like what an insult to your own career by lying and saying visuals can just be a "distraction"..? Ma'am YOU teased a trailer for visuals, save us the word salad and just say you werent happy and plans changed. 

27 minutes ago, RedOne said:

So the visuals weren't a distraction from the quality of the the music for ST, Lemonade and BIK, but they are now? And what was the "I'm That Girl (Official Teaser)" if not a teaser for the visuals that were supposed to be released? Idk, it just seems like the visuals did not go as planned, she scrapped/postponed them and then came up with an artsy excuse after the fact.

i think it's pretty clear (from everything that has happened/that we know of) that she didn't like the visuals so they were re-edited as backdrops for the tour.

 

now WHY she won't give us the film in any digital/physical form months after the world-wide screenings.. idk someone needs to investigate and force her team to drop this 

1 hour ago, QueenB said:

 

This lady is just weird at this point and this interview is just a sirdavis plug 

you're not yet aware that she only shows up in magazines (and gives "interviews") when promoting one of her commercial products?

 

also even if you cut out all the SIrDavis copy, you'd still be left with a pretty juicy interview that offers a lot of insight into her thought process, which as a fan should be super valuable.

and it should be no surprise but I'm totally on her side on this one, for this quote.

 

what she did by not releasing visuals was an extension of what she did by releasing visuals in 2013 with BEYONCÉ: it reset people's focus and allowed them to appreciate the work as a full body of music, not a collection of singles or in this case, videos.

 

 

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Damn, the visuals really are scrapped...

2 minutes ago, aaron511 said:

Damn, the visuals really are scrapped...

I don't think so, she teased them again with CC, and has continued filming stuff

2024: The music is enough. The fans from all over the world became the visual.

 

2028: My presence is enough. The fans can enjoy my entire discography. 

 

personally what i think she meant by that comment was her not making the visuals an "event" anymore bc shes like been there, done that.

Thiller is the phenomenon that it is today thanks to the groundbreaking visuals it is just a medium that gives the music a whole new life and perspective

What is a smiler?

 

35 minutes ago, RedOne said:

Good photoshoot (side eyeing the whiskey glass though) and interview. Really gives an insight into her thought process.

 

"The music needed space to breathe on its own. Sometimes a visual can be a distraction from the quality of the voice and the music. The years of hard work and detail put into an album that takes over four years! The music is enough."

 

So the visuals weren't a distraction from the quality of the the music for ST, Lemonade and BIK, but they are now? And what was the "I'm That Girl (Official Teaser)" if not a teaser for the visuals that were supposed to be released? Idk, it just seems like the visuals did not go as planned, she scrapped/postponed them and then came up with an artsy excuse after the fact.

 

"I had little boundaries, and said yes to everything. But I've paid my dues a hundred times over. I have worked harder than anyone I know. And now I work smarter. In the end, the biggest reward is personal joy."

 

She's mentioned this before, but she reiterated again that she has worked harder than anyone and paid her dues and now she "works smarter" aka what brings in the most profit. Hence all the commercials and her various business ventures and lack of performances, behind the scenes etc. for the fans. So no matter how much we complain or beg her, that's how she operates now.

Her visuals were a distraction especially for BIK. After 2 albums of groundbreaking visuals and then a visual film that literally did nothing yeah the world became desensitized to visuals at this point. 

Just now, Mr.X said:

What is a smiler?

 

Not too much on Miley. She's one of the only other pop stars who can actually sing her ass off. Her 'Plastic Hearts' album is vocal perfection. Her cover of 'Maybe' by Janis Joplin is the best version I have ever heard. 

Just now, DUA LIPA said:

i think it's pretty clear (from everything that has happened/that we know of) that she didn't like the visuals so they were re-edited as backdrops for the tour.

 

now WHY she won't give us the film in any digital/physical form months after the world-wide screenings.. idk someone needs to investigate and force her team to drop this 

Like @Kh-Loud has mentioned and it was what I was thinking as well that it's about the tour demand. She thinks if she just posts the whole concert on streaming it will diminish the exclusivity and rarity of her performances these days and decrease the demand for the tickets for her next tour that I assume is coming in 2025. 

1 minute ago, mons†er said:

Not too much on Miley. She's one of the only other pop stars who can actually sing her ass off. Her 'Plastic Hearts' album is vocal perfection. Her cover of 'Maybe' by Janis Joplin is the best version I have ever heard. 

Oh I had no idea Miley's fans were the Smilers lol Thanks for letting me know.

 

Miley is fine. She is a great singer for sure but I dont much care for her as a popstar or artist to be honest.

2 minutes ago, Mr.X said:

Oh I had no idea Miley's fans were the Smilers lol Thanks for letting me know.

 

Miley is fine. She is a great singer for sure but I dont much care for her as a popstar or artist to be honest.

I can understand that lol especially with how her career has played out. But musically she's really talented. I would recommend listening to 'PH' if you actually want to know Miley outside of her pop music persona.  I guarantee you that was the album that made Beyonce get into Miley and reach out to rework 'Jolene' since it was originally Miley's song. 

7 minutes ago, mons†er said:

Her visuals were a distraction especially for BIK. After 2 albums of groundbreaking visuals and then a visual film that literally did nothing yeah the world became desensitized to visuals at this point. 

I kinda agree that BIK (even though great) did not have the same impact as her other visual albums. But if it's her thought process as well then scaling it back to 1-2 great music videos would've been better than giving nothing for 2 whole albums and pretending like this was your grand plan from the beginning.

4 minutes ago, mons†er said:

 I guarantee you that was the album that made Beyonce get into Miley and reach out to rework 'Jolene' since it was originally Miley's song. 

Just now, ShouldersSideways said:

I meant 'II MOST WANTED'  (Morning cannabis and coffee) 

 

1 minute ago, RedOne said:

I kinda agree that BIK (even though great) did not have the same impact as her other visual albums. But if it's her thought process as well then scaling it back to 1-2 great music videos would've been better than giving nothing for 2 whole albums and pretending like this was your grand plan from the beginning.

She's a Virgo, it's kind of on brand for her.

these pics... 😍 how did she get even finer in her 40s than ever before? she really is aging like fine wine whiskey

Yeah she looks amazinggggg, better than ever but that ChatGPT ass "interview" chile The canned responses do nothing for me. They don't sound like her (or anyone)

I'll forgive this hag in a heart beat if she release a 90s hip hop/Rnb inspired album for ACT III. To be honest, I don't even care for the visuals, I just want the ******* concert film so that I can be reminded of my time seeing her ass live…. Ugh I hate her 

Ngl she's still such a genius 

 

Like who on EARTH or any artist this day and age can say so MUCH and so LITTLE and still leave people with wanting MORE? 
 

I absolutely love the marketing of it all, but it's just so Beyoncé. I prefer this over what Taylor does (although it's admirable to an extent). Still though, I like this lowkey Beyoncé at times. Makes me feel like she's indie lmao!

27 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

Yeah she looks amazinggggg, better than ever but that ChatGPT ass "interview" chile The canned responses do nothing for me. They don't sound like her (or anyone)

they absolutely sound like her though.

 

her answers in this interview just are (and it was specified before they even begun) done over e-mail so clearly considered and edited instead of off-the-cuff.

 

I think the bit about why she sings is one of the most beautiful quotes we've gotten from her in a while, and really shows what kind of artist she is and why. Does it really do nothing to you to hear how she feels about singing, how it feels in her body and soul, and why she does it and when? As a fan this is rich information, I think.

 

But also, she's never been a flexible, chatty interviewee. Even at the height of her interviews in the mid-2000s she would sit in her best posture, smiling and sharing stories that were clearly brought to be told. And the most personal she got was often coy and evasive.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

Yeah she looks amazinggggg, better than ever but that ChatGPT ass "interview" chile The canned responses do nothing for me. They don't sound like her (or anyone)

I disagree, I think it is the best interview she's given in years. I'm referring to the parts in which she spoke about the "Cowboy Carter" album title, the album's creative process, why 4 is a classic in her discography, and finally the way she feels about her voice.

Theres a lot to unpack in this interview

basically confirms what we all knew though 

9 minutes ago, cuteboyzay said:

Ngl she's still such a genius 

 

Like who on EARTH or any artist this day and age can say so MUCH and so LITTLE and still leave people with wanting MORE? 
 

I absolutely love the marketing of it all, but it's just so Beyoncé. I prefer this over what Taylor does (although it's admirable to an extent). Still though, I like this lowkey Beyoncé at times. Makes me feel like she's indie lmao!

this!

 

she's kind of done the impossible and changed from being one of the most famous, commercial, and at times "over-exposed" (remember when this word was one of her haters' fave terms in like 2009?) popstars on the planet into being somewhat of a very celebrated cult figure...a popstar whose work is increasingly very "iykyk" rather than music that is pushed and forced into your ears. I've always said there is a greater connection to music when you yourself choose it or find it and make your own emotional connections to it. The type of music you hear over and over in grocery stores may live on in the public's mind for much longer, but a cult classic will last in a way that Beyoncé seeks: with appreciation and impact rather than it simply being unavoidable to know.

 

and there's a point to be made that she can have both success and appreciation because the work is going to be appreciated if its good and successful, but I'm all for her prioritizes changing if that's what she wants. and I also think that withholding a lot is also what makes what she does do that much more important, which is a mainstay of luxury marketing. and as her work has increased in quality, it too becomes something of a luxury good.

It's also very iconic of her. Like, I think the only two other popstars who have done anything like this are Prince and Sade, both of which were never as outright commercial and pop-forward as Beyoncé was at her peak. It's a very interesting, career-defining move.