4 minutes ago, kimberly said:

vinyl probably got delayed because they're pressing new ones with the new "Heated" lyric change and "Energy"/"Milkshake" ad lib removed. that's my guess.

That's very likely, yeah. I was thinking that they might want to secure another week at #1 on Billboard 200, and if they had done Sept 14 with visuals and more physicals, they'd have to go against BLACKPINK. 

1 hour ago, flashback3301 said:

There's nothing that terrible about the rollout. She kept us well fed and entertained well into album release week - tracklist/booklet reveal, remixes, merch, the visuals teaser.  She ever pretended like "the leak" was a big deal (as if all albums that come with physicals don't leak about 24-36 hrs ahead of release) and wrote a cute little note to show appreciation.

 

Sure, it's unusual to withhold the lead's music video, but it's not because it's not finished. I know she rented out 7 sound stages in LA and filmed visuals simultaneously for about 8 days in early June, and some of the visuals were already finished earlier this year. The visuals for ACT I are ready. She is withholding them on purpose. 

 

I'm sure her team wants to revive the hype around the album towards the end of the year when the Grammy nominations come out and the voting process begins. With the additional vinyls being released in mid-October, I can see her releasing the visuals around then. Maybe she'll also do some sort of TV special around the holidays. And there's a documentary dropping at some point, only I'm not entirely sure if they'll change it to include footage on all 3 acts or release it before act 2.

 

Careful, you’re about to become ATRL’s next “why won’t they answer our millions of detailed questions?!” insider.

39 minutes ago, flashback3301 said:

So it's entirely possible that something in their rollout strategy changed

This is what Ive been saying but there are people here who believe that everything is all rosy and flawlessly following a plan Parkwood set out a year ago, which is not realistic  

5 hours ago, satellites.™ said:

Literally all of this.

 

Chloe is young and has not studied the divas of pop's past enough and it shows. Her sexuality is overt and very sleazy looking versus sultry and seductive.

 

It's why Beyonce was always able to garner respect, it was always a seduction on stage, not a quick ****.

 

Even at her sultriest, Bey always just seems to know how to keep it right where it needs to be like Janet.

 

 

as opposed to this

 

Maybeee, but I’m not sold that it has anything to do with her “cringy” sexuality. If she looked like a supermodel, she’d be able to get away with worse behavior.

 

 

I honestly think there’s an element of lookism involved. Cause her beauty is never complimented like her sister.

9 minutes ago, tachiwaka said:

Careful, you’re about to become ATRL’s next “why won’t they answer our millions of detailed questions?!” insider.

OMG I hope not, haha. I just occasionally hear stuff here and there. I don't have a direct connection to anyone on her team. 

Not October visuals omg this is ridiculous

 

It would be different if there was something else going on like she was out there performing, talking about it or something but literally NOTHING is happening. 

 

I can't believe it's been 2 months since the start of this era and all we've seen of her is a couple elevator pics from a private party where no phones were allowed and everyone invited had to sign an NDA. 
 

She really said 'okay release the song. Now release the album. That's it.'
 

This is BY FAR her worst album cycle 

Im still not sold there’s a documentary coming but I will be overjoyed if we get some behind the scenes footage like The Year Of 4. A doc needs to be personal and open which she’ll never fully do. And something about the life of two billionaires would be tone deaf. Homecoming worked because it was about black legends and celebrating HBCUs. Life Is But A Dream was not good documentary. 
So yeah, just give us BTS footage of the making of the videos 

Yes it's her worst album cycle, but it's also her best album. Overall we won. Many years from now we'll be glad we got this album, a #1 single and a #1 album, Nobody is gonna remember what promo she did or didn't do.

4 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

Why was there a big ass deal about this photo?? You can even see her thigh gap in her shadow People really lose their mind when it comes to Bey lmao

Halle dresses just as sexy as Chlöe but it’s only Chlöe that get flak for it. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with how she presents herself, if it makes you uncomfortable or cringe, that’s a personal issue. 
The Beyhive that come for her is particularly perplexing when Bey has pretty much done everything Chlöe is doing. The difference is when Bey debuted she was still trying to keep a good girl image which limited how she expressed herself. This is the woman who was shy to say ***** in her songs (Flaws & All) Bey didn’t let go of society’s expectations until Self Titled and I remember she got a lot of flak too. So yeah Bey is more sensual and mysterious than Chlöe because she had time to mature.

Finally I think today’s fashion plays a role in it too. What Chlöe is allowed to wear publicly (her last bikini photo per example) is not the same as what was allowed 20 years ago.

4 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

Halle dresses just as sexy as Chlöe but it’s only Chlöe that get flak for it. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with how she presents herself, if it makes you uncomfortable or cringe, that’s a personal issue. 
The Beyhive that come for her is particularly perplexing when Bey has pretty much done everything Chlöe is doing. The difference is when Bey debuted she was still trying to keep a good girl image which limited how she expressed herself. This is the woman who was shy to say ***** in her songs (Flaws & All) Bey didn’t let go of society’s expectations until Self Titled and I remember she got a lot of flak too. So yeah Bey is more sensual and mysterious than Chlöe because she had time to mature.

Finally I think today’s fashion plays a role in it too. What Chlöe is allowed to wear publicly (her last bikini photo per example) is not the same as what was allowed 20 years ago.

Well then its a personal issue of most people who follow Chloe

theres a reason her entire career is tanking and its not just single choice. Her image is in the pits and not consistent. 

That debut album is not delayed for no reason.

9 minutes ago, Daydream said:

Yes it's her worst album cycle, but it's also her best album. Overall we won. Many years from now we'll be glad we got this album, a #1 single and a #1 album, Nobody is gonna remember what promo she did or didn't do.

Which makes it all the more frustrating

 

I don't really mind the promo as much as I care about CONTENT. I don't know about y'all but stuff like insight behind the album  for example really hits for me and stays. 
 

Sure, I dont remember 90% of the interviews she's given on night shows and what not, but I do vividly remember being shocked at how sexual ST was initially and then it all changed when I heard her talk about how liberated she feels after giving birth and just because she's a mother and 30 does't  mean she can't be sexy anymore in one of those bts videos.

 

Not to mention performances, which I believe are and will be the most prominent part of her legacy as an entertainer. God what I wouldn't give to experience the GAG of seeing those low quality fan videos of Blow and Partition form the tour when she started performing them for the first time again  These are always one of the most exciting aspects of a new era

 

This rollout is horrible to experience as a fan omg

18 minutes ago, MrPiggyMoka said:

Why was there a big ass deal about this photo?? You can even see her thigh gap in her shadow People really lose their mind when it comes to Bey lmao

Girl look at the stair, it's distortioned   they definitely touched up her thighs 

 

I dont't even know why cause the difference would probably be minuscule and her body would look just as fly but oh well

19 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

Girl look at the stair, it's distortioned   they definitely touched up her thighs 

 

I dont't even know why cause the difference would probably be minuscule and her body would look just as fly but oh well

ohh

26 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Well then its a personal issue of most people who follow Chloe

theres a reason her entire career is tanking and its not just single choice. Her image is in the pits and not consistent. 

That debut album is not delayed for no reason.

Her career is doing fine. It’s not like CxH were a smashing group. They only have one platinum single, just like Chlöe  

Her image doesn’t work for everyone and that’s fine. If you don’t like it, there are other artists to follow. I swear Beyoncé gets this same criticism from people, a lot of people don’t like her image.

32 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

Halle dresses just as sexy as Chlöe but it’s only Chlöe that get flak for it. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with how she presents herself, if it makes you uncomfortable or cringe, that’s a personal issue. 
The Beyhive that come for her is particularly perplexing when Bey has pretty much done everything Chlöe is doing. The difference is when Bey debuted she was still trying to keep a good girl image which limited how she expressed herself. This is the woman who was shy to say ***** in her songs (Flaws & All) Bey didn’t let go of society’s expectations until Self Titled and I remember she got a lot of flak too. So yeah Bey is more sensual and mysterious than Chlöe because she had time to mature.

Finally I think today’s fashion plays a role in it too. What Chlöe is allowed to wear publicly (her last bikini photo per example) is not the same as what was allowed 20 years ago.

I think it's not how she dresses... she dresses super good in my opinion, it's the way she dances and also sings, it's very extra and she is playing with the camera in a VERY but VERY sexual way even if the song is a random cover that is not connected to sex at all... I don't really care much for Chloe anymore, but i remember seeing her perform solo she was doing WAY too much, so i see how people would be turned off by that. It's great and all she wants to produce and write all her songs, but she really does need a hit soon to keep people interested... Doesn't Beyoncé have like 2342352354 songs on her computer, can't she pass a hit to her lil sis? Help your artist out Bey lmao

6 hours ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

But beyonce is a weird person. Like, its a very cute thing to want people to listen to ur songs because they genuinely care and love it, but does she really think shed have glorified and fangirled over MJ, Tina, Janet, Prince and so on if there wasnt a machine behind it, if there songs and Videos wouldnt have been blasted on MTV, Radio, TV, if they didnt feel omnipresent?

This recluse behavior is so irritating.

MJ, Tina, Janet, Prince ALL became recluse 25 years into their careers. They all got tired of the media intrusion and wanted to be left alone. Did you stop following those people when they hit 40? clearly and that would explain why you have a hard time accepting Bey's decision to handle her own career and slow down. Who is going to stay hungry and the same after decades doing the same thing? it wouldn't make sense at all.

 

All those young shiny little pop stars today are all going to be tired of the machine and go into hiding eventually, some will move on from music completely and barely seen, at least Beyoncé still cares about putting out music.

Every time I hear the lyric "I wanna go missing" in CUFF IT I just think "why would she want to be a missing persons? "

3 minutes ago, MrPiggyMoka said:

I think it's not how she dresses... she dresses super good in my opinion, it's the way she dances and also sings, it's very extra and she is playing with the camera in a VERY but VERY sexual way even if the song is a random cover that is not connected to sex at all... I don't really care much for Chloe anymore, but i remember seeing her perform solo she was doing WAY too much, so i see how people would be turned off by that. It's great and all she wants to produce and write all her songs, but she really does need a hit soon to keep people interested... Doesn't Beyoncé have like 2342352354 songs on her computer, can't she pass a hit to her lil sis? Help your artist out Bey lmao

I agree. People seem to forget those girls are very young and it irks some to see them ALWAYS moving sexually with their bodies all out. Bey had sexy moments in DC and during her solo career when she was young but she balanced it out with other things. It wasn't 24/7 all the time doing the same sexy moves, trying to seduce the camera basically every moment it's on them. What about putting some substance in the music as well? how about some fun songs and just having a good time without all the sexual moves all the time?  They barely have a team behind them because Parkwood are focused on other things mainly business moves and Yvette is the laziest PR person in this industry. Basically there's no chance of those girls going far, which is why you're going to see them doing acting gigs more moving forward because musically they seem already burned out.

2 minutes ago, MrPiggyMoka said:

I think it's not how she dresses... she dresses super good in my opinion, it's the way she dances and also sings, it's very extra and she is playing with the camera in a VERY but VERY sexual way even if the song is a random cover that is not connected to sex at all... I don't really care much for Chloe anymore, but i remember seeing her perform solo she was doing WAY too much, so i see how people would be turned off by that. It's great and all she wants to produce and write all her songs, but she really does need a hit soon to keep people interested... Doesn't Beyoncé have like 2342352354 songs on her computer, can't she pass a hit to her lil sis? Help your artist out Bey lmao

The thing that annoys me is people have been trying to tame her for over a year now. Telling someone to be less sexual is a form of control. Im glad she ignores everyone. It’s time to accept that this is who she is and what she likes. She has brand deals and a movie career, that’s what gives her the freedom to make whatever music she wants

Bey has done more than enough for Chloe and Halle by now. They've had more benefit than any other new artist gets, so the rest is up to them. They'll always have her backing anyway. At least she didn't abandon them completely like Kelly did June's Diary.

3 minutes ago, jane said:

I agree. People seem to forget those girls are very young and it irks some to see them ALWAYS moving sexually with their bodies all out. Bey had sexy moments in DC and during her solo career when she was young but she balanced it out with other things. It wasn't 24/7 all the time doing the same sexy moves, trying to seduce the camera basically every moment it's on them. What about putting some substance in the music as well? how about some fun songs and just having a good time without all the sexual moves all the time?  They barely have a team behind them because Parkwood are focused on other things mainly business moves and Yvette is the laziest PR person in this industry. Basically there's no chance of those girls going far, which is why you're going to see them doing acting gigs more moving forward because musically they seem already burned out.

- Chlöe is 24 years old. She’s an adult  

- Chlöe only has 2 videos out. Give her time to build a discography and a videography before putting her in one box

3 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

The thing that annoys me is people have been trying to tame her for over a year now. Telling someone to be less sexual is a form of control. Im glad she ignores everyone. It’s time to accept that this is who she is and what she likes. She has brand deals and a movie career, that’s what gives her the freedom to make whatever music she wants

Sure she can act however she wants, i really don't care, but she won't get success acting like this

 

now what in the hell...  (any church girls in here - don't watch this)