45 minutes ago, Monday Night Messiah said:

People will attack you, but unfortunately, I agree with you. It's funny how when you look back, the lyrics from her Destiny's Child albums and her first four solo albums are more lyrically mature than the ones she puts out now.  I mean, I enjoy the songs, don't get me wrong, but shoutouts, references, swearing aren't substitutes for great lyrics. Taylor Swift has the same problem.

She gave us an album full of uptempos that we’d been begging for for a decade, what do you expect? Renaissance has great lyrics for the the type of record that it is.

 

Lemonade and The Gift were her most lyrical works.

Glad its not just me. 

 

 

Beyonce there is some people in your circle that are telling you they are Hive, and they’re talking against your future. Christina Aguilera-

She does have some cringy innuendos and phrases that were either an attempt to relate with the younger generation/trends or were just off color all together. More so on Lem and ST though, Ren is more campy/tongue in cheek. Im looking at Bow Down, Flawless (original + remix), 7/11, Sorry, and Savage. These all aged like milk. 

 

Now her use of innuendos in Kitty Kat for example… that shits bricks on each and every one of those songs.

 

i mean i don’t know why y'all expect Pulitzer price level lyrics on a dance album about clubbing, dicks and ass  

 

BUT it’s sure that her still trying to make swag/swaggy and slay happen in big 2023 certainly doesn’t help her back catalogue streams. Listening to her use these words just has this "old person thinks this is what young people sound like" vibe which sure we find cute or endearing but trust me the GP just finds it corny  songs like Sorry are just unlistenable these days due to that and i used to LOVE sorry….

 

Another thing that doesn’t help is the fact that her features are complete ass. You got ******* Shining and Rih got Wild Thoughts lmaoo ? i know that had her Heated.mp3. Top Off ? at your big age ?  Del Restroom ? sure i like the song but nobody, certainly not Travis Scott fans, wants to hear that lol… Mi Gente ? the bars downstairs play Mi Gente 24/7 and i’ve never heard them touch that awful remix once. Savage ? aged like milk the second it came out. All those songs made 0 noise & they aren’t good either. If she was a good remix hopper à la Rihanna at least they would add something to her repertoire or help keep her fresh in the GP’s mind but all of these do the opposite….

I saw Renaissance last week and I ascended. It's probably the pinnacle of her performing career. The visuals, the voice, the outfits, the dancing (although she used to be more into it in the past tours, but fair play, she's smart about it now and knows how to leave the audience wanting more) are all top notch. The ballroom dancing in the last section with all the dancers is mind blowing. The Queen Mother Madonna display on the huge screen is so respectful and the stadium blew up with the Vogue Queens remix of Break My Soul. I know I'm not saying anything new but it's obvious this is a very special time for Beyoncé and she acknowledges it as such too. The woman was born to perform in a Michael Jackson or Tina Turner-esque way and clearly loves it. She was exceptionally grateful and warm to her audience as well.

Edited September 21, 20232 yr by Capris Groove

3 hours ago, ICLDXU4HS said:

She gave us an album full of uptempos that we’d been begging for for a decade, what do you expect? Renaissance has great lyrics for the the type of record that it is.

 

Lemonade and The Gift were her most lyrical works.

 

 

3 hours ago, Monday Night Messiah said:

People will attack you, but unfortunately, I agree with you. It's funny how when you look back, the lyrics from her Destiny's Child albums and her first four solo albums are more lyrically mature than the ones she puts out now.  I mean, I enjoy the songs, don't get me wrong, but shoutouts, references, swearing aren't substitutes for great lyrics. Taylor Swift has the same problem.

 

Nnnn, I hate both of these takes lol

 

1. Firstly, up tempo does not equal bad lyrics or of vapid content. So it should never be used as a scapegoat if someone is complaining about lyrical content. 

 

2. Her writing overall is much deeper now imo, much more lyrically layered and interesting compared to her DC-DIL days.

 

Something like the second verse in Cozy wipes the the floor with much of her early career where everything was very literal, lacking a bit in a district character. 

 

But I agree that her pop/hook writing during the commercial years was a bit more fulfilling & tighter. And there are plenty of "pop" songs on Ren which are just fine in regards to writing without really excelling like she would have in the past Summer Ren/Cuff It/BMS are all kind of basic. Whereas songs like Halo/CIL/SL are ultra tight, no awkward lyrics and just sat right on first listen. To me, the best writing on the "pop" Ren songs is Heated. Immaculate.

 

That being said I absolutely agree that she has room to evolve, and there's so much she clearly wants to say ,(which is why she codes it in her visuals) but she doesn't have the capacity to weave it into her song writing as clearly. And I want to hear about more then just Jays dick or her loving herself. 

 

Edited September 21, 20232 yr by Otter

2 hours ago, Devin said:

Glad its not just me. 

 

 

The best part is “this is how I moo oo oo oo oove” which she gave us, but yeah, we wanted that other part too. 
 

I‘m also still mad she doesn’t do the “Versace, Bottega, Prada, Balenciaga” part in Summer Rennie. 
 

19 minutes ago, Otter said:

To me, the best writing on the "pop" Ren songs is Heated. Immaculate.

I’m That Girl and Cozy are my favorite moments lyrically. 

That fleahive member really needs to disappear. Just atrocious. How you compare XTINA to beyonce in 2023....XTINA literally cant move or sing anymore. Like just say you are a hater and keep it moving

51 minutes ago, Kingdom said:

That fleahive member really needs to disappear. Just atrocious. How you compare XTINA to beyonce in 2023....XTINA literally cant move or sing anymore. Like just say you are a hater and keep it moving

You clearly can’t read because where in my post did I say any of that? 

My least favorite part about local news is when Beyoncé’s tour is the topic and they just have to say “you don’t wanna mess with the beyhive!” At least the news anchor pronounced it bee instead of bay. 

Cozy is a brilliant song. It could have been an anthem if handled properly but alas..

5 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

i mean i don’t know why y'all expect Pulitzer prize level lyrics on a dance album about clubbing, dicks and ass  

 

Another thing that doesn’t help is the fact that her features are complete ass. You got ******* Shining and Rih got Wild Thoughts lmaoo ? i know that had her Heated.mp3. Top Off ? at your big age ?  Del Restroom ? sure i like the song but nobody, certainly not Travis Scott fans, wants to hear that lol…

It's 8:30 AM and I'm already cackling

2 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Cozy is a brilliant song. It could have been an anthem if handled properly but alas..

I've loved it since release but after the tour started it's become top3 for me. Everytime I go out I request this to the dj. The hand sign she does live during the second chorus has become like an inside thing I do with my friends lol. Really what an amazing track. 

 

I really wonder how the faster version Honey talked about sounds ahh

I don’t have an issue with any of the lyrics on ren it all fits within the context of the album. However that being said the only one that does make my eye socket pop out is “drop it like a thotty”. It ruins a song that I relate to on so many levels. It won’t age well bc of that imo.  

and we back OUTSIDE 

 

 

2 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

I've loved it since release but after the tour started it's become top3 for me. Everytime I go out I request this to the dj. The hand sign she does live during the second chorus has become like an inside thing I do with my friends lol. Really what an amazing track. 

 

I really wonder how the faster version Honey talked about sounds ahh

Yes, it was one of the songs I instantly took too. I was too enamored with AS at the time however cozy would have been an amazing single after cuff it, with a special video release. Ugh the possibilities were endless. “Comfortable in my skin, cozy with who I am” was right in their hands for something major culturally. And you are right the tour highlights how amazing it is even more.
 

I would love to hear what the faster version is like. 

8 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

It's 8:30 AM and I'm already cackling

all of us since july 2022 

 

 

 

https://x.com/lovingontop/status/1703202671186829694?s=46&t=DBEzweI3pkN0q0I7VG8vbQ
 

SMH. Considering 2010’s had self titled and lemonade, this is another example of fumbling the bag. I will never understand Parkwood/Bey.  She basically had no presence to the GP musically. And it possibly explains why her back catalog lost momentum.
 

I love perfect duet, but it being one of her most steamed songs is annoying.

Edited September 21, 20232 yr by sillycilla

6 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

I've loved it since release but after the tour started it's become top3 for me. Everytime I go out I request this to the dj. The hand sign she does live during the second chorus has become like an inside thing I do with my friends lol. Really what an amazing track. 

 

I really wonder how the faster version Honey talked about sounds ahh

imagine the alternative universe in which the intro, the added bass, drums & the horns on the second chorus are part of the studio version 

 

It’s fine as long as she’s tours she’ll always be the moment.

Sure her recurrent streams aren’t the greatest but she’s doing far better than most and the gap widening as music sales plummet. 

If her next album comes out in less than 6 years she’ll have two charting on BB (probably) 

 

Ok I understand that Beyoncé is a top touring artist but has anyone thought to realize that A LOT of artists right now are experiencing a touring boom since Covid? How will touring look like for her six years from now, if 1) her recurrents aren’t being revisited and 2) she doesn’t release singles?  It’s just not going to sustain otherwise.
 

 

Edited September 21, 20232 yr by sillycilla

43 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Yes, it was one of the songs I instantly took too. I was too enamored with AS at the time however cozy would have been an amazing single after cuff it, with a special video release. Ugh the possibilities were endless. “Comfortable in my skin, cozy with who I am” was right in their hands for something major culturally. And you are right the tour highlights how amazing it is even more.
 

I would love to hear what the faster version is like. 

It does take someone braindead to not release Cozy + a MV during a time where gay/trans rights are being attacked and taken away

 It coulve been an easy way to raise awareness, gain respect, be of use to society, get a hit that means something and represents the album well, and once again... nothing

Edited September 21, 20232 yr by Kristie Kuwa

The majority of the answers being Irreplaceable and Single Ladies but everything is fine 

1 minute ago, Blue Rose said:

The majority of the answers being Irreplaceable and Single Ladies but everything is fine