R.E.M. Posted August 10, 2022 Author Posted August 10, 2022 Then again nobody really expected Positions to drop in Q4 2020 so there's still hope. Lead single in October, second single in January, third single + album drop in March It's not like she does promo anyway so she can release an album while filming Wicked.
mxoonlight Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 I do kind of wonder what's going to happen though, even if Wicked is a smashing success and has a good run at the awards season, I just can't see her doing a full career transition so early. It's totally fine to be burned out from the music industry especially with what she's gone through, but she's branded herself as a singer for a reason, so unless she's aiming for jumping right into Broadway after AG7 tour, I'm not sure what the idea here is. My gut makes me think she'll start recording before the first movie's release, get that out of the way and kind of let the chips fall where they may afterward and let that dictate strategy, but it's just weird because she is doing things, but it's not really in a way where it feels like it's meaningful.
R.E.M. Posted August 10, 2022 Author Posted August 10, 2022 I just don't see the point in pursuing a passion project that will likely bomb when you're at the height of your commercial viability and vocal prime As much as I hate to say it, 30 is around the corner and the industry is not kind to pop girls in their 30s.
mxoonlight Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, R.E.M. said: I just don't see the point in pursuing a passion project that will likely bomb when you're at the height of your commercial viability and vocal prime As much as I hate to say it, 30 is around the corner and the industry is not kind to pop girls in their 30s. That's why it annoys me so much that they split it into two movies because what is the point the GP recognition of Wicked is just not there to justify two ridiculously high budget films and release them on Christmas Day hoping that it being released during a coveted period is going to stomach the cost. I've been trying to ignore the red flags and stay optimistic, but it's getting harder I just hope that whatever happens to the movie that she's not dissuaded from trying out other new things.
R.E.M. Posted August 10, 2022 Author Posted August 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, mxoonlight said: That's why it annoys me so much that they split it into two movies because what is the point the GP recognition of Wicked is just not there to justify two ridiculously high budget films and release them on Christmas Day hoping that it being released during a coveted period is going to stomach the cost. I've been trying to ignore the red flags and stay optimistic, but it's getting harder I just hope that whatever happens to the movie that she's not dissuaded from trying out other new things. They have so much faith in this movie and I'm not sure why/how. When was the last musical to smash at the box office released? If she actually gave a **** about milking her eras and seeing them through to the end, I can justify the wait. But it's the fact that we're going to wait 2-3 years for another half-assed, botched release with at most two singles followed by a year-long disappearance.
mxoonlight Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, R.E.M. said: They have so much faith in this movie and I'm not sure why/how. When was the last musical to smash at the box office released? If she actually gave a **** about milking her eras and seeing them through to the end, I can justify the wait. But it's the fact that we're going to wait 2-3 years for another half-assed, botched release with at most two singles followed by a year-long disappearance. Probably Greatest Showman which was 2017 but even that ended up being a huge vehicle for Hugh Jackman to wash off the Wolverine stench and go onto Broadway so I can see why they're doing it if they want to re-frame how she's seen as an entertainer. I personally just want a tour and a different sounding album, I think it's clear she's never going to do significant promo ever again so with that, at least move the needle a little more sonically. Hopefully Renaissance and the success it's seen places enough pressure to do so.
wantedyoutogrow Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 I'm glad i'm not the only one that thinks that wicked will bomb. But I get that this is a passion project for her so as long as she's content and happy ig that's what matters
ariananext Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 I don't even care that much about Wicked's performance, I hope it won't be a bomb quality wise, I'd rather it be acclaimed than successful, I just want content, and Wicked will give us content, however I do agree that two movies are absolutely unnecessary, especially because this will drag the break until God knows when.
moonlitdick Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 I’m sorry but her just being MIA for a long time with no music at all is very risky I don’t see a positive outcome but what can we do.
Jude Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 Y'all don't really defend Ariana anymore. You just let the s******s and oahs bully her it's so sad.
raven Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, Jude said: Y'all don't really defend Ariana anymore. You just let the s******s and oahs bully her it's so sad. she doesn't care about her singing career so why should we plus I feel like most of us don't have the energy to engage anymore I think a 2 year break has been good for her but I don't have a good feeling about this film anymore, especially the fact that it's 2 parts. I'm not a theatre person, but would people really care that much to go see 2 wicked films?
Jude Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, raven said: she doesn't care about her singing career so why should we plus I feel like most of us don't have the energy to engage anymore I think a 2 year break has been good for her but I don't have a good feeling about this film anymore, especially the fact that it's 2 parts. I'm not a theatre person, but would people really care that much to go see 2 wicked films? Points were made but still... it's annoying to see this site disrespect Ariana and downplay her commercial and critical (especially) success like our girl really worked so hard for all of them before (although she is lazy now).
Blue Monday Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, raven said: she doesn't care about her singing career so why should we plus I feel like most of us don't have the energy to engage anymore I think a 2 year break has been good for her but I don't have a good feeling about this film anymore, especially the fact that it's 2 parts. I'm not a theatre person, but would people really care that much to go see 2 wicked films? Die hard fans of the musical are really upset about the split; I haven't seen it on stage but I am familiar with the plot and it's honestly such a terrible idea
ariananext Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Jude said: Points were made but still... it's annoying to see this site disrespect Ariana and downplay her commercial and critical (especially) success like our girl really worked so hard for all of them before (although she is lazy now). ATRL is out of touch with reality, them downplaying her success won't change a thing
wantedyoutogrow Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 I miss her so much, but I kinda hate her
raven Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Blue Monday said: Die hard fans of the musical are really upset about the split; I haven't seen it on stage but I am familiar with the plot and it's honestly such a terrible idea well... it's over
Blue Monday Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, raven said: well... it's over If she could just release a standalone single or something just to keep her name on the charts... where is Scooter
sweetkiss Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Blue Monday said: If she could just release a standalone single or something just to keep her name on the charts... where is Scooter on vacation https://www.instagram.com/p/ChDm44Yrd_l/?hl=en
Blue Monday Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, wantedyoutogrow said: us we didn't know how good we had it... 4 minutes ago, sweetkiss said: on vacation https://www.instagram.com/p/ChDm44Yrd_l/?hl=en https://twitter.com/findareaction/status/1502097810291933197
raven Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 I'm shocked she hasn't said anything about RENAISSANCE
Jjang Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 If Wicked does what it has to do it could potentially be bigger/more iconic than anything she's done in her career and will be much more significant for her legacy than another positions sized era pls She can record an entire album in 2 weeks and release it at any given time in 2023. Chill.
genio Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, Jjang said: If Wicked does what it has to do it could potentially be bigger/more iconic than anything she's done in her career and will be much more significant for her legacy than another positions sized era pls She can record an entire album in 2 weeks and release it at any given time in 2023. Chill. I think the concerns are very rational this time. A long break over 3 years or more is always risky and if the quality of the next project, whether it be film or music related, doesn't meet with the expecations of the fans and/or the GP, it could end her commercial career for good (Bionic and Witness come to mind sadly).
Jude Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 I miss the times when Scooter could woop her ass and make her work like a cow.
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