Panorama is technically the best kpop album of all time if you think about it

5 hours ago, Pluto6 said:

I feel bad for Hyo, because you can tell she feels like she was robbed of the spotlight by SM, and this is not the first time she brings it up. Hyo was truly so underutilized in SNSD, it's crazy. In many SNSD songs, her presence is so minimal that you could remove her entirely and it would barely be noticeable.

This is why it's important for fans to speak up against unfair treatment - whether it's line distribution, screen time etc. I hate when some fans try to silence other fans with those concerns by acting as if idols themselves want fewer lines or less exposure. No one becomes an idol just to get 5 seconds of lines and screen time - let's be real. They all want the spotlight.

I do think they could have gave her more lines, but the thing is that SNSD has 2 main vocalists and 3 lead vocalists.

Is kinda understandable if the producers want to give more priority to the vocal line. And giving parts to 9-8 members is gonna be quite hard when you have to think about the vocal line first.

I need these queens to give us another serve like this

Does anyone remember Ichillin?

3 hours ago, Bewitched said:

Miss them so much

2 hours ago, lander said:

Added the first 2 i saw fromis from previous page, thank you.

Here's another one.

4 hours ago, Bewitched said:

"Miniskirt" is chartting again, wyd!

(The multi quoting posts from different pages does something now )

Learned some brand new information today

5 hours ago, lander said:

Can anyone recommend any good new releases by GGs from Nov to now

In addition to RESCENE's entire mini, I recommend these:

8 hours ago, TheCal said:

exactly

this is such an accurate observation. HYBE tried to copy NJ with ILLIT, but they took out all of the sophistication and made their sound a bit too saccharine and childish.

23 minutes ago, Rino said:

this is such an accurate observation. HYBE tried to copy NJ with ILLIT, but they took out all of the sophistication and made their sound a bit too saccharine and childish.

So what you're saying is ILLIT has a different sound and concept from NewJeans I agree

Oh I came to post the NYT article and people are alread

6 hours ago, geniecantstophypeboy said:

Full article: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/25/arts/music/k-pop-newjeans-katseye-kpop-demon-hunters.html

"In 2025, K-Pop Battled Its Demons

The genre peaked in terms of global awareness with "KPop Demon Hunters," while the industry's most promising new act was mired in a legal morass."

Newjeans, IRL Kpop Demon Hunters, fighting the evil Hybe confirmed.

Small dig at Hybe en passant.

Red Velvet mentioned in 2025.

Welp! Once again millions of dollars wasted on Tag PR, to do nothing but land them in the top 5 of Gallup on an inactive year, while their inactive GG's are nowhere to be found, and to turn part of their GG fanbases into a loud bunch of incels and nasty stalkers that only have traction on reddit and incel spaces, and NOWHERE else!

like how is ur group gonna be washed after their first year yet ur comparing them to legends who they can't even outsell/outstream while inactive 😭😭😭

Edited December 26, 2025Dec 26 by Cyanide

6 minutes ago, Butters said:

So what you're saying is ILLIT has a different sound and concept from NewJeans I agree

38 minutes ago, Rino said:

HYBE tried to copy NJ with ILLIT

do you get paid for defending HYBE? you are so weird

44 minutes ago, Rino said:

do you get paid for defending HYBE? you are so weird

You said HYBE made ILLIT's sound too saccharine and childish to be a NewJeans copy... did you ever think that maybe that was the intention from the start? How is ILLIT a copy (to the extent that this thread constantly drags them for) if they were established with distinguishing qualities from NewJeans? I'd just like to understand the Tokki perspective on this.

1 hour ago, Cyanide said:

like how is ur group gonna be washed after their first year yet ur comparing them to legends who they can't even outsell/outstream while inactive 😭😭😭

literally who is doing this. 80% of the time ILLIT is mentioned here its them getting dragged in the quotes of NewJeans accomplishments 😭😭😭

Hip-hip (Hooray)
Hip-hip (Hooray)
Hip-hip, hip-hip
Karma, karma, karma, karma

*beat drops*

Ceremony
Hip, hip, hip, hip, hip, hip, hip (Hooray)
Woah, ceremony
Hip, hip, hip, hip, hip, hip, hip (Hooray)

the way Pig PD and co. will NEVER be able to recreate this flavor of K-pop excellence

1 hour ago, Butters said:

literally who is doing this. 80% of the time ILLIT is mentioned here its them getting dragged in the quotes of NewJeans accomplishments 😭😭😭

Literally a significant chunk of both fanbases, but ok let's keep playing blind and dumb! Xx

It doesn't even matter because they've already had almost 2 years to catch up and can't so

Fire the coordi ffs lookin' a damn mess

No GG wanted to release an end of the year smasha like Psycho or Ditto this year? Sigh...

6 hours ago, Bewitched said:

Please go to New Jeans!

5 hours ago, Butters said:

So what you're saying is ILLIT has a different sound and concept from NewJeans I agree

No, only that Hybe sucks at copying.

1 hour ago, Vision said:

No GG wanted to release an end of the year smasha like Psycho or Ditto this year? Sigh...

BP was supposed to drop an album in November I think that scared everyone

I thought the industry knew by now that when yg announce something for BP you have to add 4/6 months