so when are we getting Gnarly (Trisha Paytas' version)?

 

All I imply was Ariana is a better song than Gnarly and that weird Wendy stan decided to post their performances. Like who is the one comparing their skill right now?  

5 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Thank you for speaking up, cause this is the type of stuff I have to deal with constantly in here from that user, and then he tries to gaslight me into thinking I'm the actual problem, when i'm just responding. Some of these people have zero self-awareness I swear 

Now stream this for me bestie

 

we need to show SM that this is the 5th gen bg that they need to focus on

 

1 hour ago, Ubermensch said:

Do I troll the 3 remaining Jaws fans? Yes. Have I ever called @Zack a "demonic person" or "the antichrist" as you have seriously done to others with zero punishment? No. I have called their views on a single subject nonsensical and contrary to the written statements from all parties and cheekily used terms like J-Anon in reference to it. The butt of the joke is almost always on the libel publishing chanteuse. We have had excessively heated arguments before but I don't just @ him to call him stupid like you do to others.

 

What I have done though on more than one occasion, however, is DM users to apologize(including yourself) when I think I did cross a personal line or to even try to diffuse situations that don't involve me where I see miscommunication turn nasty.

Since you have directly @'d me and I don't agree with how you have represented your actions...

 

I do have to say I have felt extremely uncomfortable about the way you have spoken about Jessica for some time now, and even when being challenged on this you continue to double down on it and post frankly disgusting things about her, which go well beyond what I would call a "joke". 

 

The last straw was when you downvoted my posts about her cancer charity work, refused to acknowledge that your actions were insensitive and since then I have avoided engaging with you, as your replies tend to cross over into a scary place quite easily. You also went on a campaign of excessively downvoting anything I posted about her. This has continued even recently, despite me just making standalone posts which are inoffensive in every way possible (such as about her recent sold out event). 

 

It has gotten to a stage where I have felt uncomfortable posting updates about Jessica, due to the unprovoked downvotes or attacks on her, which no one should be experiencing. 

 

Previously you have also called her a "plastic monster" and posted other excessively hateful and repetitive messages about her, attacking her looks, making false accusations of criminal activity and even stating that "no one deserves to be blacklisted except Jessica". It goes way beyond a little kii kii or haha or surface level shade and seems like you have some very personal unhealthy issue with her specifically. It is scary and not constructive or enjoyable to read. 

 

In the past, I've considered @'ing @Ryan to perhaps give a reminder or some guidelines on how we should be speaking about idols in this thread (and this is not just limited to you, as there are other culprits), to maintain a comfortable and safe level of discussion for everyone involved, but in any case, chose just to disengage, as I think others should do when they feel uncomfortable. 

 

Edited May 1, 20251 yr by Zack

Also why is riize doing a squatter concept, seems kind of problematic 

I'm sorry I don't feel like being the bigger person today  @Pluto6 you are absolutely right, I have never seen you attack someone unwarranted 

 

On 4/29/2025 at 3:52 PM, Ubermensch said:

I would warn you about this user and tell you to hide this post but we can't do that anymore. Good luck, sis  

@Ubermensch on the other hand, you know so much more about inserting yourself somewhere you are not wanted sdjfhskdf

 

 

The only time I've seen Pluto lash someone even in discord is when I directly tag them to be messy when someone is coming for skz or stays…

 

3 minutes ago, JO1s said:

The only time I've seen Pluto lash someone even in discord is when I directly tag them to be messy when someone is coming for skz or stays…

 

So you guys have a discord... My invite must have been lost...

 

 

 

The gnarly perfomance was absolutely amazing! The girls ATE! The song is garbage but who cares when u have them on stage doing THAT!

Edited May 1, 20251 yr by sunny

15 minutes ago, Zack said:

It has gotten to a stage where I have felt uncomfortable posting updates about Jessica, due to the unprovoked downvotes or attacks on her, which no one should be experiencing. 

Honestly, it's sad that you feel this way, since no one should feel like this, when you should be allowed to post your faves as much as you want, just like how I do with SKZ.

 

Like I also started to feel bad for you, and had to defend Jessica sometimes.

 

Me and you might shade each other, sometimes, but we never actually take it too far, since you mostly just mind your business etc.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 1, 20251 yr by Pluto6

I mean, I think miss @Pluto6 can be a bit messy at times and he definitely knows how to use the downfall/scandals/floppage of other groups to hype up SKZ and sometimes start fanwars (but he is not the only one doing it even when it gets tiring everytime SOMEONE does it) and at the same time, I can't blame him to be defensive sometimes when some users seems to have a very personal crusade against him.

 

Anyway, Gnarly is definitely a grower HIT.

 

Edited May 1, 20251 yr by Darkling

1 hour ago, TheCal said:

I mean, Eternium said that Pluto had shitty takes and Pluto bit back by quoting some of their "shitty takes" from a few hours ago.

 

Did you not insert yourself into it with this reply below? There was no need to do that, right? That was between Eternium and Pluto. Not you. Eternium is their own person. Sorry but in this case it was you stirring ****, gaslighting. (And pinging @Ryan for such a dumb stuff is crazy)

 

1 hour ago, Pluto6 said:

I didn't quote your posts, though? I was responding to Eternium, who claimed that I have bad takes. So I replied by pointing out that he's the one with the questionable takes, using examples from his own posts. It had nothing to do with you or anyone else.

First of all I tag @Ryan when this happens because Pluto has been warned to stop doing exactly this like 500 times and just doesn't and never gets the threadbans that others do, and since we aren't supposed to report posts in this thread, tagging @Ryan is what we're supposed to do.

 

With that out of the way, we're getting away from facts here, which isn't shocking since every accusation from Pluto and his sidekicks is actually an admission and the word gaslighting has been said no less than 3 times already:

9 hours ago, Eternium said:

 

I drag you all the time when you have a shitty take. So it's only right to praise you when you have a good take. This is a good take.

Was this possibly a little backhanded? Yes. It was also just... trying to be balanced? I can dig up the dozens of posts where @Pluto6 literally begs @Eternium to engage in fanwars with them and continues to deny basic facts and statistics to keep it going, openly admitting to trolling. They aren't hard to find, just like the posts where @Pluto6 flings ridiculous insults at other Sones aren't hard to find now that hiding posts is no longer an option. Just last week he tried to misconstrue something I said as personally attacking @JO1s to stir ****. He's a **** stirrer, and he is always willing to openly admit to it until things get serious. If anybody seriously doubts this, I can waste my time digging up the receipts. Let me know

 

 

What really happened here is that unrelated to his conversation with @Pluto6, @Eternium made a post in response to me that was unpopular enough for several users to disagree.

8 hours ago, SchmoodRing said:

I agree about what you said about Stray Kids but to say BabyMonster, LSF and NJ are bigger than BP is factually false. Also NMIXX bigger than Twice? Anyeon!

 

8 hours ago, Witnessed ET said:

I think they meant all of them combined are bigger than BP or Twice? 

 

@Pluto6 then seized this as an opportunity to lash out at somebody and call them "known as the ATRL user with this most absurd takes", a format of insult that they frequently use against users in this thread whenever they think they can get away with it. This **** creates an extremely hostile environment and he does it constantly. There is a MASSIVE difference between "I drag you when X" and "You are the worst X on ATRL".

2 hours ago, Pluto6 said:

Claiming I have "shitty takes", when you're literally known as the ATRL user with this most absurd takes 

Here are few examples of your absurd takes just a few moments later: 

 

 

 

Like be serious

 

I took offense at this because it was specifically taking comments addressed to me(a user he's obsessed with), out of context to insult another. He constantly gets away with just randomly coming for people, he has gone as far as to take it out of the kpop base before so I know for a FACT from the report cleared emails that he is openly allowed to call people "demonic", "the worst user on ATRL", etc. When I see ****, I speak on ****. I'll do it to my oomfs and to weirdly obsessive trolls alike, it's really not that deep.

 

2 hours ago, Ubermensch said:

Even when they're wrong there's some truth to it that people don't want to acknowledge and differing perspectives that are backed up by actual statistics instead of kpop reddit dogma are actually extremely valuable. Can't say the same about your blatant trolling. You have this nasty habit of trying to call literally any of the SM sheep who don't just ignore you the worst __ in the base every couple of weeks. It's absolutely nasty and I still don't know how you're allowed to post here after the things you have said to @Odette Violet without ever apologizing to my knowledge.

Notice how this is once again, taking issues with specific behaviors instead of just blanket insulting users when I think numbers are on my side.

Edited May 1, 20251 yr by Ubermensch

Gnarly is so stupid and ridiculous but somehow the girls pulled it off with their talent and skills.

 

But I'm still not going to stream it. 

Me seeing all of these people coming to my defense, when I *almost* believed that I was the most hated user in here according to that user

 

22 minutes ago, Zack said:

Since you have directly @'d me and I don't agree with how you have represented your actions...

 

I do have to say I have felt extremely uncomfortable about the way you have spoken about Jessica for some time now, and even when being challenged on this you continue to double down on it and post frankly disgusting things about her, which go well beyond what I would call a "joke". 

 

The last straw was when you downvoted my posts about her cancer charity work, refused to acknowledge that your actions were insensitive and since then I have avoided engaging with you, as your replies tend to cross over into a scary place quite easily. You also went on a campaign of excessively downvoting anything I posted about her. This has continued even recently, despite me just making standalone posts which are inoffensive in every way possible (such as about her recent sold out event). 

 

It has gotten to a stage where I have felt uncomfortable posting updates about Jessica, due to the unprovoked downvotes or attacks on her, which no one should be experiencing. 

 

Previously you have also called her a "plastic monster" and posted other excessively hateful and repetitive messages about her, attacking her looks, making false accusations of criminal activity and even stating that "no one deserves to be blacklisted except Jessica". It goes way beyond a little kii kii or haha or surface level shade and seems like you have some very personal unhealthy issue with her specifically. It is scary and not constructive or enjoyable to read. 

 

In the past, I've considered @'ing @Ryan to perhaps give a reminder or some guidelines on how we should be speaking about idols in this thread (and this is not just limited to you, as there are other culprits), to maintain a comfortable and safe level of discussion for everyone involved, but in any case, chose just to disengage, as I think others should do when they feel uncomfortable. 

 

You literally go through my profile to look for posts to downvote and will dig through months of my posts in a batch to find any joke about the disgraced ex-member of my favorite group. You earned every downvote I ever gave you by downvoting a much larger quantity of my own posts, including ones where I just factually report on things Jessica has done.

 

You are also literally corroborating what I said, which is that of the comments that could be construed as crossing the line which I have made to you, they were about Jessica and not yourself. Quotes like "plastic monster" came from a different era of this thread where nicknames like that were being thrown around on all sides and to every fandom, this thread used to be much more toxic and I matched the energy. 

 

I do genuinely believe that Jessica deserved her blacklisting for constantly breeching contracts and lying about her peers though. Companies should have a right to not work with somebody who engages in such behaviors, Jaejoong has been allowed back on TV in recent years and Jessica is still pretty much MIA to my knowledge. 

Edited May 1, 20251 yr by Ubermensch

I dont have an issue with any of the 2 BUT i am going to defend Pluto in this one because this thread has a pattern of ganging on users who stan unpopular artists (here) and when the said users defend themselves then the group switch the narrative and try to paid the user as annoying, aggressive etc.

 

If u dont want to hear that SKZ are more suuccesfull than your faves then stop claiming that your faves are more cause they are not! No wonder he is going to reply when u always downplay his group's achievements

 

 

Edited May 1, 20251 yr by sunny

10 minutes ago, sunny said:

So you guys have a discord... My invite must have been lost...

 

 

 

The gnarly perfomance was absolutely amazing! The girls ATE! The song is garbage but who cares when u have them on stage doing THAT!

Yes, they have a discord that they openly admit to using to coordinate attacks like this against users of this base, including almost every user who has had a statement supporting Pluto ready to go. 

Just now, Ubermensch said:

Yes, they have a discord that they openly admit to using to coordinate attacks like this against users of this base, including almost every user who has had a statement supporting Pluto ready to go. 

this fanfaction

Ya'll doing too much on Miss Pluto. Yeah sometimes his posts especially with random records achievement for SKZ annoyed me but he was never intent to be malicious unlike that LSRFM/Sakura vile hater

 

I want that level of Pluto's payola for my fave. Can you stan IZNA sis @Pluto6

1 minute ago, Pluto6 said:

this fanfaction

this proven fact

@Pluto6 … Gnarly 

@Zack … Gnarly

@Ubermensch … Gnarly

 

Taki Takis 

3 minutes ago, Ubermensch said:

Yes, they have a discord that they openly admit to using to coordinate attacks like this against users of this base, including almost every user who has had a statement supporting Pluto ready to go. 

Things that didn't happen for $1000

Oh lord not this again…

 

 

i have my two cents to give but I really don't have the energy to get into this right now so let me just keep quiet. 

Edited May 1, 20251 yr by Witnessed ET

Someone make a "Did you switch on Gnarly?" thread and post the mcountdown performance 

I don't know if I'm included in that discord but how can that discord exist when none of us support the same groups, have crossed words in ATRL more than 3 times nor have personal quarrels with anyone in here