3 minutes ago, tachiwaka said:

the algorithm is algorithming today because

 

 

omg I saw a different video from them a few days ago but couldn't find it again  they're so good like it's uncanny 

5 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

the album wasn’t free so that automatically cancels this theory. She’s just weird but she remains a commercial artist (not a bad thing)

I never said she is not a commercial artist. I said releasing JUST music without videos (unusual in her last decade of musical releases) is not a commercially minded decision.

 

Do you think it was her belief launching and continuing an era without videos would result in more success?

Whether or not it is commercially available says nothing about the goal to not release videos as accompaniment. It's like saying having no employee in an art gallery to explain the art to customers is an attempt to sell more paintings. It's not. Having someone there is the attempt to sell more paintings. Having no one to explain the art would be to encourage customers intrinsically liking the paintings for what they are.

17 minutes ago, Otter said:

All the tours will see the light of day at some point 

12 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Honestly no. My bestie, who is not a fan, actually pointed out how its quite unfair to the people in Stockholm how little she gave them energy-wise compared to now. He sees some of the clips on TikTok and says the difference is crazy, so the wristbands are just another thing on top

It sounds more unfair to expect an artist to not improve during a tour, to not give her own hometown a bonus, to not have more energy for audiences who themselves have more energy AND if rumours are true, to not be able to heal and perform according to her own limits.

1 hour ago, BnPac said:

And this is one of Beyoncé's biggest problems. The reason that she hasn't soared much after Lemonade : she doesn't create contents specifically for fans anymore imo. 

 

FWT was not just her first stadium tour, it was the first female stadium tour in history. But there's no DVD of it. Nowhere to watch it.

She only went to two continents and tells people to watch it in their mind when a bunch of her fans didn't and couldn't go. 

 

That tour can not be defining, it can also not be remembered or revisited in 30 years down the line because there's no professional footage of it. People in the villages of Africa, Asia and non MJ stans know how iconic Bad tour was because they saw it on TV, on YTB, on DVD, on their bootleg's copies. 

 

As good as RTW is, it probably will not have footage so her defining tour will be TBE and live moments : Coachella and Glastonbury. 

It's always been my own theory that (because of how considered Beyoncé has proven to be in the 2010s), the reason FWT didn't come out was because she was also at the same time working on/planning Coachella, and foresaw that it could be a good moment/concert to release as well, and releasing them close might make either or both not have the same attention, impact and care from audiences. Being the first woman and first Black woman announced to headline the festival is big in its own right, as was what she was planning (and even if she switched the idea during her break, we don't know what exactly she was planning prior, and if it was also something of a similarly bold nature), plus it was to be her return to the stage, and what Beychella turned out to be said something different and new, whereas FWT was re-telling a story.

 

 

Edited September 26, 20232 yr by swissman

27 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Honestly no. My bestie, who is not a fan, actually pointed out how its quite unfair to the people in Stockholm how little she gave them energy-wise compared to now. He sees some of the clips on TikTok and says the difference is crazy, so the wristbands are just another thing on top

then stockholm shouldn't have just stood there. she gives back what she gets from the crowd.

The meltdowns  you all complain about the smallest things. 
 

If we get the visuals, the tour, then act 2, that would be insane tbh

27 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Honestly no. My bestie, who is not a fan, actually pointed out how its quite unfair to the people in Stockholm how little she gave them energy-wise compared to now. He sees some of the clips on TikTok and says the difference is crazy, so the wristbands are just another thing on top

yeah that’s another annoying thing she does, since FWT/OTR II she started treating Europe like rehearsals, we always get less energy, less choreo, less new songs and no surprise performers…

 

and she clearly doesn’t try to hide any of it which is just disrespectful atp especially when "always giving 100% everywhere" was part of the Beyoncé brand but oh well.. being organized used to be too 

2 hours ago, family.guy123 said:

I’m still trying to understand the logic behind only having the wristbands for the filmed show (allegedly). Does she think her fans are going to be happy watching a show that 90% of them didn’t get to see (but helped pay for)?

have you seen the trailer for miss neck's tour film? the wristbands highlight the scope, show how many thousands of people are in the audience. its because it looks good on camera.

I don’t get the notion that Europe doesn’t get treated right. Australia nor Brazil have seen her in over 10 years. Didn’t blue ivy debut in Europe? Barcelona was epic,  she added the DJ to the London shows, which celebs flew out too. All of them were amazing , including Paris. 
 

And frankly, energy aside, Stockholm still had one of the best shows. Full show seamlessly. 
 

Some of Taylor’s shows get surprise guests, others don’t. That’s pretty common in concerts.

 

And formation tour began in the US. I don’t recall anything different. 

Edited September 26, 20232 yr by sillycilla

16 minutes ago, swissman said:

FWT didn't come out was because she was also at the same time working on/planning Coachella, and foresaw that it could be a good moment/concert to release as well, and releasing them close together next might make either or both not have the same attention, impact and care from audiences.

 

 

someone with a brain, finally. this is literally the reason (+ the timing of the pregnancy)

16 minutes ago, Shelter said:

The meltdowns  you all complain about the smallest things. 
 

If we get the visuals, the tour, then act 2, that would be insane tbh

Lets start complaining about eachother. 
 

When you getting an avi I’m tired of seeing that blue letter S 

 

There's always a perfect reason for Beyoncé not doing something in particular that only apparently people with brains here know about.

 

Anyway that reason doesn't cut for my non-brain-having self. The more contents the better. 2 or 3 years between a tour and some live performance is OK. FWT was over in October 2016 and Homecoming came out in 2019.

Roseland 2011, Glastonbury 2011 and MCSWT in 2013. Neither took anything away from one another. 

 

It was not even a complaint on my part tbh. 

 

 

I don’t see how Beyoncé easily releasing FWT concert which ended in 2016 would coincide with homecoming; released in 2019?  It didn’t need behind the scenes or any added things, just straight up concert. And editing didn’t have to be by her, only approved. 

Edited September 26, 20232 yr by sillycilla

Omg, I just remembered FWT was only 6 months long, April - Oct. And the RWT is shaping up to be the same. It really is the end.  

Edited September 26, 20232 yr by sillycilla

1 minute ago, sillycilla said:

I don’t see how Beyoncé easily releasing FWT concert which ended in 2016 would coincide with homecoming; released in 2019?  It didn’t need behind the scenes or any added things, just straight up concert. And editing didn’t have to be by her, only approved. 

because a lot of elements from FWT were recycled in homecoming, down to the runway. she clearly preferred the homecoming version of her show, so that's the one she chose to put out. same goes for Revel & MCSWT.

23 minutes ago, yonsé said:

have you seen the trailer for miss neck's tour film? the wristbands highlight the scope, show how many thousands of people are in the audience. its because it looks good on camera.

I understand it looks good on camera. Know where else it looks good? In person. So why’d she only have them for one city? To mislead non-patrons into thinking that her concert movies are reflective of the actual show they’d get if they pay to see her? Cause that’s she’s doing. 

y'all say y'all be watching all her shows but don't realize that for a minute there she was just taking bits and pieces from her shows and using them in other shows. 

 

that Revel show was recycled at the super bowl 2013, the mrs. carter show, and eventually OTR i. when she got coachella, she took FWT, deconstructed it, and then rearranged all the songs for Homecoming, and then eventually OTR ii.

 

that's also part of why RWT is so exciting. it's the first time she's overhauled her arrangements in years.

8 minutes ago, yonsé said:

because a lot of elements from FWT were recycled in homecoming, down to the runway. she clearly preferred the homecoming version of her show, so that's the one she chose to put out. same goes for Revel & MCSWT.

Sometimes I only want to watch the concert . I love the behind the scenes content in homecoming and story but it does tend to take you out of the performance. 

 

FWT would have been a great contrast. Another artist released a music documentary and concert film within the same year. No one had an issue.

Edited September 26, 20232 yr by sillycilla

4 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

I understand it looks good on camera. Know where else it looks good? In person. So why’d she only have them for one city? To mislead non-patrons into thinking that her concert movies are reflective of the actual show they’d get if they pay to see her? Cause that’s she’s doing. 

because they are very expensive and a hassle to program/recycle.

Just now, sillycilla said:

Another artist released a music documentary and concert film within the same year. No one had an issue.

ok? well take that up with Beyonce mama, it was her decision.

Now now y'all. Not again

 

1 minute ago, yonsé said:

ok? well take that up with Beyonce mama, it was her decision.

I’m just responding to your post LOL

 

 

1 hour ago, Otter said:

All the tours will see the light of day at some point 

unless you’re stealing them out of the vault yourself it’s just not realistic

5 minutes ago, yonsé said:

because they are very expensive and a hassle to program/recycle.

She can afford it. Other artists seem to manage just fine. 
 

But whatever, can’t wait to watch the show that will look nothing like the one I attended!