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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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35 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

I am every woman, it’s all in me! First, I personally find them to be legends. Second, not everyone else will think of them that way. Third, let me clock your delusional backside with RECEIPTS

 

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Madonna 

 

Madonna is currently busy preparing for her The Celebration Tour, which is slated to begin in mid-October in London. As the pop icon continues rehearsing for one of the most highly-anticipated tours in recent memory, one of her recent singles is still performing well on the charts, and it is quickly catching up to some of her biggest hits.”
 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2023/09/18/madonnas-new-single-ties-vogue-as-fans-keep-it-charting/amp/

 

Luther

 

”R&B Giant Luther Vandross”

 

https://www.npr.org/2005/07/01/4727263/r-b-giant-luther-vandross-dies-at-54

 

Diana 

 

Diana Ross, a true musical and cultural icon who has been gracing the Billboard charts for 60 years, lit up Radio City Music Hall with her ineffable presence on Thursday (July 29).”

 

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/diana-ross-radio-city-concert-nyc-1235365243/amp/

 

Tina

 

“Tina Turner, the music superstar whose career spanned five decades, has died at 83 years old. Her death was confirmed to CBS News by her spokesperson, Bernard Doherty, on Wednesday afternoon.”


https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/tina-turner-dead-83/

 

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And while we can all shade Taylor’s (lack) of talent, the reality is the GP actually knows her music and can sing the lyrics. Meanwhile we’ve been stuck with “baby I can see your halo” for over a decade. She needs to promote her music, otherwise she will fade into obscurity the moment she stops touring since clearly people are not streaming her music like her contemporaries 

 

 

No you have been stuck with "baby i can see you halo". There are people that sing LOVE ON TOP, DRUNK IN LOVE etc loudly and proudly. As i said, just cause some of the GP (white people to be exact) are stuck on halo does not represent the EVERYONE. Lets stop with that pls. 

 

Also, i could easily post 5 separate articles where those people you mentioned were referred to as legends..but  with a simple google search you will find that yourself.

 

If you don't like how beyonce does her thing, so stan someone else, taylor is looking for more people to sing off-key with her. Do that and stop questioning beyonce legendary status.

40 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

 

And while we can all shade Taylor’s (lack) of talent, the reality is the GP actually knows her music and can sing the lyrics. Meanwhile we’ve been stuck with “baby I can see your halo” for over a decade. She needs to promote her music, otherwise she will fade into obscurity the moment she stops touring since clearly people are not streaming her music like her contemporaries 

 

 

Sadly, I agree and this has crossed my mind. There is a point in my life where I thought that she would be talked about beyond her time on earth the way Michael Jackson or Elvis are. But the way that she has maneuvered her career the past few years has ruined her chances at being remembered forever. It’s like she doesn’t want to be remembered anymore. Like if she passed at 90 years old would they even dedicate the main part of the Grammys death tribute to her at this point? She might as well get a 2 second picture like the forgotten drum and bass players from the 1950s. I think she will always be a black legend but she will quickly lose steam world wide when she actually retires. 

4 hours ago, sillycilla said:

https://x.com/chartdata/status/1704597990076232171?s=46&t=DBEzweI3pkN0q0I7VG8vbQ
 

Tragique! Beyoncé is number #43, I don’t care what the bootlickers say.  Eminem, lame ass KANYE, Shakira, Nicki, Rihanna(hasn’t even had an album out in 7 years),  daddy yankee, all ahead of her. :gaycat6:
 

Katy is the most embarrassing to me tbh. The rest makes sense. Everyone calls her a flop and that she fell off but she stay ahead of bey in every category besides billboard charts which feel meaningless nowadays 

 

but let me listen to atrl user kingdom educate me about withholding your music not affecting your legacy 

 

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7 minutes ago, Fleahive said:

Sadly, I agree and this has crossed my mind. There is a point in my life where I thought that she would be talked about beyond her time on earth the way Michael Jackson or Elvis are. But the way that she has maneuvered her career the past few years has ruined her chances at being remembered forever. It’s like she doesn’t want to be remembered anymore. Like if she passed at 90 years old would they even dedicate the main part of the Grammys death tribute to her at this point? She might as well get a 2 second picture like the forgotten drum and bass players from the 1950s. I think she will always be a black legend but she will quickly lose steam world wide when she actually retires. 

I was sort of with you in the first two sentences but the rest of the paragraph went left :clownny:

5 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

I was sort of with you in the first two sentences but the rest of the paragraph went left :clownny:

That seems to be a recurring pattern with them

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4 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

If she were 55 years old, I wouldnt say anything. But seeing how shes still more than capable, yet behind ******* Peso Pluma and KHALID is not only a disgrace, its embarrassing.

The fact a certain Lady is in front of her is just the icing on the cake.

 

Bey is truly so forgotten musically speaking, its quite sad

 

Arrogance and being complacent - the deadly curses of Bey

Drag me but I’ve thought deep about Beyoncés popularity being timed perfectly due to opportunities given. Her debut was a SMASH no doubt. Her sophomore era was a SMASH no doubt. These were both organic moments. I think all the grand opportunities after those two eras really cemented her fame. If she didn’t get these opportunities at the right time then she may have fell off like her peers. What opportunities?

 

1. The first black president of the United States, asking her to sing at his first dance. The whole country watched it. It’s not a coincidence that single ladies slowly climb the charts to number one around this time. 2. Performing at Oprah‘s final show. Sure run the world flopped on the charts but the whole world knows the song probably because of that episode that everyone watched.

3. Michelle Obama speaking so highly about Beyoncé during out the entire presidency, and asking her to sing the national anthem during Obamas reelection. The whole country watched. 4. Being asked to perform the Super Bowl halftime show the year after Madonna. I believe this is why self-titled smashed so hard. If she never performed at the Super Bowl, but still surprised, dropped her album I believe it wouldn’t have done so well. 5. Returning for the 50th halftime show as a surprise guest and announcing her tour immediately after. I believe this performance + tour announcement + cheating scandal is wild, lemonade, debuted so high despite not being on streaming platforms. The whole country was thinking about her at the time of the release of the album, the same way with self titled. Performing for Hillary Clinton in 2016 also gave her more visibility. Beyoncés career stopped putting focus on sales after I am Sasha fierce and put all the focus in big performance opportunities and releasing a project not too long after that. Renaissance was her first album dropped without a stunt or big event months prior and showed her true numbers. And those numbers weren’t bad at all. But those numbers will continue to dwindle if she stops trying altogether. Press is important. PR is important. 

Edited by Fleahive

40 minutes ago, Shone Ai said:

 

Thots and prayers to the KC attendees 🙂

living basically my whole life in OKC prepared me for this moment :giraffe:

I’d also like to add that yesterday, a song by an artist artist named benson boom showed up on my Spotify shuffle. I went to his account and saw he had 14 million listeners and his top song had more streams than BREAK MY SOUL. The song came out last year. I highly doubt he charted. Streaming has changed so much about music. You could make a hit song and be completely nameless. 

yall complaining abt the same **** when yall know she's not gonna change her self sabotaging ways

 

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Just wanna point out that USA Today removed the listing for being a Beyoncé reporter, you think they realized there would be nothing to report on?

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43 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

 

but let me listen to atrl user kingdom educate me about withholding your music not affecting your legacy 

 

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And look at the person that answered that question....and get back to me. a

5 minutes ago, QueenB said:

Just wanna point out that USA Today removed the listing for being a Beyoncé reporter, you think they realized there would be nothing to report on?

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Or maybe they already hired someone?

 

Anyways I always thought it was an odd post, felt like it came as an afterthought considering..

18 minutes ago, Fleahive said:

I’d also like to add that yesterday, a song by an artist artist named benson boom showed up on my Spotify shuffle. I went to his account and saw he had 14 million listeners and his top song had more streams than BREAK MY SOUL. The song came out last year. I highly doubt he charted. Streaming has changed so much about music. You could make a hit song and be completely nameless. 

This is why there are people with billions of streams that no one cares to pay them real money to see them perform live...(which is more important)

12 minutes ago, HausofArtpopII said:

yall complaining abt the same **** when yall know she's not gonna change her self sabotaging ways

 

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Bey has turned us into a masochist base. 

5 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Bey has turned us into a masochist base. 

Why are you using Olivia Rodrigo vocabulary in this base?

My biggest concern for Bey isn't even just that her recurrents are bad. If that was always the case it would be whatever and just unfortunate reality. It is the fact that she used to be the ****** LEADER of EVERYONEEEEEE on Spotify when it came to recurrents. 4 used to be outstreaming LOUD, Teenage Dream, The Fame Monster etc.  Halo was MILES above other pop girls recurrent streams in daily, and I mean it literally used to chart on Global Spotify in 2018 for no reason (yes not just V'Day which it don't even re-enter for now) doing +1M :rip: She was basically Taylor before Taylor. Somehow she has seen a massive decline in back catalog relevance and that is worrying asf.

Yvette's problems are not my problems.

 

#ReleaseTheStress #ForgetTheRest

4 hours ago, sillycilla said:

https://x.com/chartdata/status/1704597990076232171?s=46&t=DBEzweI3pkN0q0I7VG8vbQ
 

Tragique! Beyoncé is number #43, I don’t care what the bootlickers say.  Eminem, lame ass KANYE, Shakira, Nicki, Rihanna(hasn’t even had an album out in 7 years),  daddy yankee, all ahead of her. :gaycat6:
 

 

4 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

her barely being higher than people who have been dead since the Bush administration :rip:

 

4 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

If she were 55 years old, I wouldnt say anything. But seeing how shes still more than capable, yet behind ******* Peso Pluma and KHALID is not only a disgrace, its embarrassing.

The fact a certain Lady is in front of her is just the icing on the cake.

 

Bey is truly so forgotten musically speaking, its quite sad

 

Arrogance and being complacent - the deadly curses of Bey

Is it really that serious when Ed Sheeran, who is #5 in that list, had an album just a few months ago that completely bombed? Yet he has 20 million more listeners than her.

13 minutes ago, Machete said:

My biggest concern for Bey isn't even just that her recurrents are bad. If that was always the case it would be whatever and just unfortunate reality. It is the fact that she used to be the ****** LEADER of EVERYONEEEEEE on Spotify when it came to recurrents. 4 used to be outstreaming LOUD, Teenage Dream, The Fame Monster etc.  Halo was MILES above other pop girls recurrent streams in daily, and I mean it literally used to chart on Global Spotify in 2018 for no reason (yes not just V'Day which it don't even re-enter for now) doing +1M :rip: She was basically Taylor before Taylor. Somehow she has seen a massive decline in back catalog relevance and that is worrying asf.

People heard Everything is Love and shipped her discography back

 

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50 minutes ago, Fleahive said:

Drag me but I’ve thought deep about Beyoncés popularity being timed perfectly due to opportunities given. Her debut was a SMASH no doubt. Her sophomore era was a SMASH no doubt. These were both organic moments. I think all the grand opportunities after those two eras really cemented her fame. If she didn’t get these opportunities at the right time then she may have fell off like her peers. What opportunities?

 

1. The first black president of the United States, asking her to sing at his first dance. The whole country watched it. It’s not a coincidence that single ladies slowly climb the charts to number one around this time. 2. Performing at Oprah‘s final show. Sure run the world flopped on the charts but the whole world knows the song probably because of that episode that everyone watched.

3. Michelle Obama speaking so highly about Beyoncé during out the entire presidency, and asking her to sing the national anthem during Obamas reelection. The whole country watched. 4. Being asked to perform the Super Bowl halftime show the year after Madonna. I believe this is why self-titled smashed so hard. If she never performed at the Super Bowl, but still surprised, dropped her album I believe it wouldn’t have done so well. 5. Returning for the 50th halftime show as a surprise guest and announcing her tour immediately after. I believe this performance + tour announcement + cheating scandal is wild, lemonade, debuted so high despite not being on streaming platforms. The whole country was thinking about her at the time of the release of the album, the same way with self titled. Performing for Hillary Clinton in 2016 also gave her more visibility. Beyoncés career stopped putting focus on sales after I am Sasha fierce and put all the focus in big performance opportunities and releasing a project not too long after that. Renaissance was her first album dropped without a stunt or big event months prior and showed her true numbers. And those numbers weren’t bad at all. But those numbers will continue to dwindle if she stops trying altogether. Press is important. PR is important. 

So basically she is who she is by luck :ahh:

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1 hour ago, Weld_E said:

here is my album ranking that no one asked for:

 

1. Lemonade 

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