15 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

I wasn't the one who started this whole "they did this without strictly pandering to the west with their music" ragebait here so miss me with your dramatics  

 

you can praise twice all you want here no one gives a **** but acting like you didnt start sh*t unprovoked is just

 

 

Where did I start **** unprovoked?  I can't even praise my faves with a fact without y'all randomly getting offended now? How is that my problem?   If you think that's "ragebait" then that's just your perspective. 
 

and yeah as I've now mentioned multiple times, yes they have released English singles and performed in western shows, but my main point was that they did it without losing their core kpop "essence" as Twice and without anyone expecting them to be as big as they are now among the western audience as a 9-membered group to the point that they're selling out stadiums in the US. Even their so called English singles have the quintessential kpop elements to the T. The people who got my point got it, the ones who didn't get it got offended for no reason and started quoting me and writing essays. That's all. 

Edited August 17, 20251 yr by Witnessed ET

2 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

Where did I start **** unprovoked?  I can't even praise my faves with a fact without y'all randomly getting offended now? How is that my problem?   If you think that's "ragebait" then that's just your perspective. 
 

and yeah as I've now mentioned multiple times, yes they have released English singles and performed in western shows, but my main point was that they did it without losing their core kpop "essence" as Twice as a 9-membered group and without anyone expecting them to be as big as they are now among the western audience to the point that they're selling out stadiums in the US. Even their so called English singles have the quintessential kpop elements to the T. The people who got my point got it, the ones who didn't get it got offended for no reason and started quoting me and writing essays. That's all. 

 you wanna throw shade to other groups here atleast own up to it for once and stop acting like a victim and everyone here is ganging up on twice unprovoked jesus  

 

now my question is, which group specifically are you trying to shade cause based on this list below, no other kpop girl group has ever pandered to the west like twice ever did  

 

 

 

2020

I Cant Stop Me

I Cant Stop Me ft. Boys Like Girls

Cry For Me

More & More

 

2021 

Alcohol Free

The Feels

Moonlight

Icon

Candy

 

2022

Queen of Hearts

 

2023

Set Me Free

Moonlight Sunrise

 

2024

I Got You

One Spark

You Get Me

Identity

Mamushi ft. Megan Thee Stallion

Strategy ft. Megan Thee Stallion

 

2025

This Is For

Battitude

Dat Ahh Dat Ooh

Let Love Go

Talk

We Pray ft. Coldplay

superstars ft. Saweetie

 

 

these are all the english songs, western features in the past 5 years. 11 songs alone are title tracks

 

TWICE has to be the girl group with most attempts at western success/pandering - more than any kpop girl group EVER - but since none of them worked and all tanked their delusional stans love acting like they've been so successful without "pandering to the west with their music" slflsflslfsjjfskkaskk help me

 

 

 

1 minute ago, MonsterNavy said:

 you wanna throw shade to other groups here atleast own up to it for once and stop acting like a victim and everyone here is ganging up on twice unprovoked jesus  

 

now my question is, which group specifically are you trying to shade cause based on this list below, no other kpop girl group has ever pandered to the west like twice ever did  

 

 

 

2020

I Cant Stop Me

I Cant Stop Me ft. Boys Like Girls

Cry For Me

More & More

 

2021 

Alcohol Free

The Feels

Moonlight

Icon

Candy

 

2022

Queen of Hearts

 

2023

Set Me Free

Moonlight Sunrise

 

2024

I Got You

One Spark

You Get Me

Identity

Mamushi ft. Megan Thee Stallion

Strategy ft. Megan Thee Stallion

 

2025

This Is For

Battitude

Dat Ahh Dat Ooh

Let Love Go

Talk

We Pray ft. Coldplay

superstars ft. Saweetie

 

 

these are all the english songs, western features in the past 5 years. 11 songs alone are title tracks

 

TWICE has to be the girl group with most attempts at western success/pandering - more than any kpop girl group EVER - but since none of them worked and all tanked their delusional stans love acting like they've been so successful without "pandering to the west with their music" slflsflslfsjjfskkaskk help me

 

 

 

Are you thick in the head? Because I'm concerned at this point. What is going to convince you that not every post is "trying to shade a group specifically"?  
 

anyway you really lost the plot with this post of yours when you start listing out their discography and giving it your own definition of "pandering" without any logic or nuance behind it.

Also like half of those songs are literally in Korean 

Wait so the entire group is missing the show because of Manon? oh that's not
 

 

12 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

Are you thick in the head? Because I'm concerned at this point. What is going to convince you that not every post is "trying to shade a group specifically"?  
 

anyway you really lost the plot with this post of yours when you start listing out their discography and giving it your own definition of "pandering" without any logic or nuance behind it.

 

17 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

Also like half of those songs are literally in Korean 

not me giving my own definition of pandering without any logic or nuance behind it

 

there's literally no other reason why kpop acts release english songs and english versions of their songs but to pander to the west and hope for a quick lil billboard hot100 and uk chart hits  

 

you really honestly think twice releases these english songs and english versions for their korean and japanese stans?  

 

 

and not you making me look like a liar. every single song I listed are english songs or has an english version please be serious  

 

 

There's this meme among the half dozen or so hard core Fifty Fifty fans that Chanel Moon is so awesome, she already had an action figure.

 

 

Well, you can add Fifty Fifty's Yewon into the hall of the action figure worthy.

 

Spoiler

 

The power of the Pookie.

 

2 hours ago, Witnessed ET said:

Wait so the entire group is missing the show because of Manon? oh that's not
 

 

Almost, the tweet is about them all skipping Osaka due to two members feeling unwell which led to delays in their travel plans

They're still performing (already performed) in Tokyo but without Manon

 

 

2 hours ago, MonsterNavy said:

 

not me giving my own definition of pandering without any logic or nuance behind it

 

there's literally no other reason why kpop acts release english songs and english versions of their songs but to pander to the west and hope for a quick lil billboard hot100 and uk chart hits  

 

you really honestly think twice releases these english songs and english versions for their korean and japanese stans?  

 

 

and not you making me look like a liar. every single song I listed are english songs or has an english version please be serious  

 

 

I don't have to make you look like a liar. For you, "pandering" starts and ends with English songs or English versions. For me, my post was touching on things way beyond that and included a group's structure, image, background, core identity, fluency etc. And believe it or not, those things make a big difference in how much you can achieve success in the west, no matter how many English singles you pump out. I can also list long English discographies of many other kpop acts but that's way besides the point. That's it. 
 

 

Edited August 17, 20251 yr by Witnessed ET

1 hour ago, illia said:

Almost, the tweet is about them all skipping Osaka due to two members feeling unwell which led to delays in their travel plans

They're still performing (already performed) in Tokyo but without Manon

 

 

Hmm hope they get well soon. As much as I want these girls to have global domination, idk if the group is gonna last with all these constant injuries tbh. 

Edited August 17, 20251 yr by Witnessed ET

  

Rich Man spoiler!

 

 

And Supernova (Live Band ver.)

 

Edited August 17, 20251 yr by Zack

6 hours ago, Suilen said:

I wonder if anyone here would be interested in a comprehensive gen 1 solo rate that will of course include BoA and Lee Hyori, but also:

 

Lee Jung Hyun

Baek Ji Young

Park Ji Yoon

Kim Hyun Jung

Chae Yeon

Chae Jung Ahn

Jang Nara

Bada/Eugene

Shim Mina

Harisu

IVY

 

It won't be too many songs, and the number of songs an artist will get depends on how long her career is/was. If enough people want this, I could pitch the idea next month. And then the series might potentially continue with gen 2 soloists, gen 3 soloists etc.

Lee Jun hyun clear everyone with this avant garde masterpiece who changed the Korean clubbing culture

 

 

 

the only members we care about 

only beauty and talent allowed!

 

Baddie 2.0. Just nod and smile yall. 

6 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

 

Baddie 2.0. Just nod and smile yall. 

I am one of the few people who loved Baddie so I am here for it and specially because their next title is gonna be I am 3.0 

14 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

 

Baddie 2.0. Just nod and smile yall. 

starship wants IVE to flop so bad and they are going achieve it congrats

400k spotify debut and out of top 100 melon debut incoming

them wasting evil cupid concept for this  this era is full of complaint like it's actually hilarious 

SM still claiming Kris Wu and Tao as their artists  

 

give it up deelichis, it's been more than a decade

 

 

 

the way wonyoung never posted the concept pics or mentioned the title track despite having writing credits

she knows

kinda liked Mars from their most recent comeback but Jihyos voice kept irritating the hell out of me.

 

Is this how non Blinks feels listening to Jisus? 

I actually liked Baddie so I'm excited if the new song is in the same vein

 

we need XOXZ to be more like Ice Queen rather than baddie 

30 minutes ago, WeFoundWill said:

kinda liked Mars from their most recent comeback but Jihyos voice kept irritating the hell out of me.

 

Is this how non Blinks feels listening to Jisus? 

imagine comparing Jihyo's vocals to Jisoo's

 

TXT randomly dropping that they were beat as trainees at Big Hit

 

the company that BTS built, y'all