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I completely understand why so many don’t use Civics like they used to. Completely insufferable, obnoxious and obtuse groupthink. 

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So another Palestinian member gets permabanned while many many Zionists with a well-documented history of pro-genocide/pro-occupation/racist posts are still roaming around the website freely. Yet we are supposed to believe that this place "supports a Free Palestine" and is a safe space for its Palestinian/Arab members. Please. :laugh: 

 

This obviously does not come as a shock to me when the admin in question has previously blamed Hamas for starting "this conflict" (lol) and for Palestinians being killed:

On 5/6/2024 at 7:50 AM, Ryan said:

Is Hamas not the terrorist group that started this latest conflict?

On 8/23/2024 at 4:18 AM, Ryan said:

Again, you are an unserious person. 
 

The only people responsible for the murder of the Palestinians is the IDF and the terrorist organization Hamas. 

Refuses to acknowledge that they are a resistance movement, says they're "no different than the IDF", and even pushes "human shields!!!!" hasbara talking points issued directly by Israel's government:

On 8/23/2024 at 3:17 PM, Ryan said:

They literally committed a terrorist act. They literally hide among the very people they claim to protect. They're no different than the IDF. The Palestinians deserve better.

 

The fact that you consider Hamas "resistance" tells me everything I need to know. 
 

I pray for the day the Palestinians are free from their occupiers — the Israel terrorists and the terrorists that are Hamas.  

And has constantly shut down any criticism directed at Genocie Joe and Kamala Harris with the same old stupid "why don't they protest Republicans instead!!!!" rhetoric. This Liberal dumbassery is so transparent and we're tired of it. You are not pro-Palestine, you are pro-"let's end the war and sing kumbaya together" at best, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

You can go ahead and ban me too, by the way, since we're apparently turning into GagaDaily and you're threatening to ban users left and right. This dying cesspool is barely keeping its **** together anyway. xx

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

So another Palestinian member gets permabanned while many many Zionists with a well-documented history of pro-genocide/pro-occupation/racist posts are still roaming around the website freely. Yet we are supposed to believe that this place "supports a Free Palestine" and is a safe space for its Palestinian/Arab members. Please. :laugh: 

 

 

 

Reiterating to say that @KahnumDash, who posted "enjoy the rubble" regarding bombings in Gaza, and who afterward responded like this:

 

not only is NOT permabanned, but just this month openly cheered on Germany for deporting individuals who protested Israel's genocide:

 

And they are still here. But Palestinian members who the admins decide are annoying are permabanned without a second thought. It's genuinely outrageous.

35 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

So another Palestinian member gets permabanned while many many Zionists with a well-documented history of pro-genocide/pro-occupation/racist posts are still roaming around the website freely. Yet we are supposed to believe that this place "supports a Free Palestine" and is a safe space for its Palestinian/Arab members. Please. :laugh: 

 

This obviously does not come as a shock to me when the admin in question has previously blamed Hamas for starting "this conflict" (lol) and for Palestinians being killed:

Refuses to acknowledge that they are a resistance movement, says they're "no different than the IDF", and even pushes "human shields!!!!" hasbara talking points issued directly by Israel's government:

And has constantly shut down any criticism directed at Genocie Joe and Kamala Harris with the same old stupid "why don't they protest Republicans instead!!!!" rhetoric. This Liberal dumbassery is so transparent and we're tired of it. You are not pro-Palestine, you are pro-"let's end the war and sing kumbaya together" at best, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

You can go ahead and ban me too, by the way, since we're apparently turning into GagaDaily and you're threatening to ban users left and right. This dying cesspool is barely keeping its **** together anyway. xx

 

 

 

and how do you expect to educate people while accusing them of being responsible for and in favor of a genocide? This isn't what good faith discourse looks like. This is the internet leftist morality circle jerk.

 

 

I personally have made comments stating that Joe Biden should have been put to death over his support of Israhell and did not receive a single warning point because despite all accusations, the people in charge understand that lines get crossed when emotions are (rightfully) running high. My comment was against a politician, yours are against forum users.

 

You can't constantly accuse people of being infatuated with the idea of killing babies and expect to be treated with respect. You guys are TRULY the blue MAGA because the discourse has become insanely out of touch.

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29 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

So another Palestinian member gets permabanned while many many Zionists with a well-documented history of pro-genocide/pro-occupation/racist posts are still roaming around the website freely. Yet we are supposed to believe that this place "supports a Free Palestine" and is a safe space for its Palestinian/Arab members. Please. :laugh: 

 

This obviously does not come as a shock to me when the admin in question has previously blamed Hamas for starting "this conflict" (lol) and for Palestinians being killed:

Refuses to acknowledge that they are a resistance movement, says they're "no different than the IDF", and even pushes "human shields!!!!" hasbara talking points issued directly by Israel's government:

And has constantly shut down any criticism directed at Genocie Joe and Kamala Harris with the same old stupid "why don't they protest Republicans instead!!!!" rhetoric. This Liberal dumbassery is so transparent and we're tired of it. You are not pro-Palestine, you are pro-"let's end the war and sing kumbaya together" at best, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

You can go ahead and ban me too, by the way, since we're apparently turning into GagaDaily and you're threatening to ban users left and right. This dying cesspool is barely keeping its **** together anyway. xx

 

 

 

Pretending like your viewpoints haven't been given incredible leeway even with some users blatantly skirting the line between anti-Zionism and anti-semitism is ridiculous. Y'all want everyone to fall in line and blindly support the resistance without reservation and that's not how it works. We are allowed to question Hamas. We can be both for the liberation of Palestinians and question the motives and actions of those speaking for them. If you don't like the idea of a forum that supports the freedom to discuss a variety of viewpoints and simply want to live in an echo chamber, go find a subreddit that caters to that. Everyone else on here is just as sick of navigating how to discuss these things without being accused of being an Israeli shill.

Go make a thread about Russia's senseless and imperialistic invasion of Ukraine on Ga Ga Daily(if the Russian, fighting age admin/owner, Kirill Nguyen, ever made it back to his own website after mysteriously disappearing during the conflict), then make the same thread on here and see which one is censored before you make the heinously offensive accusations against Ryan. I was permanently banned from that website for making a thread to combat islamophobia. I know PLENTY of people(including myself) who reported active pedophiles to the people in charge of that forum when we were kids for it to be swept under the rug and nothing being done about it. Moderators on that website actively defend racism.

 

 

Bullying somebody who is desperately trying to keep this community going and already on the verge of quitting for banning somebody that he previously warned several times to stop attacking him is miserable behavior. If political discussions are the only thing you care about on a POP MUSIC forum, then please leave, quickly.

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10 minutes ago, nostalgic said:

Pretending like your viewpoints haven't been given incredible leeway even with some users blatantly skirting the line between anti-Zionism and anti-semitism is ridiculous. Y'all want everyone to fall in line and blindly support the resistance without reservation and that's not how it works. We are allowed to question Hamas. We can be both for the liberation of Palestinians and question the motives and actions of those speaking for them. If you don't like the idea of a forum that supports the freedom to discuss a variety of viewpoints and simply want to live in an echo chamber, go find a subreddit that caters to that. Everyone else on here is just as sick of navigating how to discuss these things without being accused of being an Israeli shill.

!!!

 

Especially when the largest userbase on this website comes from a country that shoves zionist propaganda down our throats so quickly and aggressively that you'd think they were trying to make foie gras. Some people genuinely are well-intentioned and misinformed. It's hard to side with people who call you a genocide supporter. This behavior does NO good.

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53 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

You can go ahead and ban me too

Done. Bye. 

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38 minutes ago, LIT said:

Yeah I've seen enough tbh.

@RyanCan you delete my account? I confirmed my account deletion request back in December but nothing has happened...and idrk where else to ask for this.

We stopped deleting accounts because people kept abusing it.

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2 minutes ago, Bimbo said:

I'm afraid Femininomenon is still posting freely

 

 

Thank you. Forgot to ban it that day. 

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And if you think messaging a mod is going to get me to change my mind you can think again. 

3 hours ago, Ryan said:

I completely understand why so many don't use Civics like they used to. Completely insufferable, obnoxious and obtuse groupthink. 

This is so immature. I can't even… if folks don't want to engage, then that's on them… the election megathread objectively has some of the brightest users (sorry but petty Stan nonsense isn't that appealing to me) posting well thought out takes back and forth… legit such a streamlined way to find out what's going on, better than any Reddit or bluesky thread precisely because it LACKS the groupthink of those spaces… 

6 minutes ago, noodlelymph said:

This is so immature. I can't even… if folks don't want to engage, then that's on them… the election megathread objectively has some of the brightest users (sorry but petty Stan nonsense isn't that appealing to me) posting well thought out takes back and forth… legit such a streamlined way to find out what's going on, better than any Reddit or bluesky thread precisely because it LACKS the groupthink of those spaces… 

Weren't you the user who was just in another thread urging me to rethink my own pro-palestinian comments, which went against the popular narrative/cult dynamics, because some unnamed Zionist liked a post of mine? :deadbanana2:

 

I don't think you know even what groupthink means sis :deadbanana2:

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1 hour ago, nostalgic said:

Pretending like your viewpoints haven't been given incredible leeway even with some users blatantly skirting the line between anti-Zionism and anti-semitism is ridiculous. Y'all want everyone to fall in line and blindly support the resistance without reservation and that's not how it works. We are allowed to question Hamas. We can be both for the liberation of Palestinians and question the motives and actions of those speaking for them. If you don't like the idea of a forum that supports the freedom to discuss a variety of viewpoints and simply want to live in an echo chamber, go find a subreddit that caters to that. Everyone else on here is just as sick of navigating how to discuss these things without being accused of being an Israeli shill.

Given the events of today and actions towards pro-Palestine users here (and lack thereof towards the most egregious Zionist users as mentioned earlier in this thread) evidently we don't have that…. And given that liberal users get mad everytime their views are challenged (I saw it nonstop on the election thread the past week when the potential Harris 2028 run discourse was brought up) it seems that it's a certain group of people who *actually* want an echo chamber. "Trump bad, GOP bad" like that holds any meaning on a site where the overwhelming majority of the site already agreed with that… 

2 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

Weren't you the user who was just in another thread urging me to rethink my own pro-palestinian comments, which went against the popular narrative/cult dynamics, because some unnamed Zionist liked a post of mine? :deadbanana2:

 

I don't think you know even what groupthink means sis :deadbanana2:

There's a very clear difference between engaging and saying that folks are mad that they're engaging. I don't mind going back and forth with you and im Not complaining about it… the actions of the admin recently to ban members he disagrees with and then accuse other members against that of being in "groupthink" is a ridiculous course of action imo. 

5 minutes ago, noodlelymph said:

Given the events of today and actions towards pro-Palestine users here (and lack thereof towards the most egregious Zionist users as mentioned earlier in this thread) evidently we don't have that…. And given that liberal users get mad everytime their views are challenged (I saw it nonstop on the election thread the past week when the potential Harris 2028 run discourse was brought up) it seems that it's a certain group of people who *actually* want an echo chamber. "Trump bad, GOP bad" like that holds any meaning on a site where the overwhelming majority of the site already agreed with that… 

There are users in this group that we're all fed up with who literally refused to criticize Donald Trump's Zionist agenda when it was pointed out to them during the last election cycle, while continuing to barrage the forum with Kamala Harris hate. Some people genuinely do weaponize good causes to cause harm.

 

You are aligning yourself with alt-right trolls hiding behind buzzwords and regurgitated Hasan Piker comments.

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