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Diva still does it for me, Naughty Girl and Baby Boy can go though..

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Naughty Girl is one of her best songs and one of her most alluring performances. If there's one song I wish would never leave her setlists it's this one :sorry:

 

I hope she brings the FWT version back for the Renaissance show 

 

 

Leaving it out of her Coachella set was HUGE mistake 

 

IMO, the only real staples for RWT are: Crazy, Baby Boy, Single Ladies, and Naughty Girl (only because it so easily lends itself to the sound of the current era with the Donna sample). Maybe Drunk In Love after the virality and as a bridge to "modern Bey".

 

Everything else can GO! From Diva to even Formation. 

 

We have had tour after tour of the same staple songs, clear personal favorites (of HERS lol), alongside total randoms (like Resentment = WTF!)

 

Crucially, Bey is not really reinventing the wheel when it comes to the themes and BPM of her discography (stay with me). I mean that in the sense that she has ready-made new(er) songs to pick from if she wants to give:

 

* Bad Bish (Alien, Pure Honey, Cozy, Savage, Mood 4Eva, Move)
* Ballads/Vocal Moments (Bigger, Spirit)
* Empowerment (Break My Soul, My Power, Brown Skin Girl)
* Southern (Church Girl, Black Parade)
*  Vibey (Summer Ren, I'm That Girl, Find Your Way Back)

* Retro / Funk (Cuff It, Virgo's Groove, Before I Let Go)

* Dancehall / Afro Inspired (Heated, Already, Water) 

 

As well as totally left angles for her like: America's Got A Problem and All Up In Your Mind.

 

She literally has ALL bases covered with a ton of new songs. 

 

I want Bey to get her in Madonna bag of structuring her entire tours around her current album and either working contextually relevant older tracks to that new sound/feel or omitting them completely and not giving a damn while doing it. 

 

Outside of slaying the performance side of things, there's actually a science to touring and building long-term demand. Bey already gets/does this, but I want her to go all the way there. Especially as Rennie is her most hard-hitting, universally embraced album in well over a decade. No more benching new songs (or bonafide essentials like Single Ladies) only to perform songs like Resentment (WTF).

 

By benching even beloved songs and centering the entire spectacle around Renaissance (and even, to a degree, The Gift) she all at once gives her present material the shine it deserves, cements songs that haven't received a ton of love (so doing with The Gift what she did with Run The World and Ring The Alarm), and creates an air of must-see around each tour as it may be the "only/last time to hear x track" before her next musical evolution and the tour attached to that.

 

Madonna has mastered this, hence her huge per tour gross/demand and only now in her mid 60s is giving the girls the regular degular "celebrating the hits tour". Something her peers tend to start doing in their late 30s onwards. 

 

Bey has the enviable position of still being in her peak enough for people to come and both deal/love a tour centered around new material. She ought to do it, as it won't always be an option. 

 

Edited by Cbreezy

11 hours ago, kimberly said:

a fan account on instagram (bey.park) compiled the number of times Bey's performed each song on tour. I'm listing their numbers below:

 

490 shows (featured on all 8 tours)

Baby Boy

Crazy in Love

Naughty Girl

 

over 350 shows

366 - Irreplaceable

354 - Diva

 

over 300 shows

332 - Get Me Bodied

307 - Freakum Dress

306 - Halo

 

over 250 shows

296 - Me, Myself & I

292 - Survivor

269 - Upgrade U

259 - Single Ladies

 

over 200 shows

249 - Run the World

248 - Deja Vu

240 each - Bootylicious, Jumpin Jumpin, Say My Name

232 - If I Were a Boy

219 - Ring the Alarm

210 - Bug a Boo

205 - 03 Bonnie & Clyde

200 each - Check on It, Listen

a perfect list of songs to retire, i don’t wanna see any of these on the setlist besides CIL, DV, NG and maybe MM&I for a cute POTS mashup 

Being real real, the only staple is Crazy in Love/Halo....

 

SL is jarring which is why it's competing with IIWAB for streams, but live it'll be a fun addition but not essential imo. 

 

I actually think Sweet Dreams has the potential to explode during the tour if done properly bridge and all...  respectively it's aged better than SL on daily streams and never truly got a moment in the sun. The era of streaming resurgences makes it ripe for a comeback and it sonically is the most Rennie song Bey has recorded. It once came on after Alien Superstar and the transition was flawless wow :WAP:

 

 

I don’t think Beyonce ever really loved Sweet Dreams like that. She recorded it to throw a bone towards what the music scene had evolved into by that time before rebelling against it during the 4 era. That’s why she would perform it & then pull it off the set list quickly. It’s not a favorite.

29 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

IMO, the only real staples for RWT are: Crazy, Baby Boy, Single Ladies, and Naughty Girl (only because it so easily lends itself to the sound of the current era with the Donna sample). Maybe Drunk In Love after the virality and as a bridge to "modern Bey".

 

Everything else can GO! From Diva to even Formation. 

 

We have had tour after tour of the same staple songs, clear personal favorites (of HERS lol), alongside total randoms (like Resentment = WTF!)

 

Crucially, Bey is not really reinventing the wheel when it comes to the themes and BPM of her discography (stay with me). I mean that in the sense that she has ready-made new(er) songs to pick from if she wants to give:

 

* Bad Bish (Alien, Pure Honey, Cozy, Savage, Mood 4Eva, Move)
* Ballads/Vocal Moments (Bigger, Spirit)
* Empowerment (Break My Soul, My Power, Brown Skin Girl)
* Southern (Church Girl, Black Parade)
*  Vibey (Summer Ren, I'm That Girl, Find Your Way Back)

* Retro / Funk (Cuff It, Virgo's Groove, Before I Let Go)

* Dancehall / Afro Inspired (Heated, Already, Water) 

 

As well as totally left angles for her like: America's Got A Problem and All Up In Your Mind.

 

She literally has ALL bases covered with a ton of new songs. 

 

I want Bey to get her in Madonna bag of structuring her entire tours around her current album and either working contextually relevant older tracks to that new sound/feel or omitting them completely and not giving a damn while doing it. 

 

Outside of slaying the performance side of things, there's actually a science to touring and building long-term demand. Bey already gets/does this, but I want her to go all the way there. Especially as Rennie is her most hard-hitting, universally embraced album in well over a decade. No more benching new songs (or bonafide essentials like Single Ladies) only to perform songs like Resentment (WTF).

 

By benching even beloved songs and centering the entire spectacle around Renaissance (and even, to a degree, The Gift) she all at once gives her present material the shine it deserves, cements songs that haven't received a ton of love (so doing with The Gift what she did with Run The World and Ring The Alarm), and creates an air of must-see around each tour as it may be the "only/last time to hear x track" before her next musical evolution and the tour attached to that.

 

Madonna has mastered this, hence her huge per tour gross/demand and only now in her mid 60s is giving the girls the regular degular "celebrating the hits tour". Something her peers tend to start doing in their late 30s onwards. 

 

Bey has the enviable position of still being in her peak enough for people to come and both deal/love a tour centered around new material. She ought to do it, as it won't always be an option. 

 


not too much on Resentment…it wasn’t random or WTF choice. It was a fan fav since B’Day era & one of her most well known album tracks. Plus provided some of her best vocal highlight performances since she stopped performing “Dangerously In Love”. I’d rather hear that than “Spirit” which is less impressive & has no context outside the movie.

 

hopefully “Plastic off the Sofa” will have that place on the tour. Some Hive seem to think it should just be dancing…there’s a segment of Hive & GP that loves the Beyonce that will sit/stand and simply sing her ass off too…not just shake it.

if that hag doesn’t bring back partition… it fits the slutty, dark, experimental Renni vibe perfectly it’s been a minute since it got an iconic performance and it’s one of the only ST songs that translates well live… it better be there 

Need her to mix bad girls with freakum dress and then transition it into crazy in love real bad. Like bday needs to SHINE on this tour she paid it dust for like 10 years. Btw Everyone saying diva needs to go is gonna get their life anyway when it comes on, it’s perfect for this tour. A classic in the making it’s true

1 hour ago, giRLbye. said:

I don’t think Beyonce ever really loved Sweet Dreams like that. She recorded it to throw a bone towards what the music scene had evolved into by that time before rebelling against it during the 4 era. That’s why she would perform it & then pull it off the set list quickly. It’s not a favorite.

It’s still a 10000/10 song, it fits the vibe of the tour and transition into so many songs from renaissance and disco covers she should bring it on this tour 

BSG almost platinum I’m screaming. That album is gonna serve 4 with the songs going multiplat years later as people discover them, she always wins in the long run

what happened to twitter hive ? they used to be ruthlessly iconic and now they beef with football fans and the 4 remaining Christina aguilera stans… serving very insecure :deadbanana2: 

 

2 hours ago, Otter said:

Being real real, the only staple is Crazy in Love/Halo....

 

SL is jarring which is why it's competing with IIWAB for streams, but live it'll be a fun addition but not essential imo. 

 

I actually think Sweet Dreams has the potential to explode during the tour if done properly bridge and all...  respectively it's aged better than SL on daily streams and never truly got a moment in the sun. The era of streaming resurgences makes it ripe for a comeback and it sonically is the most Rennie song Bey has recorded. It once came on after Alien Superstar and the transition was flawless wow :WAP:

 

 

I can see Sweet Dreams getting big boosts given a spot on the tour. It’s one of those singles that get lost among her discography, but also a favorite among pop music purists. It’s also just so versatile as a song, so much can be done for it to fit whatever mood.

 

2 hours ago, giRLbye. said:


not too much on Resentment…it wasn’t random or WTF choice. It was a fan fav since B’Day era & one of her most well known album tracks. Plus provided some of her best vocal highlight performances since she stopped performing “Dangerously In Love”. I’d rather hear that than “Spirit” which is less impressive & has no context outside the movie.

 

hopefully “Plastic off the Sofa” will have that place on the tour. Some Hive seem to think it should just be dancing…there’s a segment of Hive & GP that loves the Beyonce that will sit/stand and simply sing her ass off too…not just shake it.

This :clap3:

 

Resentment is one of Bey's personal faves. She has the right to sing any song she wants to LOL

 

Having said that, I bet that Plastic's spot is pretty safe.

 

 

re-record this as a duet with adam levine and she'd get her second US Billboard #1 YE

22 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

 

 

re-record this as a duet with adam levine and she'd get her second US Billboard #1 YE

Forget that Kaytranada "Cuff It" remix he did at Coachella ... he should've made this track over into something with heavier Afro-disco vibes, got B's permission after (like the Cuff It Wetter mix), and released an official collab.

 

It's been sitting on YouTube too long, and the perfect "Control" remix would make it a shoo-in for this tour.

She kinda looks like B / Joan Smalls / Dinah Jane blended together.

 

A global legacy.

The Little Mix girls (UK), Elyanna (Palestine/Chile), Normani / Chlöe (USA), Keshia Chanté (Canada), IZA (Brazil), Zara Larsson (Sweden), etc

2 hours ago, giRLbye. said:


not too much on Resentment…it wasn’t random or WTF choice. It was a fan fav since B’Day era & one of her most well known album tracks. Plus provided some of her best vocal highlight performances since she stopped performing “Dangerously In Love”. I’d rather hear that than “Spirit” which is less impressive & has no context outside the movie.

 

hopefully “Plastic off the Sofa” will have that place on the tour. Some Hive seem to think it should just be dancing…there’s a segment of Hive & GP that loves the Beyonce that will sit/stand and simply sing her ass off too…not just shake it.

The only thing I'll give it is that it fit the theme of OTRII, but even then, I just can't stomach the idea of her passing up her super obvious hits in favor of...that. She does it quite a lot. It's a right she's earned, but at least do it with worthwhile tracks. Songs that will be excited to see back in the mix. 

 

Side note: we definitely have different tastes. Because, as on the nose as Spirit is, that lil acapella version in BIK is all I needed to see to KNOW that it will be a moment live. We saw as much in Dubai too. 


I too love Bey standing and singing, but in thinking to why I love Whitney so much it's that she made even those moments...moments. The more mellow segments and song choices needn't be boring. They can be grand and have spectacle all while standing still. 

Since it feels like she’s dead, opening night will serve resurrection. Even more charged with excitement and anticipation than usual. She’s insane for that. And once everyone has blurry pixelated phone videos of her performing these songs everyone loves, it will set in stone the fact unless you could afford a ticket, you got nothing this era. Doesn’t matter how big or loyal of a fan you may be, unless you can afford to see her live, you’re assed out. :katie: Strange behaviour from the love you deep chanteuse!

59 minutes ago, trainsskyscrapers said:

She kinda looks like B / Joan Smalls / Dinah Jane blended together.

 

A global legacy.

The Little Mix girls (UK), Elyanna (Palestine/Chile), Normani / Chlöe (USA), Keshia Chanté (Canada), IZA (Brazil), Zara Larsson (Sweden), etc

I love this woman! Ya Waylak is such a bop. 

1 hour ago, trainsskyscrapers said:

She kinda looks like B / Joan Smalls / Dinah Jane blended together.

 

A global legacy.

The Little Mix girls (UK), Elyanna (Palestine/Chile), Normani / Chlöe (USA), Keshia Chanté (Canada), IZA (Brazil), Zara Larsson (Sweden), etc

Her set was amazing!

I thought i wanted the visuals before the tour but her going missing again is kinda better right before the tour. People will be so starving during that first tour stop, she will probably break the internet with the first performance. To think she is really going to perform those songs for the FIRST TIME on tour and fans dont have an idea what is coming visually on the tour either. 

 

I'm sorry we can complain all we want. ALL of this is iconic and a first in the industry. In the long run, it will also be a positive thing. Can you imagine that film on Netflix with backstage footage, tour footage AND the renaissance videos in a 3 hour + event on Netflix? 

 

It would make her climb on top of a hill that not many would be able to join on after that.

1 hour ago, Mitsouko said:

Since it feels like she’s dead, opening night will serve resurrection. Even more charged with excitement and anticipation than usual. She’s insane for that. And once everyone has blurry pixelated phone videos of her performing these songs everyone loves, it will set in stone the fact unless you could afford a ticket, you got nothing this era. Doesn’t matter how big or loyal of a fan you may be, unless you can afford to see her live, you’re assed out. :katie: Strange behaviour from the love you deep chanteuse!

Some love to comfort themselves that they will watch the tour online lol but can you imagine that feeling to be IN the room with Beyoncé celebrating this album? an album full of club songs MADE for a stadium tour? MANY will be watching the videos in tears i'm sure lol. They will totally feel like being left out of a very cool exclusive club. I'm so glad i got two tickets. I was NOT going to make that foolish mistake. I did it once with Formation tour. Never again.

We really could beeeeee… Living! 
Young Wild and Freeeeeee!

 

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