+tease visuals and not release them lol

look around you bb

1 minute ago, alien superstore said:

Link the rumour!
 

Also...where are you guys seeing rock in these photos? Is it the cowboy hat? The whisky? The western saloon doors? The soft glam? The high heels? The dolly parton hair? The Cowboy Carter bleach wig? I'm honestly at a loss haha

This came from a friend who has a close relation at Ticketek Australia... so no link, sorry! I obviously don't believe it though haha 

26 minutes ago, BeyBronts said:

Ughhh the GQ spread is immaculate, she looks sooo good  it's giving transition to ACT III rock 

 

I guess this interview also confirms why she never returned to Asia/Australia - she said only tours when it fits in with her kids' school holidays. We really LOST 😭 and will continue to lose. Although, I heard another rumour today that she's about to announce a 'global' tour imminently... lol 

The anouncement has been imminent for the last 1 year 

Granted logic and predictability have long gone out of the window with this trilogy, I legit could see her dropping the visual component (for everything) in conjunction with the launch of Act III. Thus tying everything together, ending the chaos, and making it the one Act to truly benefit from having visuals out of the gate (which will dub as "promo" in place of her doing anything conventional). The drawback is that Acts I and II will, visually speaking, have been the sacrificial lambs...but hey it is what it is at this point. 

 

IMO she's used up the goodwill and stunt-ery on Acts I and II with the whole "no visuals" thing. Even from a marketing perspective, it's no longer the flex she thinks it is. I'm very dialed into the reality that Bey is not above stunt marketing and has, in fact, very actively embraced it for the last decade plus. From the surprise drop to the visual album to the genre experimenting. There's always an angle, a story, a (for the lack of a better word)...gimmick. It's worked well, but as we even saw with BIK (which is exceptional and ironically her best visual to date iMO), there comes a point when the audience gets tired of the same marketing schtick. Especially from someone who has the fortunate/unfortunate rep of always having to innovate every time.

 

That plus the fact that the GP has diminishing attention spans plus the Hive's frustrations pluuuuus the fact Act III is likely another left genre (which comes with the risk of polarizing), I can't see her chancing another visual-less release unless she's looking to flop. CC has done well but it wasn't Rennie from a momentum perspective, so there has to be a fresh stunt (outside of just another genre switch) for Act III and I really think it will be finally giving the visuals and making everything make sense (holistically).

 

Sidebar: Pls spare me the "she doesn't care about sales. She's a saboteur!" spiel. Because her flogging those Beyince vinyls to snatch high first week sales says otherwise and makes abundantly clear that she and her label care about her commercial performance. 2000%.

This whole thing, in a bizarre way, just reminds that as much as her perfectionist nature is legit and baked into her brand, the reality is that ish can and has gone left and forced her to "figure it out" as best she can. IMO, the following have all gone awry (against the backdrop of the music doing well) and impacted where we are now:

 

* The Visual Itself: she wasn't satisfied, bunch of reshoots, and potential reconfiguration of the entire concept.

 

* Streamer Push Back: I also believe the streamer reluctance tea (as they largely have pulled back on splashy/costly music partnerships. That AMC model she and Taylor did is becoming way more attractive/lucrative to stars who otherwise would have got big streaming checks around Homecoming time e.g. BTS did an AMC film, Usher doing something similar now off the back of his resurgence).

 

* Injury: We know she got the surgery just before the tour, but she had been shooting videos before that. Assuming she had been managing to get by, I can imagine that would have affected her ability for things like choreo. A posey-posey, choreo-starved visual for a Dance album would have got her dragged and may actually contribute to her (alleged) dissatisfaction. That and her aesthetic (another day, another convo). Let's just say our girl looks more agile and Beyonce-esque now than she did in 2022 when shooting.

 

* The Sphere Fell Through: We shouldn't undercut how one piece of the puzzle f**king up can have a domino effect on other ish. Assuming she really was teasing a residency with the Super Bowl commercial, it's safe to say, she would have launched it this Summer (in alignment with her kids' schedule). That changing easily could have thrown the entire CC era off its axis (behind the scenes). Her only other live output would be a stadium tour and we know she's a summer babe. Stadium dates are booked months, sometimes up to a year in advance. So, the Sphere falling through would automatically fling a stadium tour or even a residency elsewhere immediately into summer 2025 territory.

 

This was way longer than intended lol, but I just find this current phase of her career so intriguing. IMO, this chapter of hers is way more layered and complex than the info she's given us or what we may assume at times.

Edited September 11, 20241 yr by Cbreezy

22 minutes ago, BeyBronts said:

This came from a friend who has a close relation at Ticketek Australia... so no link, sorry! I obviously don't believe it though haha 

It'd way too late for an announcement, artists typically start touring there around late October/November. And I don't think she would a late 2025 Australia leg „imminently". She most likely won't step foot on another continent for a tour not called Europe or North America for the rest of her 40s and early 50s. 

44 minutes ago, BeyBronts said:

Ughhh the GQ spread is immaculate, she looks sooo good  it's giving transition to ACT III rock 

 

I guess this interview also confirms why she never returned to Asia/Australia - she said only tours when it fits in with her kids' school holidays. We really LOST 😭 and will continue to lose. Although, I heard another rumour today that she's about to announce a 'global' tour imminently... lol 

Hoping it's true. Also saw this about UK 2025 dates and don't know if it was posted here:

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/30345038/beyonce-head-to-head-oasis-summer-stadium-gigs/

 

Trying not to get too conjure-ish, but her popping up/out (e.g. GQ) tends to align with her dropping/doing something. It may well be a promotional piece for SirDavis and Cecred. But could also form part of creating pre-tour announcement visibility. 

 

2 minutes ago, BeyBronts said:

as I said, I didn't believe it when I was told - especially as tour 'rumours' have been swirling for months now.  

I doubt she will tour until act 3 has been released and she will perform the acts as a trilogy

I iono about the "touring when Act III" is out idea

 

The vibe I'm getting is that each Act is its own distinct... thing. 

 

I feel it was/is: Rennie = full-fledged tour / CC = residency, at least the initial plan / Act III = tour. maybe promoted as her swansong for a while.

 

For instance, I can't see a setup where the material on Rennie would work conceptually in the world of CC and vice versa. So, I'd be inclined to think she has something fully fleshed out for CC (which is a long af album as it is) and something specific or Act III.

 

That said, we don't know what Act III is and, to your point, maybe it will work sonically and visually in the realm of CC (Country and Rock are quite aligned aesthetically). But merging it together when Rennie got its own standalone tour would slightly undermine it IMO and establish Rennie tour and era overal as supreme. Which, even though it likely is, doesn't serve to "sell" the current era and upcoming one with the sheen and shine deserved.

 

TBH, I know I'm being pedantic because it's "Beyonce". We're all going even if it's a b-sides tour lol.

Edited September 11, 20241 yr by Cbreezy

18 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

Hoping it's true. Also saw this about UK 2025 dates and don't know if it was posted here:

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/30345038/beyonce-head-to-head-oasis-summer-stadium-gigs/

 

Trying not to get too conjure-ish, but her popping up/out (e.g. GQ) tends to align with her dropping/doing something. It may well be a promotional piece for SirDavis and Cecred. But could also form part of creating pre-tour announcement visibility. 

 

I iono about the "touring when Act III" is out idea

 

The vibe I'm getting is that each Act is its own distinct... thing. 

 

I feel it was/is: Rennie = full-fledged tour / CC = residency, at least the initial plan / Act III = tour. maybe promoted as her swansong for a while.

 

For instance, I can't see a setup where the material on Rennie would work conceptually in the world of CC and vice versa. So, I'd be inclined to think she has something fully fleshed out for CC (which is a long af album as it is) and something specific or Act III.

 

That said, we don't know what Act III is and, to your point, maybe it will work sonically and visually in the realm of CC (Country and Rock are quite aligned aesthetically). But merging it together when Rennie got its own standalone tour would slightly undermine it IMO and establish Rennie tour and era overal as supreme. Which, even though it likely is, doesn't serve to "sell" the current era and upcoming one with the sheen and shine deserved.

 

TBH, I know I'm being pedantic because it's "Beyonce". We're all going even if it's a b-sides tour lol.

I like your perspective! I hadn't really thought about it like that. I did wonder about the tour rumours having some validity given the timing of the magazine spread and sir Davis promo - however with Bey, I'm always "I'll believe it when I see it" 😂

 

As I mentioned earlier, I think Australia will miss out again (and probably will for as long as she has kids in school🥲). However a European/UK/North American tour during summer 2025 doesn't seem too far fetched. 

Edited September 11, 20241 yr by BeyBronts

16 hours ago, Kingdom said:

No shade but this makes no sense, promotion is not why beyonce was not nominated at the cmas. Not even the album, the song itself. THM is bigger than 90% of the songs nominated. You forget beyonce called out the CMAS publicly, she was never expecting any nominations, she made a point that she could smash with a country song and she did just that. In the process she gave Shaboozey the biggest shine of his career. She accomplished exactly what she set out to do.

Yes she did call them out, and she accomplished what she set out to do. But others are confused as to her not being nominated. Some think she made CC partially to "take country back" and "sweep" the country genre/CMAs. To prove why black voices aren't given their shine in country.

 

My reasonings were directed to the fans that are shocked about her not sweeping the genre and being nommed. Of course promo doesn't matter too much, but there's BARELY any uproar about her lack of nominations after she literally just made the most acclaimed/one of the best selling "country albums" of the year.

 

Her point could've actually had a bigger impact if she cared more about this albums promo and not her business side ventures. Basically what I'm saying is that her actions do not translate to how much she keeps emphasizing how "important" this album is. If she did, there would be a lot more controversy behind it and even more reasons to LISTEN to black voices in the country genre.

 

All I'm saying is no one should be confused by her lack of nominations/recognition when her effort has been more towards her haircare products and not the album.

Edited September 11, 20241 yr by cuteboyzay

1 hour ago, Cbreezy said:

Trying not to get too conjure-ish, but her popping up/out (e.g. GQ) tends to align with her dropping/doing something. It may well be a promotional piece for SirDavis and Cecred. But could also form part of creating pre-tour announcement visibility. 

It's definitely giving British Vogue vibes when she announced Renaissance the same day. Some information is probably coming relatively soon. And imo the interview doesn't come off as a promo tool for her side ventures, she talked quiet a lot about CC, her passion for music etc.

1 hour ago, Cbreezy said:

Granted logic and predictability have long gone out of the window with this trilogy, I legit could see her dropping the visual component (for everything) in conjunction with the launch of Act III. Thus tying everything together, ending the chaos, and making it the one Act to truly benefit from having visuals out of the gate (which will dub as "promo" in place of her doing anything conventional). The drawback is that Acts I and II will, visually speaking, have been the sacrificial lambs...but hey it is what it is at this point. 

 

IMO she's used up the goodwill and stunt-ery on Acts I and II with the whole "no visuals" thing. Even from a marketing perspective, it's no longer the flex she thinks it is. I'm very dialed into the reality that Bey is not above stunt marketing and has, in fact, very actively embraced it for the last decade plus. From the surprise drop to the visual album to the genre experimenting. There's always an angle, a story, a (for the lack of a better word)...gimmick. It's worked well, but as we even saw with BIK (which is exceptional and ironically her best visual to date iMO), there comes a point when the audience gets tired of the same marketing schtick. Especially from someone who has the fortunate/unfortunate rep of always having to innovate every time.

 

That plus the fact that the GP has diminishing attention spans plus the Hive's frustrations pluuuuus the fact Act III is likely another left genre (which comes with the risk of polarizing), I can't see her chancing another visual-less release unless she's looking to flop. CC has done well but it wasn't Rennie from a momentum perspective, so there has to be a fresh stunt (outside of just another genre switch) for Act III and I really think it will be finally giving the visuals and making everything make sense (holistically).

 

Sidebar: Pls spare me the "she doesn't care about sales. She's a saboteur!" spiel. Because her flogging those Beyince vinyls to snatch high first week sales says otherwise and makes abundantly clear that she and her label care about her commercial performance. 2000%.

This whole thing, in a bizarre way, just reminds that as much as her perfectionist nature is legit and baked into her brand, the reality is that ish can and has gone left and forced her to "figure it out" as best she can. IMO, the following have all gone awry (against the backdrop of the music doing well) and impacted where we are now:

 

* The Visual Itself: she wasn't satisfied, bunch of reshoots, and potential reconfiguration of the entire concept.

 

* Streamer Push Back: I also believe the streamer reluctance tea (as they largely have pulled back on splashy/costly music partnerships. That AMC model she and Taylor did is becoming way more attractive/lucrative to stars who otherwise would have got big streaming checks around Homecoming time e.g. BTS did an AMC film, Usher doing something similar now off the back of his resurgence).

 

* Injury: We know she got the surgery just before the tour, but she had been shooting videos before that. Assuming she had been managing to get by, I can imagine that would have affected her ability for things like choreo. A posey-posey, choreo-starved visual for a Dance album would have got her dragged and may actually contribute to her (alleged) dissatisfaction. That and her aesthetic (another day, another convo). Let's just say our girl looks more agile and Beyonce-esque now than she did in 2022 when shooting.

 

* The Sphere Fell Through: We shouldn't undercut how one piece of the puzzle f**king up can have a domino effect on other ish. Assuming she really was teasing a residency with the Super Bowl commercial, it's safe to say, she would have launched it this Summer (in alignment with her kids' schedule). That changing easily could have thrown the entire CC era off its axis (behind the scenes). Her only other live output would be a stadium tour and we know she's a summer babe. Stadium dates are booked months, sometimes up to a year in advance. So, the Sphere falling through would automatically fling a stadium tour or even a residency elsewhere immediately into summer 2025 territory.

 

This was way longer than intended lol, but I just find this current phase of her career so intriguing. IMO, this chapter of hers is way more layered and complex than the info she's given us or what we may assume at times.

We also know there was meant to be a Summer Renaissance EP drop this summer with some live versions of Rennie songs and uptempo versions of CC songs inc. a video for Bodyguard. This might have been an EP designed to re-ignite Bey's demand in the lead up to a Sphere ticket release, which ultimately never happened. There was also the drama with The Dream behind the scenes, which she has navigated wisely by laying low I think as it all pans out (it's unfair on her ofc, but seeing how the Dr Luke fiasco has stifled KP6 this was the right approach).

Frankie Beverly has passed away.

 

Frankie wrote and performed the classic "Before I Let Go" which Bey of course went on to cover.

 

He talked about Beyoncé covering the song here: https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/frankie-beverly-beyonce-homecoming-8508606/

Edited September 11, 20241 yr by Burn

R.I.P. to Mr. Beverly. Before I Let Go will always be a classic.

 

I love the GQ interview btw. It low-key confirmed some things for me.

A video for Bodyguard and nothing for her previous singles? 

 

I don't know, that rumor seemed quite odd.

 

Quote

You've worked on several Beyoncé albums and produced her solo debut single, 2002's "Work It Out." What's it been like to see her evolve over the years?

So happy for her. And I'm so grateful to be a part of her story and her journey and her trajectory. We've had a lot of fun. Get ready, though. Just get ready. 

Get ready for more? What?

Just get ready.

What?!!!

Just get ready.

 

8 minutes ago, dnboy1 said:

 

 

Really hope this is hinting at music for Mufasa this year.

 

I know some hive don't want The Gift 2 but I'd love it. New music is always a win. And it's not like TG2 will stop act iii coming. We can hopefully have both.

1 minute ago, Burn said:

Really hope this is hinting at music for Mufasa this year.

 

I know some hive don't want The Gift 2 but I'd love it. New music is always a win. And it's not like TG2 will stop act iii coming. We can hopefully have both.

Yeah my mind immediately went to that! 

6 minutes ago, Burn said:

Really hope this is hinting at music for Mufasa this year.

 

I know some hive don't want The Gift 2 but I'd love it. New music is always a win. And it's not like TG2 will stop act iii coming. We can hopefully have both.

I actually love THE GIFT just as much as I love EVERYTHING IS LOVE, but that doesn't mean I want a sequel to either 

 

Her doing another compilation type album would be a huge distraction for this "trilogy act" imo. She should do a cute little song or two/maybe with Blue (?) but that's about it. 

Edited September 11, 20241 yr by Brikenbur

Gift 2 = 5 year old Gift 1 rejects. She doesn't sing anymore. She takes old songs that she recorded years ago and releases them like new. I saw a viral tweet making fun of that fact that she's always seen with a cigar in promo pics and that's why she's a tenor. She needs to put that **** down she will ruin her voice like all these other smoke addicts. How do you say you're putting your health first by cutting meat but inhale burning smoke into your lungs? 

The dissertations in here....

 

I genuinely don't think she's smoking like that. She just thinks it looks cool 

3 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

I genuinely don't think she's smoking like that. She just thinks it looks cool 

Neither is she drinking heavily like that....if she was that voice would have been shot.